qwiso filtering

joe0508

Member
I am a new member and i appriciate this forum and any help i can get from this topic.I just recently found a way to extract thc using the qwiso method through the web.I have did a lot of research and understand most of the method.I had the idea to use unfiltered coffee filter for the filtering part and just found out that the filters will trap a lot of wonted oils.These oils that the filters trap lowers the return of hash oil that you would expect in the end.I found this info from the video in you tube here is the link,
understand you can soak the coffee filter with iso and they will work better but i wont to do as good of a job as i can on this part because it is the most crucial part.My question is would the method that this guy uses be better than the coffee filter or not or would some other method of filtering be better?I am trying to get the best yield i can without the junk.Thank for all your help and have a blessed night.
 

qwizoking

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coffee filter really doesnt change yield much at all. the amoumt of fluid it holds, after evap wouldnt even be a good dab
 

joe0508

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I know it is off the topic but now i am thinking bho would be better and i found an easy method using a mason jar.I have a half an oz of real good bud.I need to know how much butane to use with this amount of herb?
 

joe0508

Member
Its where you take and punch 3 to five holes in the lid of the mason jar lid and screw it back on and insert the can of butane i one of the holes and empty the can into the mason jar.Than you take the lid off and put a coffee filter on and dump the whole thing in a dish to evaporate.
 

kiwipaulie

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Its where you take and punch 3 to five holes in the lid of the mason jar lid and screw it back on and insert the can of butane i one of the holes and empty the can into the mason jar.Than you take the lid off and put a coffee filter on and dump the whole thing in a dish to evaporate.
Don't do that. I just don't like the idea of exploding glass.

I use a piece of pvc pipe about 30cm long, get some end caps and drill about 7 holes in one and one in the other end. Use a coffee filter on the end with loads of holes and there you go
 

joe0508

Member
I have been reading that a turkey baster works well.Can anyone recommend one that will hold 14 grams with no gaps?Also do you get more yield from bho or iso with high grade herb?
 

GrowinDad

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First off, go to the concentrates section. Secondly, don't try to make BHO on the cheap. It is dangerous in many ways.

Stick with a QWET or QWISO. I presoak my coffee filters in ethanol. If using ISO as your solvent, make sure you purge it all out before consuming.

If only starting wiht 1/2 oz, don't expect much return..
 

qwizoking

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dont use pvc, also ya you are liable to shatter that jar. but really you shouldnt try ghetto methods with butane, its a dangerous solvent. qwiso and qwet can be done indoors fine

dont be that uninformed guy trying to make dabs makin the rest of us look like idiots..especially if yiu get hurt


you get higher yield on bho. after winterizing you get about the same yield. qwiso is better than winterized bho if made properly . you cant pull a good amount of the fats and oils by winterizing, and many have a melting point way below your feezer temp.
theyre different solvents with dif polarity giving dif results. personally i prefer qwiso to any other method as its a good halfway between ethanol and butane.

typically 15-20% yield.

if yiu dont have a vac, thats ok. people freak out about a little solvent residue but these people dont understand how it works in your body. you get more hydrocarbons in you in lots of daily activities. say walking from walmart door to your car. in the same way anything electronic puts off radiation etc, a hot water bath and thin film is fine..
qwet and qwiso are much easier to purge not extracting so many fats causing a film to form. we call this an "iodine value" and again, if you smelled iso while purging at all you got more in you than would from the dabs with no iso flavor..... and sticking your nose in iso and inhaling may not feel great on your nose but realistically your fine. i have a medical back and been doing this a loooong time. i promise no adverse afrects will arise



try reading the first post in "qwizos qwiso" or many other threads.


the coffee filter really doesnt make a dif, if you wanna pre wet it go for it. you might, lose .01grams if your qwiso solution is fairly concentrated. however. pre wetting the filter wont stop most of any loss, again this is from a slight chem tek/lab knowledge but an overall lack of understanding. the solvent is simply going to trade places. it(the clean iso on filter) will dilute the qwiso coming out the filter and yiur filter is still left with qwiso fluid
 

joe0508

Member
I think i will stick to the qwiso method just to be safe,Has anyone made some qwiso and mixed it with pg or ejmix and vaped it?How was the high?Was it the same as a joint and did you get a head high doing this?If anyone has done this method with qwiso as well as bho can you tell me the comparison as far as potency?I made some brownies recently with some pretty dank weed and all i really got out of them was a body high which was a waist because i like the head high.I drive a big truck and i would like to find a way i can smoke and be discreet.The vaping method mixed with concentrate seems to be a good idea as long as it does the job the same way a joint would.
 

qwizoking

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try the concentrate section for vaping, look for posts by guzias, the search tool may be helpful here as i believe he started a thread on it.. i like it, easy public use with little odor


the high will be the same


to get edibles most like the bud...
you need to make hash oil first like bho qwiso qwet..even sift hash. this removes the green flavor and allows yiu to know exactly when its done decarbing..
thc is pretty sensitive cbd much less so. the extended crockpot times used to extract from cannabis directly into yiur carrier cause less thc, more cbn and cbd to be present
giving your sedation
you should "decarb" hash oil over a double boil watching bubbles slow like popcorn.
then simply dissolve into yiur carrier thats been brought to melting point.
coconut oil provides best bioavailability and faster onset
personally i make pills for easy dosing and accurate mg content

i like 300mg
 
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qwizoking

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the high is the same for vaping and smoking, the extraction does little to alter this
yiu can get close with edibles but thc in the liver is converted to a dif compound with dif affects, largely more psychadelia.

i would help yiu with the vape thing, ive done it. but i prefer not to speak on subjects im not completely confident in. i will say, pg is best to use. i have related degrees in pharmacology and have worked on pharmaceutical cannabis preparations as well as priduce edibles often. so i have confidence when i speak on bioavailability, pharmacodynamics and methods etc here




the concentrate section is towards the bottom of the main page.
 
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joe0508

Member
Thanks for all your input qwizoking.Now i know who to go to knowing your background.I got one more for you.What is the best purging method for qwiso?Would it be best to just let it naturally evaporate or would it be best to use heat and how much heat?
 

qwizoking

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i prefer no heat and high airflow. a typical pyrex before scraping. it should be a thin film. it gives best product
if this makes you uncomfortable after it appears dry you can do a hot water bath whatever, however you think you can achieve that temp or close..-i wouldn go over 120°f at sea level.
if it looks creamy ,it should be pretty clear..or multicolored ots not done.
of it comes as a powder on your blade its probably done.
if using no heat and a single avg store sized bottle of iso wait ...

man just read qwizo qwiso.. google it. you problyvdont even need to venture past first page
im kinda high bro and dont feel like tyoing...also it wont be getting better tonight :D
goodnight riu
 

Lovemisensi

New Member
Hi, I'm new to this thread and very new to qwiso and qwet extractions.. I'm looking for info on the right kinds of filters used as reading a pit of different views and how the microns are also strain specific. I have been using coffee filters and my results have been good for my standards anyway but I am worrying I've been wasting a lot in the actual paper of the filters. I've ordered a 25micron food grade filters cup and wondered is this to large.. from what I've been reading tho, between 25-and 40- is what you want.. anything below 20 is basically to small and results in lower grade dab/edibles. I'm just a bit confused as I thought coffee filters were around 5mics. Here are 2 separate runs. The lighter colour is from a qwet wash and the darker from qwiso.. these were done using fresh frozen flower and frozen alcohol. Just in process of evaporation so will post photos once there done. Any advice would be amazing as again I'm very new to this. Thankyou all.
 

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