Dryxi
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A bit long of a post. Ty for reading if you make it to the end.
So I am starting the planning process of my next grow. I spent a year growing in a basement in a 5x5 tent. I found that I really couldn't control my environment well. Everything was always dependent on how the weather was outside. If it was super humid (all summer), it was the same in my basement even after buying a compact2 dehuey to run down there. Temp fluctuations were not fun and I didnt want to try to add an ac or heater to the tent. Attempting to control the basement through central ac/heat was not working.
For my next grow I am going to move to an outdoor wooden shed and put in the time and money to create a sealed personal grow. (I do not sell and grow for myself/wifey). I am hoping to see if I can get suggestions and criticism on my plan before the money starts flowing away from me.
Shed dimensions: 18ft x 10 usable space inside.
Lights on hand: 4 315w CMH, 1 550 HLG led Plan: eventually move to 2 or 3 of the 550s and use the CMH as additional lighting for the spectrums)
Growing Style: I currently grow notill in a 4x4 planter bed using soil from BAS. It is a little over a year old. Not a standard perpetual grow in that I wont be rushing to get new plants into the flower room the second I harvest or anything. Plan: I want to add another 4x4 bed and have a total of 4x8 of actual ground space being used by the beds)
Watering: I have used sub-irrigation watering for my last grows but really found I have to water from the top as well just to keep the soil moist. Moving to blumats for the beds. I have water supplied to the shed through rainwater system that fills 2 50 gal water containers.
I haven't bought a minisplit yet, but that is the plan. Not sure which one I want, but I have a friend that can charge the lines if needed and install. Was thinking about the DIY mr.cools but haven't made up my mind on anything. Also not positive how big it will need to be to accomplish what I want (stable environment)
For insulation, I plan on spending the money and having it spray foam insulated with closed cell foam. I cannot insulate the floors underneath, and am not sure how necessary that would be. The planter beds will be sitting on top of about 6 inches of growstones in a 4x4 plastic tubs, so not touching the ground. I will be sealing the floor and waterproofing it in some way.
For CO2 I plan to use some of the brewing designs found on this forum. I have literally no idea how much co2 that is going to produce but I plan on building a couple arduino setups to monitor co2,temp, and humidity (as well as control my minisplit and dehuey). I'll move to tanks if I find it wont work out. Not necessarily going for 1300 ppm as much as have at a bare minimum 400ish. More is better here I know, but essential.
For venting: I will run an exhaust/intake fan on an automatic damper, to keep it sealed, at lights out to help remove ethylene buildup. Not sure what size fans I might need. I dont think i need to vent the air at the whole 1-2 min air exchange considering i could just slowly vent it throughout the night right? Never built or been inside a good sealed room so i am going off what i have seen here. I will make sure i have a nice hepa filter on the intake. I will also have a phresh carbon filter on the exhaust as well as another carbon filter in the room hooked to a 400 cfm to use as a scrubber in the flower room.
Lastly for the layout, I am thinking I put up a wall/door to separate the shed into two rooms. The back half would be 12x10 flower room (should be plenty of space to work with the plants and have 2 feet at least on all sides. In the tent, it was much tighter and inconvenient). The flower room will have the spray foam. For front half (6x10), I am thinking I will use batts and it will be in this room that I do cloning/prop as well as do some vegging/keep moms (which I dont currently have yet). Not positive how I would set that up, but thinking I would do vegging under some shelving I'll build and clone/prop above it. Then I would also have space for whatever else I might want in that room.
Not sure if I should put the dehuey inside the flower room or not (hanging) and/or if I should move all ballasts into the front room as well.
I think an issue I am seeing already as I type this is that the flower room will be sealed with the spray foam and wont be sharing the ac with the front room unless I buy a 2 zone minisplit. So maybe doing the batts/spray foam combo wont work out. Cant succeed if I dont have a good plan first.
Any suggestions or ideas? Goals are to save money where I can, but not really be giving up too much in the process.
