Problem with new clones and seedlings

SBBoarder21 · Oct 28, 2020

Hi All!

Thanks for any advice/help in advance!

I am a newbie grower with an indoor setup (2’x2’x4’ tent with 400 watt LED light)
I am having some issues that appear to be nutrient burn. The seedlings and clones are in an organic soil mix and I am only using distilled water. I wanted to get some advice on whether I have diagnosed the issue correctly and then solutions.

SpawnOfVader · Oct 28, 2020

Anything that says "soil + fertilizer" is gonna be WAAAAY too hot for seedlings/clones. I do plain coco coir or biobizz light mix. Black gold seedling soil is also pretty solid...

SBBoarder21 · Oct 28, 2020

Temperature is between 74-78 F during day with 55% RH and 65-70 with 65% RH when light is off

SpawnOfVader · Oct 28, 2020

SBBoarder21 said:
Temperature is between 74-78 F during day with 55% RH and 65-70 with 65% RH when light is off

Your problem is the mix, that's way to hot and heavy for something that sensitive. IDK what I'd do at this point, transplanting is just gonna add more stress but you need a much lighter, mellow mix for this phase of growth. Live and learn ;-)

SBBoarder21 · Oct 28, 2020

Is flushing advised?

7CardBud · Oct 28, 2020

What does the LED pull at the wall for power?

SpawnOfVader · Oct 28, 2020

SBBoarder21 said:
Is flushing advised?

Not gonna lie- only made that mistake once and I tossed the seeds and started over in good seedling soil.

SBBoarder21 · Oct 28, 2020

Is there any saving the clones?

SpawnOfVader · Oct 28, 2020

SBBoarder21 said:
Is there any saving the clones?

How long have they been in the soil/when did you take the clones?

bonytang · Oct 28, 2020

SBBoarder21 said:
Is there any saving the clones?

If they're in rockwool they'll transplant a little easier, if not, actually either way, just wait till the soil is completely dry then it'll be easier for you to take them out w/o damaging the roots into her new planter cup. Transplant should be fine just don't give any more wayer on these if you know the soil is too nutrient rich. Good luck.

SBBoarder21 · Oct 28, 2020

7CardBud said:
What does the LED pull at the wall for power?

135

SBBoarder21 · Oct 28, 2020

SpawnOfVader said:
How long have they been in the soil/when did you take the clones?

Since Sunday

myke · Oct 28, 2020

A good tip I learned was not to buy soil that has a whole bunch of wood chunks in it.
Your clones are fine just dont feed them anything.

SBBoarder21 · Oct 28, 2020

bonytang said:
If they're in rockwool they'll transplant a little easier, if not, actually either way, just wait till the soil is completely dry then it'll be easier for you to take them out w/o damaging the roots into her new planter cup. Transplant should be fine just don't give any more wayer on these if you know the soil is too nutrient rich. Good luck.

Thank you!

bonytang · Oct 28, 2020

SBBoarder21 said:
Thank you!

Absolutely bro! Post some new pics down the line // grow journal!

SBBoarder21 · Oct 28, 2020

bonytang said:
Absolutely bro! Post some new pics down the line // grow journal!

For sure! I’ll post some new pics in a couple of days after they have been transplanted to better soil. Transplanting tomorrow after buying the soil. Again, thanks for the help, I just got the clones and don’t want to kill them!

SBBoarder21 · Oct 29, 2020

I was able to transplant everything into Fox Farms Happy Frog soil and I upgraded to smartpots. Will post individual plant pics (w/o the LED light) in a couple days but for now here is the set up:

SBBoarder21 · Nov 1, 2020

Again thank you everyone for the help! I was able to take some individual pictures of the ladies after moving them into the smart pots with Happy Frog. Since I have only gave them distilled water since transplanting, soil pH is a little high, sitting at almost 7. Going to get some pH down tomorrow to fix for next watering either tomorrow night or Tuesday. Not sure when I should start adding some nutrients to the water. Clones are rebounding nicely and the new growth looks much better. Seedlings are starting to rebound but growing slowly. They are bag seed and I ordered some new seeds in the event they aren’t going to make it so it’s not going to be the end of the world if they don’t pull through.

SpawnOfVader · Nov 2, 2020

SBBoarder21 said:
Again thank you everyone for the help! I was able to take some individual pictures of the ladies after moving them into the smart pots with Happy Frog. Since I have only gave them distilled water since transplanting, soil pH is a little high, sitting at almost 7. Going to get some pH down tomorrow to fix for next watering either tomorrow night or Tuesday. Not sure when I should start adding some nutrients to the water. Clones are rebounding nicely and the new growth looks much better. Seedlings are starting to rebound but growing slowly. They are bag seed and I ordered some new seeds in the event they aren’t going to make it so it’s not going to be the end of the world if they don’t pull through.

Until the first true leaves form they won’t need ANY food... they are using stored energy from their seed still... and the first couple weeks after that will get enough nutes from any decent soil

SBBoarder21 · Nov 3, 2020

SpawnOfVader said:
Until the first true leaves form they won’t need ANY food... they are using stored energy from their seed still... and the first couple weeks after that will get enough nutes from any decent soil

How about the clones?

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