outdoor growing in the cold north

RE ssam You asked a stupid question, that's all over the boards. How do I get my weed in in time. I gave you the best answer . Everybody knows what basic strains finish the earliest .Maybe you shouldn't even grow if you don't know the basics.

elkamino said:

I'm at 60 degrees latitude and while I've never finished photos this far north I had good success last summer with Dinafem Auto Amnesias. I know you said no to autos but they've come a long way and if you veg them inside you can finish a couple crops per summer outside. I averaged 2 dank z's per plant and they were better than any purchased weed I've seen here yet.

I've also finished a number of outdoor crops- C-99, NL x C-99, Afghooey, Blue Moon Rocks, JTR and others at 45 degrees N. A lightly-heated greenhouse was required to finish them. Most could've gone longer but all produced good bud, and up to an LB per plant.

Is light deprivation an option for you? A guy called Backcountry has posted about the nuances of that elsewhere, just google "Backcountry Forcing Bloom". Good luck!

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will look up light deprovation appreciate a serious answer lol

Damn cabin fever getting to everyone! lol

Apology accepted and mine in return, but no your question was not clear. I gave you the best answer to get your crop in at full maturity. Strains had to be obvious IMHO.

sssam420 said:

will look up light deprovation appreciate a serious answer lol

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I gave you this answer in my first post sir.

and I don't troll.
lol

TWS said:

Apology accepted and mine in return, but no your question was not clear. I gave you the best answer to get your crop in at full maturity. Strains had to be obvious IMHO.

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yes strains are fairly obvious ... i was looking for anyone who had any experience with any that aren't obvious .

and yeh i took his bit of advice cause atleast he had answered my question aswell which was about strains not growing techniques buddy!

Some people have had success with Iranian Autoflower.

sssam420 said:

and yeh i took his bit of advice cause atleast he had answered my question aswell which was about strains not growing techniques buddy!

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Obviously you didn't know about the techniques. Now you admittedly said you will research it. Sorry I ever tried to help you.

elkamino said:

I'm at 60 degrees latitude and while I've never finished photos this far north I had good success last summer with Dinafem Auto Amnesias. I know you said no to autos but they've come a long way and if you veg them inside you can finish a couple crops per summer outside. I averaged 2 dank z's per plant and they were better than any purchased weed I've seen here yet.

I've also finished a number of outdoor crops- C-99, NL x C-99, Afghooey, Blue Moon Rocks, JTR and others at 45 degrees N. A lightly-heated greenhouse was required to finish them. Most could've gone longer but all produced good bud, and up to an LB per plant.

Is light deprivation an option for you? A guy called Backcountry has posted about the nuances of that elsewhere, just google "Backcountry Forcing Bloom". Good luck!

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I watched a Gorge Cervantes thing where some dude was getting THREE CROPs EVERY SUMMER - by pulling a cover over his greenhouse and making the plants think it was 12 hours of night.
He also used a type of aluminium netting to bounce off excess heat and keep greenhouse temps cooler.
I cant recall if it was a greenhouse or a polytunnel but it was pretty amazing how many crops he was squeezing out of his plants WITH ZERO additional lights or energy costs.

I live in Yorkshire, North of England. It's a very populated area and getting away from people isn't easy.
I have a ambition/retirement dream of going to the Highlands and Islands of Scotland (Sutherland is one of the most sparsely populated areas in Western Europe)
and attempting to do an outdoor/polytunnel grow.
The Scots authorities will also give grants (not loans = GRANTS!) to people who move to depopulated areas and agree to spend the money on bringing an abandoned property back up to habitable standards.

It is possible (not even difficult!) to find an abandoned cottage with its own lake (known locally as a 'Loch') and/or a river or stream or pond, a wood or forest, even a hill or small mountain.
It would also be doable to find a place near the coast - but avoiding other people is top priority.

Rather than head onto an Outer Hebridean Island, I'd settle on the mainland.

WhenI had grown enough to afford a boat and sailing lessons
I may sail off to uninhabited islands - prepare plots
Go back to start grows
Sail in for weekly checks
and harvest the entire island at the end of the season.

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE ULTIMATE WAY TO EARN A LIVING AND EXPERIENCE EXCITEMENT???

Rob Roy said:

Some people have had success with Iranian Autoflower.

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He's avoiding AUTO's
He wants to start a few DONOR MOTHERS and clip loads of cuttings for the outdoors.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO BREED AUTO'S
and, at less expense, produce MANY seeds for next seasons outdoor grow???

