QWEVER?
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Grow Goddess
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No, it doesn't work that way entirely. Terpenes can evaporate right off the buds in the grow room. However, when they are growing those terpenes rejuvenate.
Yes, they can and do separate. Some float, others sink..... I know this from my research of essential oils, how they are obtained, and from experience.
Grow Goddess
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That is the point not to pour the water off!! Exactly what I was pointing out ding dong
BobCajun
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Not when they're still a part of the extracted resin. They float, yeah, after you have isolated them by steam distillation. By all means produce your evidence to substantiate your claims and then I'll believe it. You saying it is rather unconvincing.
qwizoking
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Once dissolved into solvent everything "sperates" lighter compounds allowed to float etc
Also it seems your forgetting that thca is much more soluble than thc in water. Also the flavorful compounds encompass alcohols esters aldehydes etc hint alcohol is highly soluble in water.
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qwizoking
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I never disagreed with you?
qwizoking
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Your the one making the wild statement
Support your claim.
You should be able to explain logically if you know what your talking about
Lol
selfmedicator462
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I forgot what my original question was.
BobCajun
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It was what does QWEVER spell, and nobody knew. No it was really about the water. I say dump it, Grow Goddess said keep it. Just dump it and send it to her. I think she'll enjoy it. I feel kind of bad about contradicting her though. She's not one of the people who constantly annoy me.
Bublonichronic
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Obviously things that are soluable in water will be in that water you poor off...what's the big deal
BobCajun
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No big deal, just somebody thought terps would get poured off with it. I've poured water off plenty of times and it never had a terpy smell and nothing was floating on top, not even a sheen. Terps don't actually do anything for you anyway, in the doses consumed in cannabis extracts. They're just good as a sales aid for people who judge things by their smell.
Of course, all those terps are commercially available as pure compounds at considerably less than $30-70 a gram. Buying high terp extracts is for suckers and people with money to throw away. Your best deal is actually CO2 extracts, which have barely detectable amounts of terps. But you'll hear people griping about the lack of flavor and aroma and they'll buy BHO with 15% terps.
You can buy a gallon of limonene for $20. You can smoke it all day and all night. Pinene is actually quite bad for you, and one of the most abundant terps in many strains. It's also known as turpentine. Try smoking some turpentine sometime. Probably not that enjoyable.
skepler
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Are you talking about the amber oil floating on top of the milky water puddles after the alcohol is gone? It see that too, only when it is humid outdoors. I use 99% ISO too, but the humidity runs 10-15% here normally, so I don't see water until the RH% gets to 40-50%.
Grow Goddess
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Don't want the water Bob. Was just pointing out the consequences of using low percentage alcohol. With the additional information that there are more than likely terpenes trapped in that water. With that kind of water issue, one is asking for mold as well.
Simple solution, when making that type of extract with no or low heat, use 99% iso or 200 proof ethyl. I have not had any water problems since.
If I did have a water problem using the high percentage alcohol, I would need to invest into a dehumidifier for my home.
Grow Goddess
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I have never gotten milky water puddles when using 99% iso or 200 proof ethyl. I have when I used 192 proof vodka though. My guess is that the amber puddles you have encountered is concentrate that is floating on top of the water.
Here is what I do know, to be able to actually see the terpenes would require a microscope. It looks like microscopic, clear dust that has stuck together, floating on top of the fresh extract. I am very confident that some of that is the floating terpenes. I have encountered this on each batch of QWISO and QWET.
This is the the most amount of milky substance I see when doing a 99% iso or 200 proof ethyl extraction. I am sure the humidity and air movement plays a part. It is just around the rim and typically evaporates by the time all of the alcohol has evaporated. Never really been a problem. No need to be concerned with pouring anything off.
I am just happy concentrates will be legal in MI. Back in the saddle again for me! Back to making oil and working with cancer patients.
Here is some RSO. Can't wait to start making it again!
I have learned how to make my RSO gently. It does require a couple of weeks for it to finish naturally decarbing though. I do lose half of the terpene power being that heat is used during the process. With half terpene strength, it increases the length of the effects by 100% compared to straight up heat decarbed concentrate. With all of the terpenes, no heat used in the process, the effects can last 300% longer than a heat decarbed concentrate. Terpenes are the second most important component in cannabis. I put them above CBD. When it comes to smoking, the terpenes are not so important as they are damaged from heat anyway and do not offer any benefit. I am referring to ingesting and topical use only.
anyway, that's my two cents for today
BobCajun
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For godsake don't give cancer patients any decarbed products. THCA will help them but THC will hurt them. If they can get high off what you give them then you know they're being harmed. THC actually helps cancer by suppressing the immune system, unless you intend to inject it directly into the cancer, which I'm guessing you're not. And there is no "natural decarbing", which in your case is a good thing. If you really want to help them, use your extracting skills on some Rosemary and give them that instead. You'll be the only person around actually curing cancer patients instead of hastening their demise. You could make a name for yourself.
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Grow Goddess
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Excuse me, but I have a 100% success rate on curing cancer with RSO..... (heat decarbed cannabis concentrate) you are barking up the wrong tree mister.... I do know what I am doing and what I am talking about. I cannot say the same for you. Have a look read all entries, you may actually learn something. http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/blog/532-growgoddess-blog/
As for naturally decarbing, sorry bozo, it beats everything. Obviously you know nothing about decarboxylation.
Rosemary LOL, Oregano is much better for you. If you knew anything about essential oils, you would have known that simple fact.
I have reservations for saying this, but I actually agree with QWISOKing, your are an idiot - However, my words would be fool and troll. A troll supplying false information. Have you not learned anything since you registered in 2009? I am here to help people learn. It has become obvious to me you are here to hurt people. You will be the very first person I have ever put on an ignore list. Congratulations!!!
Love all them pictures you post to back up your claims.....
I apologize to everyone else for getting sucked into this trolling argument. I have nothing more to say to you.
QwisoKing, I am sorry for stepping on your toes with this guy. He's all yours.
BobCajun
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Why did I even bother? It just heats itself up above 60 C does it? You are actually a very dangerous person to public health. Were the people you gave shit to on chemo? Obviously yes. So what makes you think you "cured" them? If they recoved it was in spite of you, but because of you. You know pretty much nothing about Cannabis, medicine or chemistry. far as I can tell, you're a wacko, plain and simple.
You spout stuff that's just ridiculous and act like you're an authority. The terpene thing was a prime example and the "natural decarbing" thing confirmed it. For the good of society you should never be allowed in the same room with a cancer patient. THC actually make chemo LESS effective. But of course you don't know that, because you are a very ignorant person, as you have clearly demonstrated. May sound harsh, but after your last reply to me I'm not going easy on you anymore. Not only are you extremely ignorant and a danger to society but you're also very offensive and insulting. Not a great combination.
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qwizoking
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Lmao..
Coming from you finshaggy jr
qwizoking
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You don't believe you can decarb at room temp?