Plasma is the Future of growing!

with the cool tube and everything included $950, at least until the price comes down for me and I'm a player in the market. (the computer interface connection is $100 more I think.) It was a big commitment and yes I am investing everything, but man oh man.
 
thats expensive and what you mean by computer interface? you can control them through computers? that would be sick and would it be mac compatible?
 
atxbudgrower said:
thats expensive and what you mean by computer interface? you can control them through computers? that would be sick and would it be mac compatible?
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That's one of the best parts...imagine this. The Solid State Plasma Light Source can be controlled via computer and yes Mac compatible and it is dim-able down to 20%. If the computer has the software and the link cable it could be monitoring the heat of the grow area and if something causes it to suddenly get hot with no other recourse it could dim the light to compensate for the heat!!!! The light doesn't go off, it just gets dimmer. Imagine the disasters that could have been avoided.

The cool part is, I don't think Luxim even knows that. I didn't hear them say that in the phone conversations. They have all the components to make the best high tech growing systems in the world and even they don't know it's full potential.

If I where Luxim, (or I may do it myself) I would make a thermal detection unit 'built in' using the already provided simple interface with a laser type temp sensor. You could have a laser guide for it (like the hand held models) to show exactly where it's aiming and have it dim the light if the area being aimed at (tops of plants) goes above the adjustable set temp (78 F). I already worked on a similar project for an HID hood auto adjuster. I was using the fuzzy logic module for the Harvest Master to adjust the height of the reflector automatically to keep the top's in the sweet spot because the point is for them to stay there (in the sweet spot) but they grow!. After actually accomplishing the task successfully, I realized there was a much easier (and cheaper) way of doing it. I'm working on the patent on that one so stay tuned.

Fuzzy Logic interface, set parameters and dimensions and forget it!
 
Am I the only one that think its funny.
That you joined this forum just to sell your light's.
And spam us with other site links.
Did you read the rules.
 
If someone has a smarter idea than you, and they are willing to share their information with you for free before going off to make millions with it, why would you complain? I'm thinking since it's actually in the Beta stage this is the perfect forum to get the word out. If I'm wrong then I'll take my toys and play with my other friends. Sincerely Plasmargon
 
These bulbs are extremely hot(they can melt themselves!), and produce tons of unusable light, just like the sun(roughly only 25% plant-usable/PUR/PAR). They were created back in the early 90's and were deemed a commercial failure.. still in the 90'S.

LEDs are clearly the future of lighting for quite a foreseeable time. They have the highest luminous efficiency(while still producing good light, sorry LPS), and are 'tunable' to various wavelengths. Plus they are the most directional light source(normal bulb radiates 360 degrees, an LED is less than half of that).
 
TeaTreeOil said:
These bulbs are extremely hot(they can melt themselves!), and produce tons of unusable light, just like the sun(roughly only 25% plant-usable/PUR/PAR). They were created back in the early 90's and were deemed a commercial failure.. still in the 90'S.

LEDs are clearly the future of lighting for quite a foreseeable time. They have the highest luminous efficiency(while still producing good light, sorry LPS), and are 'tunable' to various wavelengths. Plus they are the most directional light source(normal bulb radiates 360 degrees, an LED is less than half of that).
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This a completely different breed of plasma lighting THERE ARE NO MOVING PARTS TO COME APART! (please read opening post thoroughly)

the problem with LED is it's limitation of power output how many LED's do want in your bank is the question to watt output because you don;t see them making 700watt LED's. One point source as opposed to a bank 2 foot by 4 foot long?

May I share where I agree with you though?

Imagine this; To build an LED fixture the ideal situation is to have at least a three to one ratio of Red to Blue correct?

Well imagine having at least double the wattage of Red LED (500 watts) and one 250 watt plasma Light Source as a foundation covering all the frequencies not covered by the couple of banks of wide coverage high output red and far red LED's. To my scientific mind there could be no better combination. This way it reaches a higher PAR rating by amplifying the red on TOP of the foundation that's perfect for the Veg cycle (including the perfect amount of red) This way the supplementation accentuates the foundation instead of having only two points of the whole chromatic spectrum represented have them all.

The Ideal set up for this scenario is having the PLS in the middle and the Red LED's on the sides of the grow environment. They say soon, with the upgrades being made to the PLS system there will be no need of supplementation but I think they may be wrong since the ideal amount of red is far higher than any single driver can produce.
 
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The problem is it peaks at 500-600 nm... basically sea-green to yellow. See attachment. The green grid and graph is a basic photosynthetic spectral response. The plasma bulb hits neither of the peaks with its peak... and peaks in the valley of the plant curve.

Halogens can do a very similar spectrum, basically.
 

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plasmargon said:
If someone has a smarter idea than you, and they are willing to share their information with you for free before going off to make millions with it, why would you complain? I'm thinking since it's actually in the Beta stage this is the perfect forum to get the word out. If I'm wrong then I'll take my toys and play with my other friends. Sincerely Plasmargon
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Right now it's all talk and hype. I've seen this many times before in the computer/internet business. It's all hype until there's an actual producing product. More often then not the reality fell way short of the hype/fantasy (can you say Windows Vista?) and many products failed in the real marketplace.

Show us the working product and we'll show you the money.

I think you are a bit premature in your "advertising" of the PLS. Wait until it's out of beta, or let some of us beta test. We'll be honest without the hype. If they are as good as you say they are we'll buy them if/when they actually work.
 
i dont like change. that light in the link looks crazy, and white not red. i agrree with
you grow boy. i remember being a kid and my dad lost or spent too much money on useless or to hyped up technology that fails. i hope no one is too invested in this plasma shennanigans. Thank you for trying to share your ideas though, plasmargon
 
TeaTreeOil said:
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The problem is it peaks at 500-600 nm... basically sea-green to yellow. See attachment. The green grid and graph is a basic photosynthetic spectral response. The plasma bulb hits neither of the peaks with its peak... and peaks in the valley of the plant curve.

Halogens can do a very similar spectrum, basically.
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Finally someone looking into matter logically, Ok, first of all you are showing a graph from the old Sulfur Plasma system or MPS as it was called.

PLS is a completely different animal.

http://www.lifi.com/dynamic/pdfs/ProductBulletinLIFI-STA-40Series-19June2009.pdf
 

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I dig the numbers on the PDF.

Is there a patent for your working unit?
If so, show us some flicks of it already.

EDIT: By "working unit" I meant the PLS
Lighting system he's built.
 
The more I look at it the more I like it. I like the way you can distribute the light with 'pipes'. The Lamp can be in a totally different room to the plants, while allowing you to deliver light in a very targeted and modular fashion, much the same as hanging lights in/amongst/on the sides of plants, but with next to no heat emission.
 
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The more I look at it the more I like it. I like the way you can distribute the light with 'pipes'. The Lamp can be in a totally different room to the plants, while allowing you to deliver light in a very targeted and modular fashion, much the same as hanging lights in/amongst/on the sides of plants, but with next to no heat emission.
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Here it comes!~ The age of light without heat! hehehehe.
 
Has NE1 heard of OLEDS I believe that's the future of indoor gardenings. SP lights look like an awesome new tech aswell. Can't wait for something better and more efficient without heat issues and wasted luminens of HPS lights
 
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