Outdoor, indoor seeds??? WTF

why is it always stated that outdoor seeds produce more then the indoor? the only thing i can think of is that the roots would have less restriction in the unlimited soil, or that the sun is incomparable to indoor lights. but i think with enough good lights and a big pot (i dont really think its the pot, roots can be so root bound and still be able to grow normally im a bonsai enthusiast so ive seen from experience the extremes for growing plants) the plants should grow the same. is it that plants grown outside have longer veg. growth then people like to have in indoors (size problems) but i dont have a problem with having 20 large plants growing and having plenty of lights to support them. so should i discount that information or is there a major difference outside?

P.S. i have never grown outdoors because of the dangerous variables i cant control. so i cant personally see a difference. interested in people personal experiences! thanks

My experience is that natural environment is much better than indoors. Yield? That all depends on your skill, strain and consistent ideal weather conditions. Remember while growing indoor the key is to create an environment that mimics the sweet out-doors. I have had greater yields indoors than outdoor. Why? I am not really sure....maybe due to the amount of CO2 that was added. Good luck.

it looks to me like every strain according to these seed sites is a greater yeild outside but shit idk! how much co2 are you adding and what do you use? ive been growing for a little over 5 years i get some really nice crops but never used co2 mainly because i couldn't find a good alternative to just buying a tank which i think is a little to risky for me to go filling those all the time. thanks for the post

originalstrain said:

it looks to me like every strain according to these seed sites is a greater yeild outside but shit idk! how much co2 are you adding and what do you use? ive been growing for a little over 5 years i get some really nice crops but never used co2 mainly because i couldn't find a good alternative to just buying a tank which i think is a little to risky for me to go flling those all the time. thanks for the post

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A 20 # tank will last quite a while......

whats a 20 #???? never heard of it.

originalstrain said:

whats a 20 #???? never heard of it.

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I was referring to the capacity size of the tank cylinder. A twenty pound tank is a excellent size for you. It's not one of those big ass tall welding tank sizes and it's not a tiny paint ball size. It's just a tad bit shorter than a scuba diving tank, highly mobile yet holds quite a bit of c02.

so has any got the answer to why it is stated that an outdoor plant will produce more then an indoor? i think with proper space for roots, lights and longer veg. time they should be the same if not better since you control the environment. am i right or am i missing something?

The yields are only averages. Typically a plant designated as indoor will grow well and meet the yield average indoors in a space of 1 sq meter not per plant but the cultivation space which most likely would have several plants. This already assumes that you have the appropriate environmental controls and skills as a grower. The outdoor door yield average is per plant.

ok look. plants yield more when they grow taller. when they are outside, they dont have a height cap. also the plants "stretch" more to get as much as possible. this is why many strains of cannabis reach up to 20ft. outdoors ... more height = more bud. plus natural sunlight has a higher range of light absorbed by the plant. very hard to recreate the sun artificially. greenhouses are the best way to grow since you get natural sun, but can control the environment better than outdoors only.

so really i was right you can get the same indoors as outdoors if you have enough room, soil, and light! i realize its per m2, but are they really telling the truth i never got 500 grams per meter2, or are they just gassin it up? has anyone got close to 500/m2 i would love to see that crop!! thanks though!

ps - one of my grow rooms is in a boiler room which has a 30 foot ceiling so hight is not a restriction, so really they are just goin off of what people normally have as conditions in an indoor grow? thats what i thought! thanks

i have no idea about m2, but i get about 1lb per plant indoors with a 20gal dwc scrog fim tech

you got a pic of that 1lb plant? is it dry? thats pretty amazing! i need what your growing!!

originalstrain said:

so really i was right you can get the same indoors as outdoors if you have enough room, soil, and light! i realize its per m2, but are they really telling the truth i never got 500 grams per meter2, or are they just gassin it up?

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well having your indoor grow being equivalent to the sun is essentially impossible. As OpenDNS pointed out a greenhouse grow would be better. I suggest you study up on lighting to understand the different points. I have achieved 1 gram per watt under a single 400 hps. More skilled growers can achieve 1-2lbs per 1000 hps or a pound per plant. Which can be done in way less than an m2.

You better believe the yields are "gassed up", nobody ever tells you how they got to those yields. You could easily do better or much worse, depending if you know what you are doing...

I normally add up to 1500 ppm of CO2....the difference is amazing. My yield is much greater when I do.

I love your avatar.

BuckTheSystem said:

A 20 # tank will last quite a while......

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No kidding? How big an area are you talking kitty?
Thats interesting.

kittysecrets4u said:

I normally add up to 1500 ppm of CO2....the difference is amazing. My yield is much greater when I do.

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Lacy said:

I love your avatar.

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Well thank you Lacy

i like to think i know what im doing, dont know if do, but i havent come close to a pound per plant! i grow like 24 plants under 8 600watt lights, and the most ive gotten was a little under 10.5 pounds. but im not using co2, and i grow in dirt, i only use organics, so i know im losing some compared to like areo growers with $400 dollars worth of chemicals! but im satisfied. plus is totally natural. do you have any advice on what i could use to get my yield up?

silk said:

well having your indoor grow being equivalent to the sun is essentially impossible. As OpenDNS pointed out a greenhouse grow would be better. I suggest you study up on lighting to understand the different points. I have achieved 1 gram per watt under a single 400 hps. More skilled growers can achieve 1-2lbs per 1000 hps or a pound per plant. Which can be done in way less than an m2.

You better believe the yields are "gassed up", nobody ever tells you how they got to those yields. You could easily do better or much worse, depending if you know what you are doing...

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BuckTheSystem said:

I was referring to the capacity size of the tank cylinder. A twenty pound tank is a excellent size for you. It's not one of those big ass tall welding tank sizes and it's not a tiny paint ball size. It's just a tad bit shorter than a scuba diving tank, highly mobile yet holds quite a bit of c02.

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i use one for a commercial drink co2 system. works great.

i grow so called indoor seeds outdoor if you got a big enough space and pots you make outdoor sized plant hell even bigger if your space is big enough and i grow some big fucking outdoor