Organic vs. Synthetic (Cleaner High)

SPLFreak808 · May 11, 2015

st0wandgrow said:
I can't speak to that. Personally I don't notice much difference in the high. The measuring stick that I use is the plants health. I have never grown healthier plants than I am right now.

I think you can have the cleanest weed around. Too much and the clean high goes out the window. I would imagine your average organic bud is not as strong as synthetic.

a mongo frog · May 11, 2015

SPLFreak808 said:
How the fuck is everyone's organic harvest taste no different from synthetic harvest? You all must have some crazy skill to make organic bud taste and yield the same as synthetic.

Not sure the question. However great enthusiasm, I'm excited. I just didn't get the question. Sorry.

st0wandgrow · May 11, 2015

SPLFreak808 said:
I think you can have the cleanest weed around. Too much and the clean high goes out the window. I would imagine your average organic bud is not as strong as synthetic.

SPLFreak808 said:
How the fuck is everyone's organic harvest taste no different from synthetic harvest? You all must have some crazy skill to make organic bud taste and yield the same as synthetic.

I'm growing a plant in a DWC bucket right now. The growth is insane, and the yield is going to be huge. This is a function of all of the oxygen in the root zone, and not the fact that the nutrients are inorganic.

As for the strength of the weed, there is definitely no drop of with organics. None that I've noticed anyway.

a mongo frog · May 11, 2015

SPLFreak808 said:
I think you can have the cleanest weed around. Too much and the clean high goes out the window. I would imagine your average organic bud is not as strong as synthetic.

Are the organic guys having their cannabis tested on their own?

Darth Vapour · May 11, 2015

greasemonkeymann said:
waaaay too much potassium man...
that explains it all.
Duh..

I am curious whats your thoughts begining of this year i started some test grows from some reputable breeders with new strains coming to market shorty from testers results i
when walking through our front store room deciding on what i should use for nutes this time around i figured i give this a shot Miracid 30 - 10 - 10 designed for acid soils which MJ appear to love ...
Here are some seedling shots following the manufacturers instruction one of the spoon provided ,, 1 small spoon mix = had a ppm of 380 by 4th week under 48 watts of T5'ho's , I increased to 760 ppm doubled it up ..
anyways looks like this product kicks ass no issues only good healthy growth and 5th week remember from seed and the important number 48 watts @ picture 850 there 4 weeks old and starting to show sex transplanting them into 25 gallon barrels

Sexed and clones are taken already bumped to 96 watts
Last 2 pictures ending week 5 from seeds where i am using 96 watts of sunblaster T5 Ho's with this product

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Miracle-Gro-Water-Soluble-Miracid-Acid-Loving-Dry-Plant-Food-1LB-ACID-LOVE-PLANT/38473454

Darth Vapour · May 11, 2015

I forgot to mention the Miracid is scotts or as some may know it as MG lol
And by golly it grows it surely must be a miracle

Bugeye · May 11, 2015

a mongo frog said:
Are the organic guys having their cannabis tested on their own?

I just tested some a few minutes ago. It works! :bigjoint:

SPLFreak808 · May 11, 2015

a mongo frog said:
Are the organic guys having their cannabis tested on their own?

Actually idk. Im not quite sure. And this would be a good test. Im gonna say this though, while yes i am 11 months new to organics, so far my organic buds weigh much less than my synthetic buds. I guess the real test would be to cut off the exact weight if both and send it in. My guess is the bigger organic bud of the same weight has more plant matter. Which changes taste and high.

a mongo frog · May 11, 2015

Bugeye said:
I just tested some a few minutes ago. It works!

So your not? Just a smart ass remark to put another member down. Thanks a lot. Really nice way to hurt my feelings.

Bugeye · May 11, 2015

a mongo frog said:
So your not? Just a smart ass remark to put another member down. Thanks a lot. Really nice way to hurt my feelings.

I've got you pegged as tougher than that! I do my testing the old fashioned way, just a lighter and a pipe.

I actually am curious if THC levels test as high for organic as synthetic, in a controlled test environment.

Darth Vapour · May 11, 2015

SPLFreak808 said:
Actually idk. Im not quite sure. And this would be a good test. Im gonna say this though, while yes i am 11 months new to organics, so far my organic buds weigh much less than my synthetic buds. I guess the real test would be to cut off the exact weight if both and send it in. My guess is the bigger organic bud of the same weight has more plant matter. Which changes taste and high.

