Organic vs. Synthetic (Cleaner High)

Bugeye · May 11, 2015

chuck estevez said:
I figured out he was comparing his outdoor grown to the indoor grown and thought the high was cleaner because of the organic soil, not because it was grown under the sun and not an hps bulb.

Yes, I was much more naive in my p. 1 days of this thread. More organic quality testing though and I'm doing fine now. :eyesmoke:

a mongo frog · May 11, 2015

st0wandgrow said:
Come on now Mongo. If you cant see that he's being a condescending douche bag then I'd love to puff on whatever you're smoking. I don't mind people disagreeing with me one bit. He's taking it way beyond that though.

Im only puffing on this. But i grew it with 5-3-10 plant food for roses and things. I guess its not organic. It did however test really high in THC though. In all honesty i think that guys passionate. He obviously knows his shit. Which i think is bothering some members. Only the high horse ones though. I love all you guys. Hope no one hates me.

Darth Vapour · May 11, 2015

what am i taking way beyond ??? seriously you guys are claiming that organics like LED produce a better quality product ??? for led side like most LED companies claiming there LED is better then 1000 watt HPS ???
Now i am sorry i do not believe in miracles , or myths i believe in real world stats..
What i am a douche for posting 20 - 30 day clone pictures and ask lets see organic same time frame pictures ???
truth is and you know deep down inside but to arrogant to admit it worried that you be ousted fomr your religious group hahaha
That infact Chemical grown plants would probably be 2 times bigger those are facts..
And deep down inside you hate the fact that i am right ..
If i wasn't then why the hell hasn't agriculture farmers done the flip to organics ??? I know why its not sustainable
yup even framers want max yields its money to keep them alive ..

st0wandgrow · May 11, 2015

a mongo frog said:
Im only puffing on this. But i grew it with 5-3-10 plant food for roses and things. I guess its not organic. It did however test really high in THC though. In all honesty i think that guys passionate. He obviously knows his shit. Which i think is bothering some members. Only the high horse ones though. I love all you guys. Hope no one hates me.

He has dropped nothing here beyond cut n paste articles that leads me to believe he knows anything.

Plus his spelling is at a third grade level. :dunce:

st0wandgrow · May 11, 2015

Darth Vapour said:
what am i taking way beyond ??? seriously you guys are claiming that organics like LED produce a better quality product ??? for led side like most LED companies claiming there LED is better then 1000 watt HPS ???
Now i am sorry i do not believe in miracles , or myths i believe in real world stats..
What i am a douche for posting 20 - 30 day clone pictures and ask lets see organic same time frame pictures ???
truth is and you know deep down inside but to arrogant to admit it worried that you be ousted fomr your religious group hahaha
That infact Chemical grown plants would probably be 2 times bigger those are facts..
And deep down inside you hate the fact that i am right ..
If i wasn't then why the hell hasn't agriculture farmers done the flip to organics ??? I know why its not sustainable
yup even framers want max yields its money to keep them alive ..

You're the only one talking yield here skippy. Read the title of the thread. Notice any mention of yield?

I know growing big plants makes you feel like a big boy, but try to stay on topic.

Darth Vapour · May 11, 2015

a mongo frog said:
Im only puffing on this. But i grew it with 5-3-10 plant food for roses and things. I guess its not organic. It did however test really high in THC though. In all honesty i think that guys passionate. He obviously knows his shit. Which i think is bothering some members. Only the high horse ones though. I love all you guys. Hope no one hates me.

Real nice Mongo nice and healthy plants thats the key keeping enough N to the end
Again years ago and after harvest n harvests i realized why in the hell would people flush there plants last 2 weeks when its the most crucial time (packing on weight ) or starve plants of N the key 10 years ago was keep it green as long as you can but in most cases organic and chem this was not the case 2 weeks in and yellowing ,
Uncle Buck had it right all along and some followed his concepts and others douched him to there beliefs

a mongo frog · May 11, 2015

Darth Vapour said:
Real nice Mongo nice and healthy plants thats the key keeping enough N to the end
Again years ago and after harvest n harvests i realized why in the hell would people flush there plants last 2 weeks when its the most crucial time (packing on weight ) or starve plants of N the key 10 years ago was keep it green as long as you can but in most cases organic and chem this was not the case 2 weeks in and yellowing ,
Uncle Buck had it right all along and some followed his concepts and others douched him to there beliefs

Yes, Uncle Ben. I don't lower my plant food at the end. No way. But i use a bottle of 5-3-10 so what would i know.

st0wandgrow · May 11, 2015

Darth Vapour said:
That infact Chemical grown plants would probably be 2 times bigger those are facts...

Bullshit. Break this gem down for me. Explain to me how nutrients from a bottle, which the plant takes up in the exact same chemical form as organically derived nutrients magically makes the plant two times bigger?? Unicorn urine?

Darth Vapour · May 11, 2015

st0wandgrow said:
You're the only one talking yield here skippy. Read the title of the thread. Notice any mention of yield?

I know growing big plants makes you feel like a big boy, but try to stay on topic.

