Please Ipban me or tell me what went wrong

I feel like you are treating the forums like a business. Instead of treating it like a forum.

Who made you project manager?

Also, ninjabowler is a good source of info for newbies and friends. To ban him because he doesn't agree with you is just plain dumb.

Go play CEO somewhere else.

Flaming Pie said:

Also, ninjabowler is a good source of info for newbies and friends. To ban him because he doesn't agree with you is just plain dumb.
Go play CEO somewhere else.

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Lol, Donald Trump ~ You're Fired ! ~
Ninja ~How about screw you instead ~

Lol, please quit playing internet psychologist when all your info is wrong. Done replying to you as your part of the problem not the solution. Feel free to keep bitching about trying to make this a better place.

Silicity said:

... Feel free to keep bitching about trying to make this a better place.

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Oooh! That is sig-worthy.

rollitup said:

Oooh! That is sig-worthy.

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Is It possible we could have the other thread reopened for discussion? It is a topic that can be discussed and overall it could let staff know how members feel about this.

When I first joined RIU, I kept to the grow sections - most people were pleasant and helpful. Then I started splashing around in T&T and I admit, the waters can get a bit choppy, but it's all in good fun for the most part. I dipped my toe into the Politics section and quickly realized that was not the place for me. It took some trial and error but I found the sections, and members, I was most comfortable with.

There are other forums and they're not all built the same. The one I spend the most time on now is all rainbows and lollipops, but you know, there have been a couple of people complain that it is too nice over there. It just goes to show that you really cannot please everyone all the time.

I guess what I'm saying is that rather than join a forum and expect it to conform to you, perhaps you should find one that suits you to begin with. Trying to change the atmosphere of any forum, especially one as large as RIU, is pointless. Deal with it or bust out, yanno?

As for trolls and flamers - ignore them. They are looking for a reaction and if you don't give it to them they will become bored and wander away in search of easier prey.

Sorry for all the water analogies, btw. It's almost spring and I'm in serious need of some beach time.

Kronika said:

When I first joined RIU, I kept to the grow sections - most people were pleasant and helpful. Then I started splashing around in T&T and I admit, the waters can get a bit choppy, but it's all in good fun for the most part. I dipped my toe into the Politics section and quickly realized that was not the place for me. It took some trial and error but I found the sections, and members, I was most comfortable with.

There are other forums and they're not all built the same. The one I spend the most time on now is all rainbows and lollipops, but you know, there have been a couple of people complain that it is too nice over there. It just goes to show that you really cannot please everyone all the time.

I guess what I'm saying is that rather than join a forum and expect it to conform to you, perhaps you should find one that suits you to begin with. Trying to change the atmosphere of any forum, especially one as large as RIU, is pointless. Deal with it or bust out, yanno?

As for trolls and flamers - ignore them. They are looking for a reaction and if you don't give it to them they will become bored and wander away in search of easier prey.

Sorry for all the water analogies, btw. It's almost spring and I'm in serious need of some beach time.

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Good post, good information. I am not trying to do a complete overhau, and make it a communist forums to where were all butt buddies, I see staff acting very immature to people and partake in flame, itd be nice if they were told to chill out atleast and like krondizzle says some staff wont let things go and they'll have a vendetta for that person. The worser people that keep posting terrible shit over and over to even staff can be controlled a little better, not saying person to person but I see staff instead of deleting posts and such they will partake in the flame and it just keeps instigating and quite a few threads always go off course. We could have more active staff, there are people suitable for the position and I understand our admins are busy but over time if we could have fresh staff that are more active, possibly give them a trial period for a few months or whatever amount, and if they had proven suitable to the upper staff they might be able to get banning power of say that person from either the forums or that specific section. Theres a lot we can do and not have the forums be totally communist.

Silicity said:

Lol, please quit playing internet psychologist when all your info is wrong. Done replying to you as your part of the problem not the solution. Feel free to keep bitching about trying to make this a better place.

