PioneerValleyOG
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Hmmm, I thought they looked milky to me. Do you think the stems as well as the heads should be cloudy as well? Or mostly the heads?
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PioneerValleyOG
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I live in the sticks, my property is completely surrounded by woods, trees, and fauna. Just keeping my pool area clear is a major process. The amount of work you're talking about sans outdoor greenhouse net, [much appreciated!] Just isn't viable. Probably wouldn't dent slf population whatsoever. I'll stick to my Home Defense Max, the best effort I can make, and ill grab a couple cans of Raid. Maybe I'll invest in a blue bug zapper light. Knowing Massachusetts, they'll probably do fly overs with chemicals. At night. Slf has nothing on the caterpillar infestation at the Cape, it's insane. And gypsy moths seem to be making g a comeback as well.
Are slf indigenous? Or introduced? Probably those damn Asians! Asian bugs that is.
Thanks for all the intel. I'll keep you updated on population around here.
PioneerValleyOG
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Actually, there has only been a small outbreak reported in the Fitchburg area, otherwise Massachusetts remains slf free. Worcester County is taking it serious, and the state has asked ANY slf sighting be reported immediately, however, we haven't been infested yet. Not sure where you are, the Tree if Heaven IS an Asian Invasion, however, not much to worry about at all in Massachusetts.
Here's my research.
< https://www.ecolandscaping.org/10/landscape-challenges/pest-management/the-spotted-lanternfly-has-arrived-in-massachusetts/#:~:text=The MA Department of Agricultural,State officials confirmed these findings. >
Department of Agriculture seems to be on top of it. What area are you saying is completely infested by you? Sounds serious.
Teddymonster
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What are you using to view like this?
Sure, the plant itself needs a lot of water to keep it up and growing and 5gal buckets won't hold alot so you have the keep replacing what the plants use
Np, just something to think about, an outdoor green house will help you against the impending slf invasion and moths as well for the coming years. Slf's are foreign from china via a rock shipment in 2014 to Pennsylvania. Because they're foreign, there are no native hunters for the bug and are taking over. They're crafty, they stay on cars/trucks for 50+ miles and spread that way
I disagree with leaving one for bait, it will only attract more, which some of the slf will ignore and hop on the cannabis instead. Again, anecdotally, after removing every tree of heaven nearby, their numbers are way down. If you're a professional exterminator or have more experience on dealing with these, then I defer to your judgement, in which case I'd also like to know what systemic pesticides do you recommend. Not only for myself, but the thousands of future growers that will find these posts in the coming decade
DCcan
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I'm not going to go find the ag dept bulletin again, but it's one evolving strategy to control them.
Another effective one they are trying in PA is B.bassiana and PFR-97, which look promising as biological controls.
The idea to leave bait trees or plants is fairly common, they feed and lay eggs on their favorite food, concentrates them, rather than having to spray the entire neighborhood.
Usually, they spray the bait tree bark with a paste pesticide. It makes finding the egg masses easier for fall spraying also.
Permethrin based sprays are effective, very high mortality on the instar phase.
Spinosad, not so much, 55% mortality.
Applications of Beauveria bassiana (Hypocreales: Cordycipitaceae) to Control Populations of Spotted Lanternfly (Hemiptera: Fulgoridae), in Semi-Natural Landscapes and on Grapevines
Abstract. Spotted lanternfly, Lycorma delicatula (White), is an invasive Asian insect that was initially found in Berks County, Pennsylvania, in 2014. As o
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Spotted Lanternfly Management Guide
Publication providing comprehensive details on the spotted lanternfly, including identification and life cycle; quarantine and distribution; host range, phenology, and damage; and management.
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Crocket family farms BT7. This thing is an absolute beast. Had to bend some tops, I think she's gonna outgrow the greenhouse. She's flowering but still stretching. 10 gallon pot although her roots are deep in the native soil at this point, tried to move her, she ain't budging.
