Pcp?

canndo

canndo

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I got a question for the folks here. I know of an incident where someone is going on trial over manufacture of PCP. Now I don't know the requirements of a PCP lab but I looked up the synthisis and it isn't simple at all. Is there a market for PCP? Do people still use it?

I had always known that PCP was a diverted substance, "borrowed" from pet hospitals and then dried or applied to smokeables or snorted. I thought the stuff was rather pleasant snorted.

Here is the puzzle:

Why would someone with a lab capable of making PCP. . make PCP?
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
you'd be surprised over the market of pcp.. i know in the city of brotherly love, pcp can be quite the popular drug.. there is definitely money to be made in producing pcp i would imagine..
 
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HIDDEN42O

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racerboy71 said:
you'd be surprised over the market of pcp.. i know in the city of brotherly love, pcp can be quite the popular drug.. there is definitely money to be made in producing pcp i would imagine..
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True.

I would imagine there would be more money in other directions. Alot more. PCP seems kinda boy scout.

If it's not money they are motivated by and they just wanted open minds then shit..... Cook LSD...... I will sample......
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
HIDDEN42O said:
True.

I would imagine there would be more money in other directions. Alot more. PCP seems kinda boy scout.

If it's not money they are motivated by and they just wanted open minds then shit..... Cook LSD...... I will sample......
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what do you mean by seeming kinda boy scout? i'm sorry, i just don't quite understand what your saying..
 
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HIDDEN42O

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racerboy71 said:
what do you mean by seeming kinda boy scout? i'm sorry, i just don't quite understand what your saying..
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PCP market. Small. Boy Scout.

Other markets. Larger. More demand. Not Boy Scout.

As far as the chemical itself. I can't say. Never tried. I don't dig dope that I can't control. But the effects look FAR from boy scout... :mrgreen:
 
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mrmoe

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best shit i ever done, recommend you to try it once, just make sure you lock your self in around happy people no neg vibes that can be bad ju-ju
 
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HIDDEN42O

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mrmoe said:
best shit i ever done, recommend you to try it once, just make sure you lock your self in around happy people no neg vibes that can be bad ju-ju
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I can't bring myself to do it. I'm the boss. I'm in charge. If some chemical starts trying to throw me in directions I haven't prepared for I get defensive.

Abducted by aliens and anal probed... nah.... I'll stick to light speed and flux capacitors.... :mrgreen:
 
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mrmoe

Member
that can happen and its not for everyone but i liked to experiment when i was younger boy did i ever experiment
 
canndo

canndo

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PCP is a disassociative, not unlike K. It has distinctly different effects and in larger doses it leaves a body load that feels almost toxic - one sort of feels like they have been dipped in a chemical toilet or something to that effect. I still have the question though. Why defy the law in order to set up a fairly sophisiticated lab, divert a handful of watched chemicals, produce tell tale chemical signitures in disposal and smell, only to produce a baggie full of PCP? I can't help but think that the police are missing something.
 
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a dog named chico

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canndo said:
PCP is a disassociative, not unlike K. It has distinctly different effects and in larger doses it leaves a body load that feels almost toxic - one sort of feels like they have been dipped in a chemical toilet or something to that effect. I still have the question though. Why defy the law in order to set up a fairly sophisiticated lab, divert a handful of watched chemicals, produce tell tale chemical signitures in disposal and smell, only to produce a baggie full of PCP? I can't help but think that the police are missing something.
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Maybe their intensions where to make more and just got caught in the process. i think the person just saw a opening in the market and possessed a knowledge and how to. Think of it this way if you could grow weed or make LSD for profit what would you do? i would make LSD, IMO it is easier to hide random chemicals than a plant. but i do not have the knowledge so here we are...
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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i just don't think the op understands the market for pcp.. there have to be at least i would say a good 50 corners, or sets if you will, in the city of brotherly love that all sit there and sell wet, dust, pcp, whatever you'd like to call it, for a good 18 hours of the day.. this is just one city in the entire country.. and i surely doubt that it is just one person who goes around to each set and buys all of their wet, which leads me to believe that wet has a huge market in this country, and just because the op may never have done it, there are obviously lots of other people who have, and continue to do so..
now, i've been to almost every set in north philly at one time or another, and never, not once have i ever seen one of them selling lsd.. not a once have i driven past a corner to have someone yell out cid to me.. now mind you, i'm sure that there are enough people in say the clubs and outdoor concerts who may sell acid, but you can't tell me that these people can even touch the amount of money that i well established set can make in a day or a week.. dark destruction and i were talking about what we say on this show called the squeeze, and dude had said that his set in chicago made $75000 a day selling drugs, none of which are lsd.. this is one simple set in one simple city in the us.. now i'm not saying that wet is as big of a seller as say heroin or ready rock, but i do believe that it surely out sells lsd every day of the week, and twice on sundays, and this is why the person who got arrested decided to make himself some wet instead of some lsd...
just my two cents though, what do i know...
 