First of all I believe organic vs chem Yields play a crucial role do not deny that ,, its part of the equation when you really break it down ..
I am also sorry that i have fat fingers and really do not give a fuck about punctuation again that is just me i am sure though i am getting the message across

Darth Vapour · May 11, 2015

st0wandgrow said:
Bullshit. Break this gem down for me. Explain to me how nutrients from a bottle, which the plant takes up in the exact same chemical form as organically derived nutrients magically makes the plant two times bigger?? Unicorn urine?

Again patiently waiting for them 20 - 30 day old organic grown plants lets compare bring your out seed or clone lets get it on

Simple chemical nutrients immediately available for plant uptake
Organic not needs to be broken down for plant up take what part do you not understand

KarmaPaymentPlan · May 11, 2015

SPLFreak808 said:
interesting. But one would need like 10 seeds from the exact same mother to compare 5 vs 5. Iv grown some seeds from the same mother that finished faster and more potent then the sisters right next to them in the exact same cab. Thats why i love seeds over clones. You always get surprises!

[/QUOTE]if you watch they take cuttings from the same mom

Darth Vapour · May 11, 2015

Darth Vapour said:
Again patiently waiting for them 20 - 30 day old organic grown plants lets compare bring your out seed or clone lets get it on

Simple chemical nutrients immediately available for plant uptake
Organic not needs to be broken down for plant up take what part do you not understand

yup

Bugeye · May 11, 2015

Darth Vapour said:
Again patiently waiting for them 20 - 30 day old organic grown plants lets compare bring your out seed or clone lets get it on

Simple chemical nutrients immediately available for plant uptake
Organic not needs to be broken down for plant up take what part do you not understand

Here's my organic girls 12 hours after germination:

ORGANICS RULE THE WASTELAND!!! bongsmilie

Mr.Head · May 11, 2015

If you're not comparing pictures of the same or a strain with at least similar growth characteristics how can you take anything away from 20-30 day pictures?

I don't even think this guy grows.

a mongo frog · May 11, 2015

Mr.Head said:
If you're not comparing pictures of the same or a strain with at least similar growth characteristics how can you take anything away from 20-30 day pictures?

I don't even think this guy grows.

Your just starting stuff now. You guys know he grows. Organically too. Theres a chance you have some of his plants at your home. No bull shit.

st0wandgrow · May 11, 2015

Darth Vapour said:
Again patiently waiting for them 20 - 30 day old organic grown plants lets compare bring your out seed or clone lets get it on

Simple chemical nutrients immediately available for plant uptake
Organic not needs to be broken down for plant up take what part do you not understand

Ok, so this post right here just proves that you don't know your ass from a balloon knot.

Comparing plants from 2 different gardens, in two different environments will prove what? Don't you think that temperatures, light sources, CO2 levels, etc will effect growth?? How do you expect to have a decent comparison given all of the variables?

Also, anyone that knows the first thing about organics realizes that you let your soil sit so that mineralization occurs and there is plant ready nutrients when you plug a clone in to your medium. You don't put a plant right in to fresh made organic soil. Maybe that's why your organic grows sucked so bad?

My god, are you 12?

KarmaPaymentPlan · May 11, 2015

a mongo frog said:
Your just starting stuff now. You guys know he grows. Organically too. Theres a chance you have some of his plants at your home. No bull shit.

yeah but his attitude sucks he didn't read anything the led crowd gave him either he refuses to learn or by open to new stuff he'll just watch crappy youtube videos that aren't relevant then argue the same shit again

KarmaPaymentPlan · May 11, 2015

st0wandgrow said:
Ok, so this post right here just proves that you don't know your ass from a balloon knot.

Comparing plants from 2 different gardens, in two different environments will prove what? Don't you think that temperatures, light sources, CO2 levels, etc will effect growth?? How do you expect to have a decent comparison given all of the variables?

Also, anyone that knows the first thing about organics realizes that you let your soil sit so that mineralization occurs and there is plant ready nutrients when you plug a clone in to your medium. You don't put a plant right in to fresh made organic soil. Maybe that's why your organic grows sucked so bad?

My god, are you 12?

12 or not he's proven that's to complicated of a concept for himself

Mr.Head · May 11, 2015

a mongo frog said:
Your just starting stuff now. You guys know he grows. Organically too. Theres a chance you have some of his plants at your home. No bull shit.

I don't know shit about this guy. He signed up last week, is he some sort of canna celebrity? you know him from another forum? Or has he been banned here before?

I doubt I have his genetics in my garden. Regardless of whether the guy is the best breeder in the world or Hazeygrapes he acts like a child, a child that knows everything without reading anything.

Mr.Head · May 11, 2015

a mongo frog said:
Im only puffing on this. But i grew it with 5-3-10 plant food for roses and things. I guess its not organic. It did however test really high in THC though. In all honesty i think that guys passionate. He obviously knows his shit. Which i think is bothering some members. Only the high horse ones though. I love all you guys. Hope no one hates me.

That looks delicious by the way well done.

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