So I am starting the planning process of my next grow. I spent a year growing in a basement in a 5x5 tent. I found that I really couldn't control my environment well. Everything was always dependent on how the weather was outside. If it was super humid (all summer), it was the same in my basement even after buying a compact2 dehuey to run down there. Temp fluctuations were not fun and I didnt want to try to add an ac or heater to the tent. Attempting to control the basement through central ac/heat was not working.
For my next grow I am going to move to an outdoor wooden shed and put in the time and money to create a sealed personal grow. (I do not sell and grow for myself/wifey). I am hoping to see if I can get suggestions and criticism on my plan before the money starts flowing away from me.
Shed dimensions: 18ft x 10 usable space inside.
Lights on hand: 4 315w CMH, 1 550 HLG led Plan: eventually move to 2 or 3 of the 550s and use the CMH as additional lighting for the spectrums)
Growing Style: I currently grow notill in a 4x4 planter bed using soil from BAS. It is a little over a year old. Not a standard perpetual grow in that I wont be rushing to get new plants into the flower room the second I harvest or anything. Plan: I want to add another 4x4 bed and have a total of 4x8 of actual ground space being used by the beds)
Watering: I have used sub-irrigation watering for my last grows but really found I have to water from the top as well just to keep the soil moist. Moving to blumats for the beds. I have water supplied to the shed through rainwater system that fills 2 50 gal water containers.
I haven't bought a minisplit yet, but that is the plan. Not sure which one I want, but I have a friend that can charge the lines if needed and install. Was thinking about the DIY mr.cools but haven't made up my mind on anything. Also not positive how big it will need to be to accomplish what I want (stable environment)
For insulation, I plan on spending the money and having it spray foam insulated with closed cell foam. I cannot insulate the floors underneath, and am not sure how necessary that would be. The planter beds will be sitting on top of about 6 inches of growstones in a 4x4 plastic tubs, so not touching the ground. I will be sealing the floor and waterproofing it in some way.
For CO2 I plan to use some of the brewing designs found on this forum. I have literally no idea how much co2 that is going to produce but I plan on building a couple arduino setups to monitor co2,temp, and humidity (as well as control my minisplit and dehuey). I'll move to tanks if I find it wont work out. Not necessarily going for 1300 ppm as much as have at a bare minimum 400ish. More is better here I know, but essential.
For venting: I will run an exhaust/intake fan on an automatic damper, to keep it sealed, at lights out to help remove ethylene buildup. Not sure what size fans I might need. I dont think i need to vent the air at the whole 1-2 min air exchange considering i could just slowly vent it throughout the night right? Never built or been inside a good sealed room so i am going off what i have seen here. I will make sure i have a nice hepa filter on the intake. I will also have a phresh carbon filter on the exhaust as well as another carbon filter in the room hooked to a 400 cfm to use as a scrubber in the flower room.
Lastly for the layout, I am thinking I put up a wall/door to separate the shed into two rooms. The back half would be 12x10 flower room (should be plenty of space to work with the plants and have 2 feet at least on all sides. In the tent, it was much tighter and inconvenient). The flower room will have the spray foam. For front half (6x10), I am thinking I will use batts and it will be in this room that I do cloning/prop as well as do some vegging/keep moms (which I dont currently have yet). Not positive how I would set that up, but thinking I would do vegging under some shelving I'll build and clone/prop above it. Then I would also have space for whatever else I might want in that room.
Not sure if I should put the dehuey inside the flower room or not (hanging) and/or if I should move all ballasts into the front room as well.
I think an issue I am seeing already as I type this is that the flower room will be sealed with the spray foam and wont be sharing the ac with the front room unless I buy a 2 zone minisplit. So maybe doing the batts/spray foam combo wont work out. Cant succeed if I dont have a good plan first.
Any suggestions or ideas? Goals are to save money where I can, but not really be giving up too much in the process.
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