Point me in the right direction
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ooof-da
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In another post you talked about being fairly rural but you are concerned about the neighbors too so there is gonna be that stress for you. They will smell I am sure you are aware but those same neighbors are prolly gonna know one way or another if you decide to go for the outdoor thaaaang. Personally I am with you on the whole “sun for free” deal and have considered a green house for the past few years. My electric bill (CA, USA) is already 800-1000 a month so to put in grow lights and fans for me before I get solar to mitigate some of my cost is kinda a non-starter. Last year I dug my 65G fabric pots in and the watering went to around 50% compared to being 100% above ground…just a thought. It’s not too hard to hide a few autos with some strategic fencing but everyone knows their particular situation and it sounds like the stigma of this is very much on your mind. I hope that gets better for you and this whole thing works out.
Moistvonlipwig
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I am out in the country , I wouldn't say I am concerned about neighbors knowing I'm growing . I've never been ashamed of smoking pot so I've never hidden it .
What I am concerned about is coming home one day to find my plants ripped out and hauled away by some thieving $!&hole .
A couple years from now when it's more normalized and we have working dispensaries , I think that will be less and less of a problem
But this first year ... I see a lot of grows getting ripped.
I didn't think about that before ... now , I dunno maybe I'm just being paranoid
What I am concerned about is coming home one day to find my plants ripped out and hauled away by some thieving $!&hole .
A couple years from now when it's more normalized and we have working dispensaries , I think that will be less and less of a problem
But this first year ... I see a lot of grows getting ripped.
I didn't think about that before ... now , I dunno maybe I'm just being paranoid
ooof-da
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OIC.
deno
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I'm in the same boat. When you've got four mature plants in your garden, and are only weeks from harvest it can be nerve racking.
My tactic is this...
1. I grow a vegetable garden so I have an excuse to be out a lot. It provides cover, too. I have two seperate gardens, the other I use for weed mostly. I'm in my 60s and retired, so I'm here almost all the time. If you can keep a dog, do it. You could also set up a camera with some sort of notification to your phone if it activates. They have game cameras that do that, I think.
2. I stay on good terms with all my neighbors. The one that I know smokes, I give him free weed. There's a field behind my yard, and I've talked to the farmer. I suspect he is more interested in learning, than stealing from me. The old guy behind me has never even taken a drink in his life, but I know his son smokes. I go over an talk to him a lot. I start tomato plants for him inside every spring.
3. Just like when I grow inside, I don't tell anyone. Not even friends, unless I know they grow, too. I grow out in the middle of nowhere, is an excuse I've used in the past.
4. I position my garden in the least visible part of my yard. I have asparagus (a perennial) planted along one edge of the garden, and along the other edge I plant a couple rows of corn. This covers my plants until August or so. Even then it's only the tops that show, and 99% of people don't notice.
5. My experience is the stink cloud you can get from these plants only develops when the wind is dead calm, and only during the last four weeks of flowering. There are exceptions, but thats 90% of it. That cloud only travels about 100 feet from the plant. It only develops at late night/early morning. It smells a lot like a skunk smells when it is traveling though. It can be an intense smell, though, very skunk like.
6. This year will be my 6th outdoors, and I've had no issue with theft. When I grow outdoors I yield 6-10 lbs/yr (for 3 or 4 plants). When I grow indoors one cycle is not enough for me to last the year. I have to get two cycles in, which is $600/cycle.
7. I try to keep at least a two year supply in the event of a failed harvest, which includes theft. I store in jars, and in my basement, so it last a couple years. I end up throwing out a lot, which is a weird feeling for sure. I threw about 6 pounds of weed in my compost last fall.
8. By growing extra I can grow a couple different genetics in the event that one is a dud. Last year one of my plants yielded crap weed (we had low 20F for a week, and it needed more time), but the other two with different genetics came out fine.
