Please HELP DIAGNOSE my DYING NL PLANTS!
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smokeybandit22
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nah bro leave them. they still have alot of juice in them that the plant will need for reserves. she doesnt put much energy into mainting them more like the opposite. That little baby yellow you can just clip right off.
Poon69
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ok so I haven't updated this post in a while seing as my plants were really not picking up at all, with the exception of 1. This was after I nuted them with half strength ionic grow. It was doing really well and got real perky again whilst all the others were still drooping like a mother fucker. The newer leaves on the others however were looking alot more green rather than having the large red stripes through them.
ANYWAY... I let them dry really thoroughly for 4 days until the leaves on the perky one started drooping a lil this morning. I gave them more of the nuted mix, but was really careful to not give them too much! I reckon about 1.5-2L between all of them. Maybe 300-400mill each around midday (5hrs ago) and checked this evening and THEY ARE ALL PICKING UP!! The lower fan leaves on all others are really trying to raise upward and the higher ones, whilst still dropping a lil, have raised ALOT.
I reckon the transplant to the new soil (some super-duper advanced grow shit) fucked em up good n proper (as it burnt tips on several lower leaves) but I fixed this by transplanting back to the old nute-free soil. BUT,.. I reckon I must have seriously overwatered them then. I gave em a good 2L each and I think they just couldn't handle it. The one that picked up well was the one left by the open cupboard door and consequently dries quicker. I also think they had N, P & K deficiencies shown by the red stems and this was because they were dying for food after going back into the nute-free soil and being flushed with 2L.
Anyway, I guess the point of this post is for anyone in my position to just be really careful about how you diagnose your plants and mainly WITH WATERING. I'm quite sure the strong-nute soil started all of this, but I made it spiral out of control briefly by trying to flush etc. and then over-watering in my attempt to bring them back to life. I think it all could have been avoided had I watered more carefully and realised the deficiencies earlier!! Let this be a lesson to anyone in my position. Patience is the key!
ANYWAY... I let them dry really thoroughly for 4 days until the leaves on the perky one started drooping a lil this morning. I gave them more of the nuted mix, but was really careful to not give them too much! I reckon about 1.5-2L between all of them. Maybe 300-400mill each around midday (5hrs ago) and checked this evening and THEY ARE ALL PICKING UP!! The lower fan leaves on all others are really trying to raise upward and the higher ones, whilst still dropping a lil, have raised ALOT.
I reckon the transplant to the new soil (some super-duper advanced grow shit) fucked em up good n proper (as it burnt tips on several lower leaves) but I fixed this by transplanting back to the old nute-free soil. BUT,.. I reckon I must have seriously overwatered them then. I gave em a good 2L each and I think they just couldn't handle it. The one that picked up well was the one left by the open cupboard door and consequently dries quicker. I also think they had N, P & K deficiencies shown by the red stems and this was because they were dying for food after going back into the nute-free soil and being flushed with 2L.
Anyway, I guess the point of this post is for anyone in my position to just be really careful about how you diagnose your plants and mainly WITH WATERING. I'm quite sure the strong-nute soil started all of this, but I made it spiral out of control briefly by trying to flush etc. and then over-watering in my attempt to bring them back to life. I think it all could have been avoided had I watered more carefully and realised the deficiencies earlier!! Let this be a lesson to anyone in my position. Patience is the key!
Poon69
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Here's a couple of pics of how they WERE looking. 1st pic is from the 6th Nov and shows them drooping pretty bad, 2nd pic is from this morning (10th) and I only just realised clearly shows how much they have grown.
The 3rd pic shows how the leaves have started to fan again this evening after the small watering. And the 4th pic shows the crazy branching inside! I'm pretty pleased with how they're coming on now!
The 3rd pic shows how the leaves have started to fan again this evening after the small watering. And the 4th pic shows the crazy branching inside! I'm pretty pleased with how they're coming on now!
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smoke and coke
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looking good. your on the right track now. keep us posted
morrisgreenberg
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i totally agree, heres a thought what out of many similar opinions, one person told me to FLUSH, yet mix my flush with my nutes at 1/4 strength, i had a K def from lock out and it worked perfectly, granted i had flushed with fresh water only...what do u guys think? 1/4 strength flush?
Poon69
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I flushed with plain water, that had been ph'd to around 6.8. But they still flopped bad. It was only when I gave them nutes AFTER the flush with a small amount of water that they picked up again. Presumably because the flush worked and got rid of all food. as for flushing WITH nutes,.. wouldn't that just be a waste of nutes? as the majority is gonna pour out the bottom of your pot. I'm gonna stick to plain water if I ever need to do it again then feed after as I presume the soil can only hold so much water. I don't want my nutes all over the floor lol.