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Just as you say you don't see many people disagreeing with you, I don't see many people waving the protest sign along side you.

i reopened the thread ONLY because i had somethign very useful to contribute, i have an IT background and i regulary build robots and circuits, Im trying to code Arduino as we speak so my robot stop attacking my partner, Trying to build a proximity security robot with a taser on it. Videos will come.

But obviously i know my shit, could someone PM me, i have the perfect module for you guys to install, to stop all this trolling and flaming nonsense.

I moderater 4 other forums and admin 1.

https://www.rollitup.org/make-your-requests/623386-re-better-staff-mods-started.html

@flaming pie, you said what you needed to say. leave Silicity be, hes trying to offer a suggestion which will be fruitful. If your are a moderator, i withdraw my statement, if not. go die in a hole.

Silicity said:

Good post, good information. I am not trying to do a complete overhau, and make it a communist forums to where were all butt buddies, I see staff acting very immature to people and partake in flame, itd be nice if they were told to chill out atleast and like krondizzle says some staff wont let things go and they'll have a vendetta for that person. The worser people that keep posting terrible shit over and over to even staff can be controlled a little better, not saying person to person but I see staff instead of deleting posts and such they will partake in the flame and it just keeps instigating and quite a few threads always go off course. We could have more active staff, there are people suitable for the position and I understand our admins are busy but over time if we could have fresh staff that are more active, possibly give them a trial period for a few months or whatever amount, and if they had proven suitable to the upper staff they might be able to get banning power of say that person from either the forums or that specific section. Theres a lot we can do and not have the forums be totally communist.

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Alright bud, heres the thing, when you call staff immature and you just told me you want to dick slap my face your kinda contradicting yourself. I dont have an issue with you, I read your thread and to me it seemed that you have good intentions. I approve.
The thing that I dont like about it is the way youve presented your case. Kinda like your disguising bashing the mods of this site while making it look as if your doing the site a favour. If youd like to change somthing then work with the mods, not against them. Theres gotta be one that still likes you or you have some type of open lines of communication with. If you dont like somthing you have every right to start a poll, start a thread, PM with people and work twards a goal. Its not going to get closed if its respectfull and ment to gather info and share ideas on the betterment of our website. theres no communist shit going on. Basiclly if your trying to rub mods the wrong way they have the power to say fuck you bro. If you were doing this kinda shit at a job, insulting your boss behind his back while at the office hed fire your stupid ass too...wouldnt he?
I dont understand why this power to ban is so important to you, theres mods out there that have that power already and just because they have it doesnt mean that someone should be 86ed everyday or somthing to keep the sheep in a row. I told you before and others have as well just in this thread, if you dont like what someones saying theres other threads, ignore the person, move on, its no big deal. if they keep harrasing you report them, follow up, do what you have too. The mods will keep the bad man away, thats what they do. Kron got bitchslapped the other day, you see his location? "On thin ice" He keeps up what hes doing hes been warned. His fate is in his hands. Maybe he pissed off someone today but tommorow hell give some advice that might save someones harvest. GWN flamed me up pretty good (it was funny) and then a month later he helped me out by doing some mod work for me. He cleared up the issue I was having and made my day. It took me like five seconds to find an online mod and all I had to do was ask for help in a polite manner and it was taken care of.
Maybe you just need to have a little break and think about things a bit and chill out. Im not seeing the problems your talking about so maybe its just that your attracting them right now. untill then im going to post some pics and help some kids and give a shout out to all the guys and girls on here doing the same.....HOLLA HOLLA RIU !!!

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i reopened the thread ONLY because i had somethign very useful to contribute, i have an IT background and i regulary build robots and circuits, Im trying to code Arduino as we speak so my robot stop attacking my partner, Trying to build a proximity security robot with a taser on it. Videos will come.

But obviously i know my shit, could someone PM me, i have the perfect module for you guys to install, to stop all this trolling and flaming nonsense.

I moderater 4 other forums and admin 1.

https://www.rollitup.org/make-your-requests/623386-re-better-staff-mods-started.html

@flaming pie, you said what you needed to say. leave Silicity be, hes trying to offer a suggestion which will be fruitful. If your are a moderator, i withdraw my statement, if not. go die in a hole.

