PH rise, EC rise, less water usage

Skybound420

Skybound420

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Here's the guy that taught me most of what I know about growing, and "Simple Hydroponics" nixes all of the liability that you all are dealing with. I've yet to experience a root problem for the first time in about 4-5 years of growing, My plants all do well in rockwool and grow retardedly fast. I wouldn't go so far as to say DWC fast, but definitely a close second. I could grow without using bennies and be just fine, but I choose to use them because the materials are easy to locate and the teas increase overall performance, plus are very helpful for cloning.

I'm not trying to convert anybody or anything, but if you have a few hours to digest new material, I bet you could transpose a lot of these principles into your preferred grow media. My only argument for using rockwool croutons of any size is that potted plants sit in open air, the space between the cubes holds that air, all while the cubes hold nute water. You have the best of all worlds at all times.

https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/how-to-simple-hydroponics.190831/
 
Skybound420

Skybound420

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I've made every mistake new growers make at least 20 times per each mistake, so you can bet your last dollar on me forgetting to turn a pump timer back on or anything else that involves forgetting to feed a mid bloom plant for 2 days, yet the worst that I've done was some minor leaf wilt. The Capn showed me the ropes with GH, and I used that line for years, but recently switched lanes to mixing my own nutrient concentrates from salts so that I can better target individual elements, N, P, K, Ca, Mg, S, Fe and Mn. Having the ability to virtually modify the feed according to the stage of growth enables me to get the best growth by offering the most ideal feed based on known needs. Still a lot of dialing in and searching for more salts to have a wider diversity of options, but I'm still light years ahead of GH already, at least from the perspective of a cannabis plant.
 
baaael

baaael

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shawnery said:
Good points about root concern although I don't know enough to interact on this exact subject. I will say this though,

Root damage or to much root stress can be the determining factor on whether or not your plants succumb to root rot or other bacteria pr pathogens. Of they are getting to dry that would be a cause right there.

The fact that some of your roots are always in water should stop over drying though, no?
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yes but untill his roots hit the water theyre not in water is what i was thinking and that may have been a factor leading up to this point for him
 
foliage2018

foliage2018

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Hello guys,
Some news and a question.

News:
Buds are still developing, today I found amber stigma trichomes on lower buds. Buds are hard inside and sticky. It doesn't look bad except for the leaves.

Q:
How much can hydroponics decrease the flowering period if even?IMG_20181229_1442037.jpg
 
Skybound420

Skybound420

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In my experience, hydro increases weight and production, but doesn't decrease finishing time. To decrease that, the only lea I have is to look into the Emerson Effect that uses far red LEDs for like 10 minutes each night when the main lighting fixture powers down. This alledges that the far red triggers hormones in the plant that puts them to sleep quicker which then translates to a shorter finish time.

https://www.rapidled.com/emerson-effect-booster-board/
 
foliage2018

foliage2018

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Interesting... I am using this lamp. It has not enough far red intensity, but it might have some at least.
The reason why I asked was the fact that this model grown in coco showed first signs of buds two days later than this time in hydroponics. The same with grow in height (it stopped another two days earlier).

I found a basic microscope at home so I will check those white little trichomes.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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Skybound420 said:
In my experience, hydro increases weight and production, but doesn't decrease finishing time. To decrease that, the only lea I have is to look into the Emerson Effect that uses far red LEDs for like 10 minutes each night when the main lighting fixture powers down. This alledges that the far red triggers hormones in the plant that puts them to sleep quicker which then translates to a shorter finish time.

https://www.rapidled.com/emerson-effect-booster-board/
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the Emerson effect is based on exposing plants to light of 680nm and higher than 680nm at the same time to increase photosynthesis.

i'm not sure of the correct name for what you are talking about but the theory behind it is that you can give plants less than 12hrs of darkness and they will still flower since they "go to sleep" faster with the 710nm exposure after lights off.
 
foliage2018

foliage2018

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My friend is going to attend CES2019 in Las Vegas. It is perfect moment to buy some US products not available on the EU market.
As 1gal of Hydroguard is quite heavy and suspicious to transport by an airplane, I was finding some alternative. As someone wrote it in this thread, I found Southern AG GFF. Is it possible to buy it in hydrostores or growshops around LV? Does it have any expiry date? Could be safe to buy it from Amazon?
 
Skybound420

Skybound420

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rkymtnman said:
the Emerson effect is based on exposing plants to light of 680nm and higher than 680nm at the same time to increase photosynthesis.

i'm not sure of the correct name for what you are talking about but the theory behind it is that you can give plants less than 12hrs of darkness and they will still flower since they "go to sleep" faster with the 710nm exposure after lights off.
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That about sums it up except I've read that under traditional lighting fixtures we use that it takes a few hours more each night to get to sleep so even if we give them 12 hours of darkness, they only get a lower number of hours of actual sleep. IDK if it was on GreenGene's garden, or maybe GrowMAU5, but one of them channels discussed this theory at greater length and obviously with more than a "I think I read" type of response that you're now reading, lol.

As to finishing times, I chopped my Triple Cheese like a week early about about half of the pistils were still green. Perhaps the Skunk1 strains have thier pistils finish dead last?
 
Skybound420

Skybound420

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foliage2018 said:
My friend is going to attend CES2019 in Las Vegas. It is perfect moment to buy some US products not available on the EU market.
As 1gal of Hydroguard is quite heavy and suspicious to transport by an airplane, I was finding some alternative. As someone wrote it in this thread, I found Southern AG GFF. Is it possible to buy it in hydrostores or growshops around LV? Does it have any expiry date? Could be safe to buy it from Amazon?
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I actually just threw out a bottle 8 months after expiration. My local hydro shop no longer caries Botanicare so I'd have to order it online if I were to keep using it. I've since made the executive decision to discontinue using it as it only has one ingredient that I found in another product.

Bacillus amyloliquefaciens

That said, for you growers across the pond or elsewhere, rather than trying to locate brands, I suggest researching what's in them bottles and try to find the raw materials locally if possible.
 
foliage2018

foliage2018

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Skybound420 said:
I actually just threw out a bottle 8 months after expiration. My local hydro shop no longer caries Botanicare so I'd have to order it online if I were to keep using it. I've since made the executive decision to discontinue using it as it only has one ingredient that I found in another product.

Bacillus amyloliquefaciens

That said, for you growers across the pond or elsewhere, rather than trying to locate brands, I suggest researching what's in them bottles and try to find the raw materials locally if possible.
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I tried to find that bacteria, but I successfully found AN products only (Voodoo juice, Piranha, Tarantula).
 
foliage2018

foliage2018

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Soooooo... I already have results. 0,9g/W. 57g/plant dried in average. It's 10% less than I had with this strain before in Autopots (coco/ton).

For the next grow I bought that GFF and I'm going to buy new faster water pumps to shorten the F&D cycle to a half.

And again - thank you all guys! You saved my crop!
 
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