mike45214
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That's a mess for sure but it's a problem I wouldn't mind having. From the looks of it I'd say that's a vertical grow?
Perpetual Growers Thread
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ttystikk
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Mess?! She's gorgeous! All the work to train and trim is hiding behind all those buds! Yes, vertical as are all of my girls. I'm putting her in the perpetual section because she's up for chop this week, I run a two week perpetual of six footers. They average 'over a pound', each. My best was a bubblegum, 26.25z.
She's a good girl, all right. She'll keep you busy for days, and then distracted for months!
mike45214
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Best I've done on a single plant scrog was a few grams less than a pound. I was surprised with that cause I was thinking it'd be somewhere around 10oz. The buds were pretty dense.
ttystikk
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That's all that's going on here, just a SCRoG trained up a piece of fencing. Goat and sheep fencing, 4" square opening, no lie. It's baaa-aaa-aad Aaa-ass!
sky rocket
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I wish I could scrog. I'm just to impatient to do so....I just can't see myself vegging past 3 weeks....lol
mike45214
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All the training in veg is almost as much fun as watching all the buds form for me.
ttystikk
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To bloom at six feet on a trellis panel, mine need to get six feet tall in veg. Proper training is key to plant health, yield, even timing.
ThaMagnificent
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Anyone running a flood tray in flower? What does your veg setup look like?
blackforest
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New wallpaper for my dual monitors. Looks Great!
ttystikk
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Glad to help!
mike45214
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I've had one grow 7ft inside, unfortunately I had to cut it down before it bloomed. I can only imagine what it could have done with training.
ttystikk
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I have the most fun imagining things- and then building them.
mike45214
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Building your own thing is great! No better feeling than that accomplishment. That's what men do! Men build boys buy!
ttystikk
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Never heard that before. So who does the engineering?
I have a very interesting new toy under construction. I've built a vertical COB panel... a big one. The moment it's ready I'll be throwing plants at it, to see what it can do. That moment could be as early as this weekend.
Alaric
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mike45214
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ThaMagnificent
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Thinking about running a ebb and flo table with hydroton smart pots. Whats a good veg setup to feed into this? Clone in aeroclone then transfer to small rockwool cubes and then into the hydroton smartpots to flower? Can i just transplant a rockwool cube into a smart pot?
ttystikk
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The full story is on my thread, link in my signature page.
Short version; 96 x CXB3590 3500K CD bin COB LED chips, all in four chip modules with their drivers.
48 chips in 12 modules all face one way, 4 modules to a 4' wide by 6' tall trellis panel. The other dozen face the opposite way, lighting three more plants for a total of six plants in the batch.
You've already seen these panels and what I do with them even in front of cheesy ass low efficiency 860W CDM lamps, and only 30W per square foot at that!
The modules actually pull 224W apiece; the COBs each get 54W plus 8W in driver losses. 24 of them pull 5400W, just about exactly the same as 5 x 860W CDM lamps on magnetic ballasts. Did I mention they were cheesy ass inefficient?
By contrast, the COB LED chip in question, run at 50W, is apparently capable of 56% efficiency. With the very same trellis panels and the very same wattage draw, the chips will just about double the light shining on the plants.
Alaric
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Hey tty,
Sounds like a fun project. I haven't gotten into the "alternative lighting" thing yet----waiting till you guys get all the bugs worked out.
My question is:
Is there an alternative lighting method that produces the equivalent intensity and spectrum as a 1K hortilux HPS?
I've heard / read enough good things about those double ended lights-----but the heat thing is a large concern of mine.
Thanks for the summary,
A~~~
ttystikk
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Shit- they haven't worked ALL the bugs out of growing with HPS yet, either!
I'd say it's time to jump in.
Do to answer your question, yes LED can certainly match or best the performance of an HPS thouie for less watts. But, why would you want to emulate such a crappy spectrum? Most LED puts out a much better spectrum than HPS.
The heat signature of a DE bulb is legendary. That was enough for me to scratch it from the list of contenders outright. No excuse for that shit in the 21st century.