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you must have gone to the same school of insults that silicity did, " go die in a hole " ??? right up there with " dick slap ". Is that any fay to talk to a lady bud? Do us a favor and watch your mouth untill you find out who your talking to or go back to the form you came from. Dueces

Look, i support Silicity's point, just not his method of delivery.

I know he is referring to the NEWBIE and PLANT PROBLEMS sections, i asked for help in regards to PH levels, the thread blew out to over 300 posts, of which 250+ where a flame war, Now how the fuck does a thread get to 250+ flames in under 48 hours WITHOUT getting the attention of mods?

Now alot of people got bitch slapped for doing so, i went off my rocket, asked obnoxiously that rude ignorant people keep there unproductive opions to themselves (in more colourful language than that), I was kindly messaged by a moderator and informed the thread would be closed, perpertrators would be repremanded, and was kindly asked to refrain from trying to control MY THREADS, and to implement the report button.

If you give the moderators a bit of respect, they will help you.

Although, i must admit, there are a few dipshits who continually post retarded down syndrome verbal diarrhea, the best we can do is hand them the "dribble bucket to catch that shit"...

I do not have a problem clicking the report button when something is beyond fun and jest. Use your common sense guys, If someone posts something stupid, ignore it, pretend it was written, and respond to the post above it.

Its like children, stop enabling the stupidity by entertaining it, and it will stop. If it doesnt, blame the parents, monkey see, monkey doo. eh bmeat?

Ninjabowler said:

you must have gone to the same school of insults that silicity did, " go die in a hole " ??? right up there with " dick slap ". Is that any fay to talk to a lady bud? Do us a favor and watch your mouth untill you find out who your talking to or go back to the form you came from. Dueces

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I respect you, ive seen you around, i dont get involved in your shit, it was my personal opinion after watching flaming pie attack someone who SITS IN THE NEWBIE AREA EVERYDAY HELPING PEOPLE GROW, Silicity's threads and posts are consistently trolled and pulled off topic by people whom seem to think that the Newbie area is a cafe... It is not a "sit around a post farm cafe".

I am sincerly sorry i did not take the time to review flaming pies reputation around here, It is why i added a "withdraw clause" to my statement. If you say to me i should listen to you and flaming pie, and not Silicity, then i need to heed that statement, as you and flaming pie obviously have been on this SPECIFIC forum alot longer than me, and probobly know more about weed then i as well.

In Australia, "go die in a hole", simply translates to, "POQ", or "piss of quietly", It is a kind way of saying "back the fuck off a little, your getting to intense"

As a rural australian, im quite versed at insults, i just choose not to use them.

Silicity has helped me alot, actually, hes the ONLY person who has taken the time to properly explain things to me in the newbie section.

Again, like i said in my earlier post, i do not know who flaming pie is, i know who ninja bowler is because in someones signiture, you typed something "im crying now, but not emotionally, its like i dont know", guess you were tripping on some good shit, that quote is still fresh in my mind.

So excuse me for commenting.

God your comment has boiled my blood ninjabowler. Do you really think women need special treatment? This is the type of behaviour that actually PROMOTES unequity between genders. As you are well aware i have withdrawn my statement, sent you and flaming pie a quick apology. But geez man, women just want to be treated the same as men, i bet $20, if flaming pie was a guy, your reply would have been less hostile, reinforcing my point.

I see this has turned a lot into about me, the thread changes direction and I comment, im entitled to my opinion and like I said I know im at fault and I am not against getting infracted if staff seems fit. There is a problem in which I am saying, of course it varies day by day but I still am seeing flame in the help sections and such, and there is even posts dating back a couple days and the thread continue to get larger. How can this go unnoticed? I am not trying to be the staffs friend, im not here for a title and to be respected, I dont give a fuck about anything but helping, toke n talk has some funny threads and all but I dont post in there anymore, go check where I post I am here to help people and not expecting anything in return, theres nothing wrong with trying to make this a friendlier place, I didnt mean its a communist forum now, what I meant was im not looking for there to be crazy strict rules so they can force kindness in people. Riu stated debates are allowed but to keep it mature which is obviously rarely the case in sections like the help section, it turns into "im smarter and a better grower, fuck you", diablos posted an idea that is suitable and with that this thread could be closed.