No comparison here to the cold UK but I pull off 3-4 winter crops in a hoops house But vegged inside and stuck outside to flower.

NorthofEngland said:

He's avoiding AUTO's
He wants to start a few DONOR MOTHERS and clip loads of cuttings for the outdoors.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO BREED AUTO'S
and, at less expense, produce MANY seeds for next seasons outdoor grow???

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Iranian auto flower is the name, however it's a bit of a misnomer. It can be cloned and held in veg under 24 hour lighting.

Your best bet is to look for Canadian strains bred for the outdoors. There are a few specific ones including sativas. If you hear the word "Grizzly" as part of the strain name, you know its most like from Canada and for outdoors. Anyhow, many of the canadian provinces have their own out door strains, be your best be for cold climate hardy and earlier flowering variety. You'll have to do some looking around. Cheers.

Read this bud:
http://vanseedbank.blogspot.ca/2013/03/great-strains-for-growing-outdoors.html

Seeds:

http://www.vancouverseedbank.ca/manufacturers.php?id=34

http://canadianseedbank.ca/index.php?route=product/category&path=25

Mashpotato Johnson said:

Your best bet is to look for Canadian strains bred for the outdoors. There are a few specific ones including sativas. If you hear the word "Grizzly" as part of the strain name, you know its most like from Canada and for outdoors. Anyhow, many of the canadian provinces have their own out door strains, be your best be for cold climate hardy and earlier flowering variety. You'll have to do some looking around. Cheers.

Read this bud:
http://vanseedbank.blogspot.ca/2013/03/great-strains-for-growing-outdoors.html

Seeds:

http://www.vancouverseedbank.ca/manufacturers.php?id=34

http://canadianseedbank.ca/index.php?route=product/category&path=25

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Fantastic piece of information!
You're one of a VERY SELECT group who have received a REPUTATION BOOST from me.
Cheers, Cannuck.
I owe you one.

Rob Roy said:

Iranian auto flower is the name, however it's a bit of a misnomer. It can be cloned and held in veg under 24 hour lighting.

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OK, I'll do a little looking into Iranian Autoflower.
T B H Iran isn't a place I associate with marijuana - but that may ALSO be part of the 'misnomer' aspect???

Dr. Greenthumb has Iranian Auto flower. Hemp Depot has Grizzly seeds (Kootenay seeds) . Good luck and stay safe.

NorthofEngland said:

So BOTH INDICAS AND SATIVAS NEED THE DAY TO DROP TO 12/13 HOURS OF SUNLIGHT BEFORE FLOWERING IS EVEN TRIGGERED....
THEN INDICAS NEED 6 OR 7 WEEKS TO COMPLETE BUT
SATS NEED 12 TO 16 WEEKS -JUST TO FLOWER!!!!

WELL THENS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BRING A SAT TO FLOWER IN THE UK OUTDOORS.
12 WEEKS LEFT WHEN THEY START TO FLOWER IN SEPTEMBER....???

They wouldn't be ready before Christmas
or about 6 weeks after the frosts and harsh winter conditions had killed it.

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god people are stupid, outdoor plants use much more than light hrs alone to determine finish time, and begin flower on average(atleast for me) about 14 hrs of light. It all has to do with light hrs gradually dropping after the equinox, light spectrum gradually changing from blue to red, dropping temp, I believe even moon phases play a vital role in it as well. people do too much damn reading these day and think they know it all afterward, don't get me wrong hearing different ideas is a good thing but things aren't so black and white. theres a lot of grey area if that makes sense.

Mr.Marijuana420 said:

god people are stupid, outdoor plants use much more than light hrs alone to determine finish time, and begin flower on average(atleast for me) about 14 hrs of light. It all has to do with light hrs gradually dropping after the equinox, light spectrum gradually changing from blue to red, dropping temp, I believe even moon phases play a vital role in it as well. people do too much damn reading these day and think they know it all afterward, don't get me wrong hearing different ideas is a good thing but things aren't so black and white. theres a lot of grey area if that makes sense.

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Yeah
That's why, after I flip my lights to 12 and 12 (indoors) I have to turn on the taps in my bath - BECAUSE FLOWERING HAS 'SOMETHING TO DO WITH MOON CYCLES'.
And you say other people are stupid...?

Blue spectrum lighting will still instigate flowering if dropped to 12 hours - so that's another issue that you're wrong about.

Maybe you should try reading a few books?
Or just staying quiet to avoid exposing how totally imbecilic you are.

Post any supporting evidence that backs up your statements.
You cant do it because YOU ARE THE STUPID one.