Gastanker
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Uh... A cheap old one I got at the local drug store for $5. Has low, medium and high settings - watch out for hotspots.
perfect ear wax using only buds
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Gastanker
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How is it more stable pre whip? Less oxidization? I've never had oil in any form last a long period so I wouldn't know if it stores better fully dried versus a more viscous oil form.
concentrateking
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well it has took me almost two years and over 100 successful runs to in my opinion perfect this process. i wasnt going to change any thing but you seem like you know a good amount about this.so you recommend more precise tools a dental pick is a good idea but what can i use to replace the razor blade.and as for storing it i usualy place it in an air tight plastic container or i leave it in the dish i cooked it in and stretch saran wrap over the top.
Gastanker
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Stainless is stainless imo as long as you are not scraping metal flakes into your mix. You can fill your containers with inert gas for storage... If you want to go pro get one of these and 100% N-Butane.
http://www.tamisiumextractors.com/
washedmothafuka
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You are literally whipping air into your product. When you oxidize your bho like that it loses flavor/potency much quicker than a stable oil (that's why wax smells so much better, it's giving off all those terpenes quicker.) It is a matter of preference as some prefer wax/budder over oil. I find wax really hard to get onto my dabber w/o getting it on my fingers, and I tend to keep my batches of oil for long periods of time. This all my opinion so take it with a grain of salt...there is no need to whip BHO. It is simply that some people enjoy the texture of wax better.
If whipped in small batches that's fine (I've done that before as well) but those huge tubs you see of wax at dispensaries....that shit degrades pretty quickly if they don't flip it fast.
Gastanker
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Agree that the whipped budder has more O2 but the dried scraped hard wax should have less than both and be more stable than oil. Id say topping off the container with inert gas will have more of an influence over oxidation than whipping or not but ofc whipped will still have more. How do you get wax on your fingers? Do you not use a dabber? Without a dabber I can't imagine using the stickier oil.
/e Never mind I reread that, you form the budder onto the dabber with fingers? If the wax doesn't stick to your dabber try slightly warming it (the dabber)
washedmothafuka
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What do you mean by the dried scraped hard wax as opposed to the whipped budder?
And my oil is only a little sticky, turns into a shader that come off like shards and chunks but mold to the dabber really well. So you don't agree that whipping a product will decrease the shelf life? TBH I am still learning, and over at TC the consensus seems to be hard clear oil. Not saying this is bad, just wondering what makes it so desirable besides being easier to dab?
Gastanker
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I would assume whipped to oxidize just a tad faster than hard clear oil but considering it easily lasts 6+ months stored properly without any degradation I can't imagine shelf life really mattering - I've never had a vile of oil last over a year and not be used up. To offset this slight degradation for long term storage one could top off the container with inert gas in which case the point is mute.
Other than ease of handling there is no advantage that I can see. Id say I waste less in the budder form as less is stuck to the bottle - I do realize you can extract this with ISO or by freezing/chipping but that still means an extra step and falls into the ease of handling imo. I like all forms.
This is the hard scraped wax -
No whipping but very easy to handle.
Following is one of FDD's pics of the same process for making the above - just really really dry the stuff out
washedmothafuka
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Second pic doesn't even look like the same thing. I'm so lost now man...that turd doesn't look very enjoyable, why's it greyish-green?
Gastanker
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The turd is the second stuff pressed into a ball - it's greyish-green due to the lighting in my room.
washedmothafuka
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Hmm. Fair enough. Guess I'll stick with dabbing my rock candy oil. Goes to show you how much personal preference comes into the equation. Such is life.
Gastanker
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Amen to personal preference. I like a variety - I have make wax, budder, glass, oil, and love them all.
This is pre purge but I often end up with glass that looks almost identical to this minus the bubbles - by far one of the prettiest forms.
All smoke and taste identical, just look and feel a bit different.
This is pre purge but I often end up with glass that looks almost identical to this minus the bubbles - by far one of the prettiest forms.
All smoke and taste identical, just look and feel a bit different.
str8sativa
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i made some bho left it in the oil state for three days pissed that icouldnt butter it and my othe batch buttered almost instantly using different trim. i took the oil put it in a pyrex dish and set the dish in boiling water and with barley any whipping it all buttered up i was so happy i think it taste better in butter form
the zacdes
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Mate, you still have heaps of tane in there. FIRST, DO NOT put whole buds in your tube, CRUSH it up fairly fine, pack it in hard, your yield just went right up!! When it finishes evap, pour on a little ISO, about a third of an inch. The tane is now in free solution and will evap[purge] well!, repeat this process once more, it only adds 20 minutes and cleans it right up!! You CANNOT whip PURE, purged, oil, whip all day, it wont happen!! What makes impure oil whip in to BUDDER,lol, is just BUTANE!!! Its lungbusting shit compared to a good hexane extract!! Ive improved the blow through tube method heaps, its now an enclosed, pressurized system, easily!!! Soaks the weed in tane for long enough for a PROPER extraction!! Not that I will use it much, it was for the butane heads i did it, yields over 30% Hexane is the way to the best, cleanest honey!!!