Please Help me with cloning???

is there a possibility to take my plant in to flowering to see if it is a female and if it is just to use it as a mother clone and make it vege again and leave it that way to be a mother plant never to be flowered, or to be flowered latter ,much later?

Your rushing, where you just can't. You said it yourself, your whole plant is the size of what you should be cutting off. There is no real choice right now but to let it grow. Once it's big enough, get two or three clippings from it, and label them so you know where they came from if you have multiple plants. Once you know the clippings are rooted, and going to survive, send the parent to flower. If it turns out to be male, scrap it and all the kids. If it's female, let it continue to flower so you get some experience with that stage, and let one of the three kids grow to be your mother (flower the other two). That will give you at least some product sooner.

eside said:

thats like all of my plant .. mine is 6 week old i would have to wait 6 more weeks just to get close to that...i afraid i dont have that much time ,space and plant to do a cuting by the book , i have to improvise , my grow is under 6ow CFL, urs its under MH if im not wrong... i would like to have that light of urs but ill have to wait a litle more for that

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It's still to small to cut on do u even know if it's female? And no it's under t5s

eside said:

just whant to thank u all guys on ur inputs uve been more than helpful ,keep it coming, we have to clone this little plant of mine soon ,in a week or so, we have a mission , looks like mission impossible but its still our mission, we will do it ,one way or another there will be clones soon

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I guess ur not getting the point u came to ask for help and we tell u and ur still going to clone that little fucker so go right ahead and report back on how ur idea went to shit and u should of just waited ,,,,THANKS TO ALL WHO HELPED BUT FUCK U IME DOING IT ANYWAYS LOL jk

Will bet u 16 clones u say fuck I fucked up and chopped all my plant to hell and now I have one hacked plant and bunch of dead babies

method2mymadness said:

Ur plant is to small to clone do u even know the sex of it yet?u need to at least let it sex itself and get way bigger .........and that Ime guessing co2 contraption really isn't doing any good there is no way it can raise the ppm of that room to be effective just my 2 cents

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im pretty sure one should clone the plants before they show sex ,that is before flowering cuz u dont want ur clone to flower u need it to vege then flower....

method2mymadness said:

I guess ur not getting the point u came to ask for help and we tell u and ur still going to clone that little fucker so go right ahead and report back on how ur idea went to shit and u should of just waited ,,,,THANKS TO ALL WHO HELPED BUT FUCK U IME DOING IT ANYWAYS LOL jk

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its not like that , my question was not should i clone my plant but how to clone it? Get it ,ppl who say dont clone it are wright ,i shouldn't but ppl who say let it grow...to them i say where should i let them grow ,i have no space m8 , u think i dont like to see a big plant , man i would like to have a big plant too but i have no space ,i have 10-15 more centimeters till it reaches light , i must clone it man, ill wait till i can and then it needs to go to flowering and before that it must be cloned ...get it ,im not being ignorant bastard here , im doing this cloning shit cuz im forced to not cuz i want to do it

eside said:

im pretty sure one should clone the plants before they show sex ,that is before flowering cuz u dont want ur clone to flower u need it to vege then flower....

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U can but most dnt they wait till it shows sex then clone it......a plant doesn't have to flower to show sex it will in vedge

MillieCHO said:

i read this one thread where this guy cloned only using a cup of water and it worked for him. i never tried it or ever tried cloning my self. im on my first grow as well. im just giving out the knowledge ive accumulated from my research. lol

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You end up with a mildewy clone more often than not...so I would not advise...lol

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Tribalbandit said:

YOUTUBE: JORGE CERVANTES check out his grow dvds. I love his dvds. The basics is all there easy and in simple english

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ive already watched every clip on u tube about weed if its longer then 20 min..used google to search vids longer then 20 minutes and watched them all ,now im downloading a torrent with eBooks on weed...somewhat 10 of them and im gonna print it and read every single one of them ... just both a thermometar to check the temp of my grow box , its 72F , i gues its a bit low but im gonna add more CFLs in tomorrow , i now have 1 45w 6400K and one 20w 2700K ,tomorrow ill add another 60 or 50w 6400K , or should i go for 2 0r 3 of 20w ,what is better? Maybe more light will increase temp on 75F

method2mymadness said:

U can but most dnt they wait till it shows sex then clone it......a plant doesn't have to flower to show sex it will in vedge

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are u experienced grower? Can u tell me do u think plant will show its white hair before it flowers, or u think of some other method of knowing the sex , i know about white hair stuff but if u think something different pls fill me up, a frend grower told me one can determine sex before flower but he wast specific on the method?

this is an update on my plant and new grow box , im glad to say that she looks happier here. Does she looks ok ,healthy ?