PioneerValleyOG
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PioneerValleyOG
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They sound very similar to the gypsy moth invasion we had in Massachusetts years back. We had investigators at every camp site inspecting cars and campers. They made webs in every tree, and defoliated a ton of forest. There was some good that happened though when the forest doubled down to replace all that it had lost, natural food for the turkeys, the turkey population exploded. Something good might happen, I'm wondering why the birds don't just murder them like all the others?
PioneerValleyOG
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Why would they kill the heavenly trees when they use them almost in symbiosis?I'm not going to go find the ag dept bulletin again, but it's one evolving strategy to control them.
Another effective one they are trying in PA is B.bassiana and PFR-97, which look promising as biological controls.
The idea to leave bait trees or plants is fairly common, they feed and lay eggs on their favorite food, concentrates them, rather than having to spray the entire neighborhood.
Usually, they spray the bait tree bark with a paste pesticide. It makes finding the egg masses easier for fall spraying also.
Permethrin based sprays are effective, very high mortality on the instar phase.
Spinosad, not so much, 55% mortality.
Applications of Beauveria bassiana (Hypocreales: Cordycipitaceae) to Control Populations of Spotted Lanternfly (Hemiptera: Fulgoridae), in Semi-Natural Landscapes and on Grapevines
Abstract. Spotted lanternfly, Lycorma delicatula (White), is an invasive Asian insect that was initially found in Berks County, Pennsylvania, in 2014. As oSpotted Lanternfly Management Guide
Publication providing comprehensive details on the spotted lanternfly, including identification and life cycle; quarantine and distribution; host range, phenology, and damage; and management.
Thank you so much for the detailed response. The ortho spray I was looking at has Bifenthrin and Zeta-cypermethrin. Will try it out over the weekendI'm not going to go find the ag dept bulletin again, but it's one evolving strategy to control them.
Another effective one they are trying in PA is B.bassiana and PFR-97, which look promising as biological controls.
The idea to leave bait trees or plants is fairly common, they feed and lay eggs on their favorite food, concentrates them, rather than having to spray the entire neighborhood.
Usually, they spray the bait tree bark with a paste pesticide. It makes finding the egg masses easier for fall spraying also.
Permethrin based sprays are effective, very high mortality on the instar phase.
Spinosad, not so much, 55% mortality.
Applications of Beauveria bassiana (Hypocreales: Cordycipitaceae) to Control Populations of Spotted Lanternfly (Hemiptera: Fulgoridae), in Semi-Natural Landscapes and on Grapevines
Abstract. Spotted lanternfly, Lycorma delicatula (White), is an invasive Asian insect that was initially found in Berks County, Pennsylvania, in 2014. As oSpotted Lanternfly Management Guide
Publication providing comprehensive details on the spotted lanternfly, including identification and life cycle; quarantine and distribution; host range, phenology, and damage; and management.
Birds don't eat colorful bugs because they're usually poisonous. The bright red back on the slf tricks them even though they're safe to eat. As for the symbiosis, we're only looking at the plant and slf. There are hunters specifically for the slf that inadvertently protect the tree of heaven, they are mantis's and parasitic wasps that lay their eggs inside the slf. Both of which are not present in America
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santacruztodd
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I also have their New York City Piff #3 going. Pretty heavy sativa
by the looks of it.
santacruztodd
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These are a couple of shoreline seeds
toastedleaf
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Things looking good here in NS. Ethos Genetics Cherry Gar-Se-ya (on left) and White Wedding RBX (started earlier).
farmerfischer
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Are those 7 gallon fabric pots? Short chair is throwing me off..lol
thumper60
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Nice i got cherry gar-se-a an grampas stash running this yr.
toastedleaf
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Yes 7 gallon pot
Radicle420
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Friesland M33 - Those pink pistils never get old! They started flowering in July and will definetly be done in September!
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santacruztodd
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Runtz nearly finished