canndo

canndo

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racerboy71 said:
i just don't think the op understands the market for pcp.. there have to be at least i would say a good 50 corners, or sets if you will, in the city of brotherly love that all sit there and sell wet, dust, pcp, whatever you'd like to call it, for a good 18 hours of the day.. this is just one city in the entire country.. and i surely doubt that it is just one person who goes around to each set and buys all of their wet, which leads me to believe that wet has a huge market in this country, and just because the op may never have done it, there are obviously lots of other people who have, and continue to do so..
now, i've been to almost every set in north philly at one time or another, and never, not once have i ever seen one of them selling lsd.. not a once have i driven past a corner to have someone yell out cid to me.. now mind you, i'm sure that there are enough people in say the clubs and outdoor concerts who may sell acid, but you can't tell me that these people can even touch the amount of money that i well established set can make in a day or a week.. dark destruction and i were talking about what we say on this show called the squeeze, and dude had said that his set in chicago made $75000 a day selling drugs, none of which are lsd.. this is one simple set in one simple city in the us.. now i'm not saying that wet is as big of a seller as say heroin or ready rock, but i do believe that it surely out sells lsd every day of the week, and twice on sundays, and this is why the person who got arrested decided to make himself some wet instead of some lsd...
just my two cents though, what do i know...
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Absolutely correct sir, I do not understand the market. I did enjoy my short time with the substance and found it not to be the horror the police made it out to be. I have simply not heard of anything but simple diversion of that chemical. Now it is entirely possible that the manufacturer happened to have a couple of vats of precursors handy. I suppose someone who had such chemicals accidentaly or on purpose would be led to produce such a chemical and beyond that, market it in a new way to a new generation. I don't think that these precursors are applicable to any of the more popular synthisized chemicals and I doubt there is much of a common denominator of watched precursors between say, PCP and X for example. It seems that you know plenty enough to reasonably speculate. So what you are saying is that there really is a decent market for angle dust or wet (is that the term?)
 
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SuBlimE420

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people make it because some good juice and a dose will make me walk down the street sideways.

that red guerillaa killaa. just be careful kids.. to much can have your ass floored for 5 hours not knowing who your mother was even if she was right in front of you.. but the right amount and you feel like a miillion bucks.
 
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HIDDEN42O

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racerboy71 said:
i just don't think the op understands the market for pcp.. there have to be at least i would say a good 50 corners, or sets if you will, in the city of brotherly love that all sit there and sell wet, dust, pcp, whatever you'd like to call it, for a good 18 hours of the day.. this is just one city in the entire country.. and i surely doubt that it is just one person who goes around to each set and buys all of their wet, which leads me to believe that wet has a huge market in this country, and just because the op may never have done it, there are obviously lots of other people who have, and continue to do so..
now, i've been to almost every set in north philly at one time or another, and never, not once have i ever seen one of them selling lsd.. not a once have i driven past a corner to have someone yell out cid to me.. now mind you, i'm sure that there are enough people in say the clubs and outdoor concerts who may sell acid, but you can't tell me that these people can even touch the amount of money that i well established set can make in a day or a week.. dark destruction and i were talking about what we say on this show called the squeeze, and dude had said that his set in chicago made $75000 a day selling drugs, none of which are lsd.. this is one simple set in one simple city in the us.. now i'm not saying that wet is as big of a seller as say heroin or ready rock, but i do believe that it surely out sells lsd every day of the week, and twice on sundays, and this is why the person who got arrested decided to make himself some wet instead of some lsd...
just my two cents though, what do i know...
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Location is a huge factor. You come this way and you will never here cid, wet etc. etc. Nobody even knows what that shit is.

I haven't traveled the US. Don't plan on it. But the 5 - 6 states I call home are all the same.

Philly from what I can tell is an exception to the rule. I started searching about more info about the PCP market and the first sentence I read was... "Swim was recently on a trip with friends to Philadelphia, in his time there he acquired many drugs that SWIM had never experienced before. Having taken the occasional shrooms, DXM, benzos, vicodin (and other weaker opiates), muscle relaxants, speed, X, and many other pills, Swim was not weary of his first PCP experience. Known as "Wiggles" in the area of Philly"

LOL

I'm looking more at numbers and wholesale. Low level street dealing is not one of my worries.

Oral PCP Dosages
Light3 - 5 mg Common5 - 10 mg Strong10 + mg
LSD Oral Dosages
Threshold20 ug
Light25 - 75 ug
Common50 - 150 ug
Strong150 - 400 ug
Heavy400 + ug


1 Kg of PcP yields 100 strong doses.

1 Kg of LSD yields 5000000 strong doses.

More money to be made for the cook.

Low level "boy scout" street dealers may have a harder time pushing cid but hey, that's not my problem. They should upgrade or graduate.

That's just the way I see it in the big picture. Just my opinion though I'm not saying anyone is right/wrong.
 
Tenner

Tenner

Well-Known Member
Well if PCP has a market that means there is demand, and demand most propably means people like the effects of the drug. Thats why some dealers make it...

I have never had it but I have heard its slightly dangerous compared to other drugs.
 
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HIDDEN42O

Active Member
There is a market for everything and somebody's got to be there to fill the niche.

[video=youtube;3I6JQpYLYPM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I6JQpYLYPM&feature=related[/video]
 
Sinsay

Sinsay

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God i hope not
PCP was first synthesized in 1926, and later tested after as a surgical anesthetic. Because of its adverse side effects, such as hallucinations, mania, delirium, and disorientation, it was shelved until the 1950s. In 1953, it was patented by Parke-Davis and named Sernyl (referring to serenity),[18] but was only used in humans for a few years because of side-effects. In 1967, it was given the trade name Sernylan and marketed as a veterinary anesthetic, but was again discontinued. Its side effects and long half-life in the human body made it unsuitable for medical applications.
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