Yes I am experienced, with seedlings they will start showing sex before flower I have a seedling that's 3 foot tall showing sex and has never Ben flowered along with the rest of my tga seeds wnt clone them till they show sex either. And ya u can flower it and revenge it to find sex but takes just as long as u just waiting for it to show sex

method2mymadness said:

Yes I am experienced, with seedlings they will start showing sex before flower I have a seedling that's 3 foot tall showing sex and has never Ben flowered along with the rest of my tga seeds wnt clone them till they show sex either. And ya u can flower it and revenge it to find sex but takes just as long as u just waiting for it to show sex

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Thank u m8 for the info but i didnt get how u determine sex of still vegging plant ,does it show white hairs or something else? Mine is a seedling too and its about 20 centimeter tall ,mine grow space is about 3 foot so ill know the sex when she fills the grow box. How much time do u think she will need to grow from 20cm to 90cm...or from about a foot to 3 foot in my grow conditions which are 2 x 45W CFL 6400K rated to 3000 lumens and one 20W CFL 2700K rated to about 1500 lumens, about 10 000 lumens combined, i have a fertilizer too 8.4.4 ...temp is 75F or 24-25C in 1.5 galon pot, i water with rain water cuz i have no PH meter or 1-2 days old tap water

It just happens u,will c at the nodes a small white v shaped hairs will appear u can't miss it or a sack will appear with no hair wich would be male willo get some pics just google how to tell if my cannabis plant is a female and should bring up some pics

method2mymadness said:

It just happens u,will c at the nodes a small white v shaped hairs will appear u can't miss it or a sack will appear with no hair wich would be male willo get some pics just google how to tell if my cannabis plant is a female and should bring up some pics

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yes i know of that , im reading this book and u wont believe the only thing new ive learned ,and ive read the whole book, is that every next node on the plant has more leaflets on it , mine is now on 6 leaflets, has another node with 5 leaflets leafs above it but know i know that will go up to 7 eventually and another node above that which is a new one. In the book ive red that there is a 9 leaflet leaf above that and after that its flowering time, if grower chooses so. Am i getting this wright?

No, in my opinion, when growing from seed the earliest time to consider flowering is when the nodes become 'Alternate' and not 'Opposite'. You get pre-flower etc but that doesn't mean it's ready.
That is your best indication of when the plant is ready for flowering. It signifies sexual maturity and the timing varies between cultivars. Flowering beforehand will severely cut your crop.
I have no idea why this seems to be such a guarded secret.
Growing from clones, however, is a totally different ball game as the plants will already be 'genetically mature' and producing alernating nodes from day 1. You can flower when you like.
Also, much depends on your light/ veg time allowed etc.

cues said:

No, in my opinion, when growing from seed the earliest time to consider flowering is when the nodes become 'Alternate' and not 'Opposite'. You get pre-flower etc but that doesn't mean it's ready.
That is your best indication of when the plant is ready for flowering. It signifies sexual maturity and the timing varies between cultivars. Flowering beforehand will severely cut your crop.
I have no idea why this seems to be such a guarded secret.
Growing from clones, however, is a totally different ball game as the plants will already be 'genetically mature' and producing alernating nodes from day 1. You can flower when you like.
Also, much depends on your light/ veg time allowed etc.

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^^^
This info is accurate and true, alternating nodes indicate " mature plant" when you plant a clone it will grow alternating nodes right off the bat because it's a clone and shares the same characteristics as it's mother.

cues said:

No, in my opinion, when growing from seed the earliest time to consider flowering is when the nodes become 'Alternate' and not 'Opposite'. You get pre-flower etc but that doesn't mean it's ready.
That is your best indication of when the plant is ready for flowering. It signifies sexual maturity and the timing varies between cultivars. Flowering beforehand will severely cut your crop.
I have no idea why this seems to be such a guarded secret.
Growing from clones, however, is a totally different ball game as the plants will already be 'genetically mature' and producing alernating nodes from day 1. You can flower when you like.
Also, much depends on your light/ veg time allowed etc.

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thats my m8 ,thank u that is a kind of info i was looking for. My girl is in pre flower faze , i noticed the smell is getting stronger ,already whole apartment smells like someones armpit ant its not mine has a flowery aroma but still an armpit smell hahah on the lost opposite node it has 9 leaflets and the top one is full of something which i think is 11 leaflets leaf ,two of them, and i think she is going to start alternating nodes,maybe wrong here. Should i higher the fertilizer dosage , i think by the yellowing of the lowest (first true node) she is telling me that she needs more nitrogen, ill get u guys some pics tonight or maybe now. She is big inuf for me to judge the strain ,it is a indica dominant cross which is nice small plant with big yeald is what i was hopping for , i noticed a ball with V shaped hairs coming out of it , but its not white so i gues its just another side branch, ill try to get a picture of that to, here are the pics now so u can see

Tell me what u think guys ,on first img is her with her 3 sisters from a friend grower ,i got them yesterday from my friend who gave me the biggest one to ,just before a month ago and now he gave me these 3 smaller plants, u can clearly see who is a better grower, smaller were on the natural light , one under spotlight is the one we were talking about. Do u think i should just kill the other 3 plants cuz they are 8 week old at least and look at them ,they look like shit but its not cuz of me ,i got the yesterday.