9. I tresslis my plants well, with four t-posts per plant, surrounded by a wire fence material similar to hardware cloth. This makes it more difficult to get to the plant for both deer and thieves. It's gonna make noise pulling that stuff down to get to the plants. Outdoor plants need much more support than indoor plants because they get larger, and will see 40mph winds at times.
I've often considered a greenhouse, even designed one a few years ago. The issue is July here is brutal. The design I made had sides that folded down, but even with that I would have to cover the top with blankets on some days. The last thing I want to do is cover my plants when they should be converting all that sun to growing. I would definitely feel safer with a greenhouse, even though they stick out. You can filter the air, as well, during the fall at night which is when the plants stink. Plus it extends the season by at least two weeks in the fall, which is really nice for MJ.
My tactic is this...
1. I grow a vegetable garden so I have an excuse to be out a lot. It provides cover, too. I have two seperate gardens, the other I use for weed mostly. I'm in my 60s and retired, so I'm here almost all the time. If you can keep a dog, do it. You could also set up a camera with some sort of notification to your phone if it activates. They have game cameras that do that, I think.
2. I stay on good terms with all my neighbors. The one that I know smokes, I give him free weed. There's a field behind my yard, and I've talked to the farmer. I suspect he is more interested in learning, than stealing from me. The old guy behind me has never even taken a drink in his life, but I know his son smokes. I go over an talk to him a lot. I start tomato plants for him inside every spring.
3. Just like when I grow inside, I don't tell anyone. Not even friends, unless I know they grow, too. I grow out in the middle of nowhere, is an excuse I've used in the past.
4. I position my garden in the least visible part of my yard. I have asparagus (a perennial) planted along one edge of the garden, and along the other edge I plant a couple rows of corn. This covers my plants until August or so. Even then it's only the tops that show, and 99% of people don't notice.
5. My experience is the stink cloud you can get from these plants only develops when the wind is dead calm, and only during the last four weeks of flowering. There are exceptions, but thats 90% of it. That cloud only travels about 100 feet from the plant. It only develops at late night/early morning. It smells a lot like a skunk smells when it is traveling though. It can be an intense smell, though, very skunk like.
6. This year will be my 6th outdoors, and I've had no issue with theft. When I grow outdoors I yield 6-10 lbs/yr (for 3 or 4 plants). When I grow indoors one cycle is not enough for me to last the year. I have to get two cycles in, which is $600/cycle.
7. I try to keep at least a two year supply in the event of a failed harvest, which includes theft. I store in jars, and in my basement, so it last a couple years. I end up throwing out a lot, which is a weird feeling for sure. I threw about 6 pounds of weed in my compost last fall.
8. By growing extra I can grow a couple different genetics in the event that one is a dud. Last year one of my plants yielded crap weed (we had low 20F for a week, and it needed more time), but the other two with different genetics came out fine.
9. I tresslis my plants well, with four t-posts per plant, surrounded by a wire fence material similar to hardware cloth. This makes it more difficult to get to the plant for both deer and thieves. It's gonna make noise pulling that stuff down to get to the plants. Outdoor plants need much more support than indoor plants because they get larger, and will see 40mph winds at times.
I've often considered a greenhouse, even designed one a few years ago. The issue is July here is brutal. The design I made had sides that folded down, but even with that I would have to cover the top with blankets on some days. The last thing I want to do is cover my plants when they should be converting all that sun to growing. I would definitely feel safer with a greenhouse, even though they stick out. You can filter the air, as well, during the fall at night which is when the plants stink. Plus it extends the season by at least two weeks in the fall, which is really nice for MJ.
formularacer
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Buy a small grow tent. Start the plants inside early.
When frost is past plant outside. Greenhouse might be your downfall. Circulating air is best for plant growth....
When frost is past plant outside. Greenhouse might be your downfall. Circulating air is best for plant growth....
Jonesfamily7715
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I've had people steal plants off my back porch just before harvest, all that hard work I was ready to kill that tweaker my neighbors bitch ass son. I have an electric fence I set up and cameras up high. That's worked and I live in South okc.