SPL i respect you for speaking unbiased and truthfully if tests after tests have been performed by unbias scientists testing all aspects potency i honestly think many peoples eyes would open up
Cause last time i looked in any book NPK Is NPK a chemical a plant cannot tell the difference

st0wandgrow · May 11, 2015

SPLFreak808 said:
Actually idk. Im not quite sure. And this would be a good test. Im gonna say this though, while yes i am 11 months new to organics, so far my organic buds weigh much less than my synthetic buds. I guess the real test would be to cut off the exact weight if both and send it in. My guess is the bigger organic bud of the same weight has more plant matter. Which changes taste and high.

This is an aeration issue. I went through the same thing myself recently on the 3'rd round of recycled soil. Bagged soil uses very little compost/vermicompost which is very heavy, and can starve roots of oxygen when compared to the soils we are building.

Make sure to add 1/3 aeration bits to your base, and use stuff like pumice, perlite, lava rock, etc that won't degrade over time. To me this is one of the biggest challenges for someone making their own soil..... oxygen to the root zone.

SPLFreak808 · May 11, 2015

st0wandgrow said:
This is an aeration issue. I went through the same thing myself recently on the 3'rd round of recycled soil. Bagged soil uses very little compost/vermicompost which is very heavy, and can starve roots of oxygen when compared to the soils we are building.

Make sure to add 1/3 aeration bits to your base, and use stuff like pumice, perlite, lava rock, etc that won't degrade over time. To me this is one of the biggest challenges for someone making their own soil..... oxygen to the root zone.

I have to mention, i have more than 1/3 perlite in all flowering pots and visible white roots. I water slowly so soil doesnt get as compacted and so perlite wont float upwards over time. I dont use normal bag soil. I have 7 different bags of soil/compost/perlite/flowering compost ect that are mixed differently at all stages of transplanting. I know what you mean though. And it is possible that my environment has a huge impact on organic soil.

SPLFreak808 · May 11, 2015

Darth Vapour said:
SPL i respect you for speaking unbiased and truthfully if tests after tests have been performed by unbias scientists testing all aspects potency i honestly think many peoples eyes would open up
Cause last time i looked in any book NPK Is NPK a chemical a plant cannot tell the difference

Thank you bro, i still consider myself slight biased towards organics but its only because i do notice something different. I am here to learn not teach, certain subjects have never been thoroughly tested because the damn plant started illegal, so untill then everything i say or read about things that have never been tested is and will remain a theory regardless if i notice a diff or not. Thats just nature of human error, manning up to it will make one smater.

Chester da Horse · May 11, 2015

what if the earth itself had a life-force that was shared by all life on it and the chi/natural harmony/fundamental FORCE came from little midichlorians in every living cell??

then wouldn't the organic weed draw strength from the universe and open psychoactive channels and corridors through chemicals it shares with us at death allowing us to transcend the dimensional constraints around us?

thats what i think. organic FTW.

KarmaPaymentPlan · May 11, 2015

I know GHS isn't the greatest seeds but they did several videos running a hydro plant against the same plant in soil with nothing but water added and the "organic" would come out with more terps and cannabinoids

a mongo frog · May 11, 2015

KarmaPaymentPlan said:
I know GHS isn't the greatest seeds but they did several videos running a hydro plant against the same plant in soil with nothing but water added and the "organic" would come out with more terps and cannabinoids

So now we're saying organic smells better then lets say the the 5-3-10 npk plant food that some gardeners use? Is the THC lower or the same? Id be guessing THC may be the same if the same gardener grew the same strain both ways.

SPLFreak808 · May 11, 2015

KarmaPaymentPlan said:
I know GHS isn't the greatest seeds but they did several videos running a hydro plant against the same plant in soil with nothing but water added and the "organic" would come out with more terps and cannabinoids

interesting. But one would need like 10 seeds from the exact same mother to compare 5 vs 5. Iv grown some seeds from the same mother that finished faster and more potent then the sisters right next to them in the exact same cab. Thats why i love seeds over clones. You always get surprises![/QUOTE]

Chester da Horse · May 11, 2015

a mongo frog said:
Is the THC lower or the same? Id be guessing THC may be the same if the same gardener grew the same strain both ways.

its more than just the THC guys, its the midichlorians. there are more in cow shit than in the nutrient bottles

a mongo frog · May 11, 2015

Chester da Horse said:
its more than just the THC guys, its the midichlorians. there are more in cow shit than in the nutrient bottles

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