Also i started this thread in hope of figuring out why I was flamed and why the other thread was closed, I was not expecting this thread to turn into what it is now, I was hoping we could have a reasonable discussion In the other one.

Also I dont flame based on gender, your another person made of water and thats how im going to treat you, if I feel like saying something its not biased.

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I see this has turned a lot into about me, the thread changes direction and I comment, im entitled to my opinion and like I said I know im at fault and I am not against getting infracted if staff seems fit. There is a problem in which I am saying, of course it varies day by day but I still am seeing flame in the help sections and such, and there is even posts dating back a couple days and the thread continue to get larger. How can this go unnoticed? I am not trying to be the staffs friend, im not here for a title and to be respected, I dont give a fuck about anything but helping, toke n talk has some funny threads and all but I dont post in there anymore, go check where I post I am here to help people and not expecting anything in return, theres nothing wrong with trying to make this a friendlier place, I didnt mean its a communist forum now, what I meant was im not looking for there to be crazy strict rules so they can force kindness in people. Riu stated debates are allowed but to keep it mature which is obviously rarely the case in sections like the help section, it turns into "im smarter and a better grower, fuck you", diablos posted an idea that is suitable and with that this thread could be closed.

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Just an observation, i actually find that the most heated debates shed the most light on good methods and controversial topics. If you can push someone sometimes that push starts a chain of events that will shine the brighest light on the topic. Usually the guy doing the flaming has the most info on said topic and the flamee is dead wrong. Flame on you flaming diamonds

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Just an observation, i actually find that the most heated debates shed the most light on good methods and controversial topics. If you can push someone sometimes that push starts a chain of events that will shine the brighest light on the topic. Usually the guy doing the flaming has the most info on said topic and the flamee is dead wrong. Flame on you flaming diamonds

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Debatable, not only members use these forums and a lot of people dont know whos who also and its just filling these forums with wrong information, I see on google search a lot of viewed and replied threads to where theres just a ton of shitty information. Ive also noticed more shitty info from all sides and when these topics arise I just steer clear, im not saying that there isnt people with valuable info being posted but these types of threads just get filled so fast that it turns annoying to scan through the pages attempting to look for the correct answer.

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Debatable, not only members use these forums and a lot of people dont know whos who also and its just filling these forums with wrong information, I see on google search a lot of viewed and replied threads to where theres just a ton of shitty information. Ive also noticed more shitty info from all sides and when these topics arise I just steer clear, im not saying that there isnt people with valuable info being posted but these types of threads just get filled so fast that it turns annoying to scan through the pages attempting to look for the correct answer.

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I do it all the time, just today i rolled through four threads that were posted on spider mites. Read some good info and whipped up a batch of some natural mite spray for a lady grower that i know. We sprayed this expiremental mixture all over her plants together and well know if the mix works in a couple of days. If topics cause arguements and you dont have good info then it is a good idea to steer clear regardless. Sometimes if i want to know why someone thinks a certain way ill just fuck with them a bit, theyll tell you what you want to know lol Nobody likes to be told that theyre wrong and theyll find you the info your too lazy to research youself if your good

I dont have much else to say ninja besides that what im trying to get across isnt going to hurt how information is brought about, I believe that if the flame was cleaned up it does nothing but make it a better place overall and not take away from information being posted. Good information can be posted and people can have a mature debate on its legitimacy without flame worth pages, overall im trying to help be able to have things cleaned up.

@diablos

I understand people react to things. I don't take offense to what you said. I do wish however, that you would take a look at Silicity's posts in his original thread that got closed.

A moderator was the first to respond to Silicity's thread and was instantly attacked as being "unprofessional" and was basically told youre not trying hard enough.

That is very rude. And it got worse. I invite you to read the thread. https://www.rollitup.org/make-your-requests/622676-better-staff-rules-enforced.html

Also, feel free to check my profile at any time to view my posts. There is an option at the top of the feed on my profile (right next to "all" ) that will allow you to see only my posts. You can also view my post areas if you want.