Organized crime behind contraband tobacco costs governments billions

CalyxCrusher

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I wounder what the real cost is considering the tobacco costs are 90% tax?

I bet it works outs , to be about par .

I don’t like drinking , or being around people that are drunk, should we band that too?

I don’t smoke cigs (btw) just mix it with hash
Now n then .
And that tax money goes towards healthcare for people who get sick. Drinking in public is a finable offence, not banned. If people want to drink at home or the bar thats fine. Part of those taxes go to healthcare as well. Thats also what the exise tax on cannabis will go towards. You can't have it both ways with no regard for others in society. The taxes are the price to pay for socialized healthcare.
I don’t smoke cigs,
And don’t let people smoke in my rides or my house, but I won’t go into someone’s house n bitch them out for smoking, or preach to them about it. I have a choice to be there or to leave.
Most reasonable people wouldn't do that either

been on tobacco for 52 yrs...some folk are snowflakes...my doc was amazed at my chest x-rays and blood work...1.5 packs a day...15-24 beer a day for about 30 yrs...and cannabis for 45 yrs....yeah...you don't like 2nd hand smoke or beer...go live in a sphere.....lol...time to just accept folk do as they do...if not...hit the interwebs and bitch and moan...fukkin' snowflakes....my .02



mojo lives the way I like it...no one gets out alive anyways
Always an acception, it doesn't make it the rule. A 24 a day? Shiiiiiit no bueno
 

gb123

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don't call me sir...it doesn't fit..fukker fukker fits....but indeed we are all different...I used to ride in cars with no seat belts...lead based paint on my wagon...still tickin'...be cool gb...;))



mojo
sorry ya,,,, old fucker..
ya Better eh (:

ya we got tossed in the back of the ole wagon with 10 kids.. seat belts? :-?
drivin up north for the weeeknd in snow storms...

missing drunkin Indians or so we were told when the wagon would go slightly out of control doin 110 MPH ;) ..
those were the days :lol:
 

mojoganjaman

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And that tax money goes towards healthcare for people who get sick. Drinking in public is a finable offence, not banned. If people want to drink at home or the bar thats fine. Part of those taxes go to healthcare as well. Thats also what the exise tax on cannabis will go towards. You can't have it both ways with no regard for others in society. The taxes are the price to pay for socialized healthcare.

Most reasonable people wouldn't do that either


Always an acception, it doesn't make it the rule. A 24 a day? Shiiiiiit no bueno[/QUOTE]



ehh...ya wanna live forever...or ya wanna enjoy life...its a choice....;))




mojo
 

Lucky Luke

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I don’t smoke cigs,
And don’t let people smoke in my rides or my house, but I won’t go into someone’s house n bitch them out for smoking, or preach to them about it. I have a choice to be there or to leave.
That you do,,what about at the airport? At the park? Outside a pub (I'm guessing you cannot smoke in pubs?).

Do you like all those cig butts discarded on the pavements?

The tobacco business is in the business of addiction. Don't let them fool you into thinking its about choice.
 

mojoganjaman

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That you do,,what about at the airport? At the park? Outside a pub (I'm guessing you cannot smoke in pubs?).

Do you like all those cig butts discarded on the pavements?

The tobacco business is in the business of addiction. Don't let them fool you into thinking its about choice.


kinda like alcohol producers and big pharma????


mojo
 

BigHornBuds

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That you do,,what about at the airport? At the park? Outside a pub (I'm guessing you cannot smoke in pubs?).

Do you like all those cig butts discarded on the pavements?

The tobacco business is in the business of addiction. Don't let them fool you into thinking its about choice.

Once u walk into an airport in Canada , there is no where to smoke,
Some public parks are being labeled as smoke free, no smoking in pubs, no smoking inside anywhere, your not allowed to smoke in your own car if a minor is with you.

I live in my own little bubble , that not much gets to me , I don’t care about the butts on the ground, I don’t notice them, gum will piss me off tho. Try finding gum in Singapore , I dare you to spit it on the ground there.

Tobacco is all about the addiction ,
Ever smoke a natural tobacco cig? It’s nasty, it’s the chemicals everyone likes.
I was a smoker for yrs , then read a book n stopped. Now I’ll mix it with hash when I feel like a pure hash joint but I don’t remember the last cigarette I smoked .
It would cut into my bud smoking , probably smoke a pack of them a day .
 

Lucky Luke

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Yea, they all hang out side at the doors....Like they hang outside office buildings. Its still public areas.

I aslo don't remember the last cig I smoked and I dab my hash so no need for cigs.

I live on a small island, any litter gives me the shits. Walk past a pub on a Saturday or Sunday and the outside pavement is littered with butts as smoking inside is banned.

Congrats on staying off the evil bastard things
 

driel

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When I started with bud, my tobacco use went nearly all the way down. I still like a cigar for a special occasion but the desire/craving for it disappeared almost immediately.
 

mojoganjaman

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we are all different SIr.. .
in all regards.

smoking and drinking killed both my folks many years ago..
as well as Billions of others.
FACT


well...pick your poison..gb...I've been struggling for 30 yrs...first 10 were in denial....its a choice...I'll run this body into a cliff...but I'll live life as I want...life has been harder lately...and no "sir"...I'm a fkr fkr....lol



mojo
 

Farmer.J

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2nd hand smoke hurts others. Due to all cancers etc that tobacco causes it also hurts others in the hip pocket.

Not the same difference.
Is nicotine free tobacco free of causing cancer? Does nicotine cause cancer? Or does tobacco cause cancer? Or is it the nasty sprays that go on the tobacco?

I'm a fan of poison spray free tobacco instead.
 

Lucky Luke

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Is nicotine free tobacco free of causing cancer? Does nicotine cause cancer? Or does tobacco cause cancer? Or is it the nasty sprays that go on the tobacco?

I'm a fan of poison spray free tobacco instead.
Nicotine I believe is the addictive compound.
 

cannadan

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Is nicotine free tobacco free of causing cancer? Does nicotine cause cancer? Or does tobacco cause cancer? Or is it the nasty sprays that go on the tobacco?

I'm a fan of poison spray free tobacco instead.
does that exist.....unless you grow your own baccy
 

The Hippy

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The government wants it both ways...tax the living shit out of tobacco.......and nobody else can sell.
Well apparently the competition doesn't feel the same way.

Maybe if the gov didn't try to make all their money off one smoker, they'd sell more. If they tried to make a fair markup the price might actually be more fair. People would buy it if it wasn't so far apart from the native brands.
 
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