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wow i didnt know that they were in 3.9 gallon buckets! there is no way they are root bound. have you flushed them at all? could be a build up of salts.

im guessing your problem is a few things. if you havnt flushed then do that. if they are in 3+gallons of dirt there should be no root bound whatsoever. put them into a 18/6 lightcycle so you can get some lateral growth out of the plant and branches. they look healthy so i wouldnt worry tooo much.

JSmiths said:

The plants were lined up 2 rows of 3 when they were in the cups. Like this:

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...with a single incandescent 100W bulb hanging in the middle. I always rotated the cups, but the plants grew at different speeds.

Should I put up 4 walls of reflective material for light reflection and temperature control?

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it definetly cant help. i put up some card board posters covered in foil (lol!) no harm has come from them yet i think.

I tried 18/6 one day and I switched back to 24/0 because the plants were sooooo droopy when the lights came back on that I decided to stick to 24/0.

Do plants really need to so-called "breath"? I've heard people saying they vegged faster with a constant light source. Your results?

Antman said:

The pictures that you posted don't look like 3.9 gallon pots to me. Are those the most recent pics of your plants or is that before you put them into the bigger pots? Not only that, but it looks like the plants are down half way into their respective containers. Looks like you could pull the plants out of the pots, put like 4-6 more inches of dirt into the pots and then place the plants back in the pots. No sense having a 1 gallon pot(or 3.9 gal) and only filling it half way with dirt. One other thing, the dirt in the rectangular pot looks pretty dry. Looks like it needs some wa-wa. The 18/6 light cycle will help too. I don't go for the whole 24 hr on cycle. The whole idea of growing, to me anyway, is to copy the plants NATURAL environment. Plants collect the suns(or your growlights) energy during the day, and use it to make sugars and whatever else the plant needs to grow at night. I guess the 24 hr. thing works for ppl, but that's not the way nature intended it to be. And what is the real purpose behind it anyway? To cut grow times down? What are you really gaining, a week less in veg? Plus it jacks the shit outta your electric bill. Just the way I see it.

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hey man i agree with you on all that!!

the general reason for 24 hr till flower is that some growers have experienced yield booms from it. it stores all the sugars till flowering and then explodes with growth. mind you when you turn it from 24 to 12/12 it comes as kindof a shock... thats why i wouldnt do it. it stalls the plants that take it ok and dont even get shocked too bad 2 to 3 weeks to start the flowering cycle, its kinda confusing, like you said its just not the natural way. 24 for 2 months... then 12 for 2 months... but it takes the flowering cycle 2 more weeks than regular plants to start the flowering proccess.... but they get bigger? i guess it works for monser buds in some cases... not for me tho...

Whew, for a minute there I thought I had to show what a rootbound plant really looks like.

Here is my rootbound plant anyway now that I took it out and snapped a pic, the poor abused girl:

you can try it.

remember, you grew your plants, you are god to them. you know them better than anyone so obviosly every desition is up to you, do what you know is best for your plants. dont make desitions just because we say to, the important thing is that you know your plants are healthy.

i would give them 4 more weeks, massage the soil, flush if you havnt and just give them time. they know what they are doing. you just have to give them what they need to do it.

OregonMeds said:

Whew, for a minute there I thought I had to show what a rootbound plant really looks like.

Here is my rootbound plant anyway now that I took it out and snapped a pic, the poor abused girl:

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what medium is that you are using? and root bound plants can still be healthy! they just wont grow to be a tree... i think shes beautyful man!

The soil is brand new. Why flush it?

some soils come with too strong of fertilizers in the soil.

Glassfreak

You are seeing sand on top of dirt to control fungus gnats.

She looks horrible up close, trust me.

why dont you throw her into a bigger pot??

Mother plant

whens cloning time?

meds

thanks man i thought so! i thought it was all just sand tho. i heard you can just grow in sand and it will be a form of hydroponics. ever heard of that?

thats what i do. keep it as a short little momy so you can take a few every couple months and not have a damn bush in your house...

how old is your mother meds? have you taken from it a few times already?

Update:

Thanks everyone for your advice.

I switched to 18/6 and saw considerable growth in just 8 days, more than 24/0. I'm a believer now.

On the first of January, I switched to 12/12.

Here are pictures as of last night...

1. Three of the four remaining plants

2. My best plant separated from the rest because...



3. ...it's a male.



4. My second best plant. I transplanted it from a 3.9 gal. to a 6.1 gal. bucket. It was very rooted at the bottom.



5. It's a female. White pubis.



6. A nice view from the top.




7. My other two plants in the same planter.



8. Sex undetermined. Something's starting to show, though.




I've already gotten rid of the male plant.

My old high school football field had a nice present planted on the 50-yard line about 20 minutes ago


Quetions:

I'm going to need to transplant the two plants separately. What's the best way to do this?

I'm sure the roots might be a little tangled in the middle. Can I just cut the soil with a big knife and transplant into a larger square-shaped container? Or will that just damage the plants?

I can see the roots coming out of the the drip holes at the bottom already.

JSmiths said:

I'm sure the roots might be a little tangled in the middle. Can I just cut the soil with a big knife and transplant into a larger square-shaped container? Or will that just damage the plants?

I can see the roots coming out of the the drip holes at the bottom already.

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You can cut some of the roots off if you want, but it will slow down growth for a few days. You should repot fast, roots coming our of the drip holes is a sign of impending root lock.

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SHOTTY6868 said:

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I get it... you're high. Sorry dude, didn't understand anything you just tried to say...