Petition banning "Crush" videos

GrowSpecialist

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I don't think someone should get in trouble for posting a link to it, as long as they very clearly explained where the link lead.

I would never watch some shit like that, but...we have a thread talking about recipes for CRACK...so...where do we draw the line?
I remember a thread about sex a while back. Links were posted to porn vids. The thread was closed. If links to sexual vids is considered inappropriate, then I can only assume that animal torture would be as well.
 

Johnny Retro

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OMG that's fucking WORSE! I'd have a hard time not killing the fucker.

I don't get how people could bring themselves to do that. I mean, I've thought about how people will drown a litter or puppies or kittens because thy think it's more merciful than letting them starve or whatever...but I've always known I could never bring myself to do it.

I could probably kill a person before I could kill an animal like that.
Agreed..think of what people have done to the world and think of what animals have done
Their just so damn innocent :sad:

Id love to be in the same room with one of those guys..maybe give them alittle taste of what their doin :fire:
 

GrowSpecialist

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Something I've been thinking throughout this entire thread...
What makes people believe that just because it's illegal, it will dissappear?
This is the internet. You can find a video of just about ANYTHING in under 10 minutes.
You're correct. It wouldn't disappear completely... but there would be LESS of it going on.
 

RIStoner

Active Member
Sorry Johnny, let me re-phrase so you can understand:

I never attack people unless they deserve it. and he my friend deserves it. The fact that you carry on about it is ridiculous. Does it really bother you that much?

I understand the fact that you don't agree with his views, I really do. But when you follow up with "you seem to know him", if you dig a little deeper and think about it, it's a contradiction. You don't agree with his views yet you defend him from attacks (rightly so, he deserves them) for his comments. Christ, I don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, you were done here because I'm a buzzkill, yet here you are posting away after the fact. That deserves the big :clap:
 

Wikidbchofthewst

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Sorry Johnny, let me re-phrase so you can understand:

I never attack people unless they deserve it. and he my friend deserves it. The fact that you carry on about it is ridiculous. Does it really bother you that much?

I understand the fact that you don't agree with his views, I really do. But when you follow up with "you seem to know him", if you dig a little deeper and think about it, it's a contradiction. You don't agree with his views yet you defend him from attacks (rightly so, he deserves them) for his comments. Christ, I don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, you were done here because I'm a buzzkill, yet here you are posting away after the fact. That deserves the big :clap:
Did I miss something? Who's him?
 

Louis541

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Sorry Johnny, let me re-phrase so you can understand:

I never attack people unless they deserve it. and he my friend deserves it. The fact that you carry on about it is ridiculous. Does it really bother you that much?

I understand the fact that you don't agree with his views, I really do. But when you follow up with "you seem to know him", if you dig a little deeper and think about it, it's a contradiction. You don't agree with his views yet you defend him from attacks (rightly so, he deserves them) for his comments. Christ, I don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, you were done here because I'm a buzzkill, yet here you are posting away after the fact. That deserves the big :clap:
Theres a little concept in the USA called freedom of speech.
Although, admittedly, it is dis-appearing a little more every day......
 

RIStoner

Active Member
See? Because of your above post now we're on the same page. Was that so hard? You agree that it's wrong. Do I need to go on?
 

RIStoner

Active Member
Your right Louis, there is freedom of speech. But just because your allowed to voice your opinion doesn't make it right.
 

Louis541

Well-Known Member
Why are you putting so much thought into him?

He said some asshole things. Probably just to get a rise out of people. How does that affect your personal life? He's not worth the effort your putting into it.
 

Johnny Retro

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Sorry Johnny, let me re-phrase so you can understand:

I never attack people unless they deserve it. and he my friend deserves it. The fact that you carry on about it is ridiculous. Does it really bother you that much?

I understand the fact that you don't agree with his views, I really do. But when you follow up with "you seem to know him", if you dig a little deeper and think about it, it's a contradiction. You don't agree with his views yet you defend him from attacks (rightly so, he deserves them) for his comments. Christ, I don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, you were done here because I'm a buzzkill, yet here you are posting away after the fact. That deserves the big :clap:
My buzz was killed so i came back..i had to respond to the ignorace
Id defend anyone if someone attacks them for their stance on things..so if you want to look at it that way, yes i was defending him.
If i told you i support our right to bear arms would you call me scum of the earth and a murder..even if i dont go hunting?
 

GrowSpecialist

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Is it really an epidemic? How many vids are there? I'd like to think are aren't 1000s of people stomping on kittens everyday....
Ok. regardless of whether it would disappear or not. Regardless of whether its an epidemic or not, its still a worthy fight. Shall we just sit back and let it happen simply because its a steep hill to climb?
 

Johnny Retro

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Your right Louis, there is freedom of speech. But just because your allowed to voice your opinion doesn't make it right.
It may not be right in YOUR eyes..but for someone eles it could be right, or not that big of a deal.
Obviously youve never learned what ethics and morals are
 

sandmonkey

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What's this world coming to? This is f'in awful :sad:

Call me a sociopath, but I feel way more sorry for animals than humans.

Hope The End of Time comes sooner rather than later...


And the 1st amendment is a load of shit. You can say/express yourself however you want, but you best believe there will be repercussions. For your words and actions carry a weight; even if you don't want to believe so. I hope all the sons of whores he think this is funny get what they deserve...
 

Louis541

Well-Known Member
Ok. regardless of whether it would disappear or not. Regardless of whether its an epidemic or not, its still a worthy fight. Shall we just sit back and let it happen simply because its a steep hill to climb?
Lol. I signed the stupid thing. Even though I'm 99% sure it's already illegal.

Care to find me the case? because I'm sure it was in the news somewhere, especially if it was found legal.
 

GrowSpecialist

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Lol. I signed the stupid thing. Even though I'm 99% sure it's already illegal.

Care to find me the case? because I'm sure it was in the news somewhere, especially if it was found legal.
It is NOT illegal to post videos of animal cruelty. Its illegal of course to actually DO IT... but having the right to post the videos for their shock value just perpetuates this depraved activity.

I'm not sure its possible to "post the case". If you want to know more about it... or try to confirm it as a part of our reality... then just Google around. You'll find plenty of info on it... and surely, all of these articles can't be part of some elaborate hoax. Heres a link that might help you believe...

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2009/01/07/absurd-supreme-court-challenge-on-animal-cruelty.html
 
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