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Vnsmkr
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Looking good. That water man, look what it does! ha ha ha. They should blow right up in there!
Grandpa GreenJeans
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Yeah I've had some wash go rancid like on me before. I still used it but the finished serum didn't keep well. I've been re innoculating with the old serum for years now. Totally skip the rice wash part and have finished serum in 3-4 days.
I use this shit on everything so I have to stay making it every month. But I'm really suprised at how little is actually needed to to clean drains, or add to my septic system, compost excellerator , AACT, rooting excellerator, FPE, ect...
To me, EM is gold.
Vnsmkr
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I had a EM I didnt finish, ie I didnt do the final step with it separating it, I just dumped in a load of sugar, let it sit for few more days then I put that whole thing into my compost drum, which was full of coconut hulls, pretty large woody branches, some bonsai trees, and alot of green leaf. After a year in there it looked like EWC. I used it this year in my garden and as a matter of fact the sour mango tree and all that lettuce variety/fennel is planted in it. The rest is distributed throughout the garden. But yeah, good stuff man.
Grandpa GreenJeans
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These should get you started. But remember the key players that I have focused on are yeast, photosynthetic bacteria and Lactobacillus. There are many more but it's hard to keep up with every one, So I just focus on the mains.
http://theunconventionalfarmer.com/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactobacillus
http://www.gardenguides.com/137151-lactobacillus-plant-growth.html
http://lifeofplant.blogspot.com/2011/12/anaerobic-photosynthesis.html?m=1
DonBrennon
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Hi Grandpa, great thread, how do you add the yeast and photosynthetic bacteria? I mean yeast is readily available, I've got some in my cupboard for baking, could that be used? I've made Gill & Pat's Lacto serum (I've made most their recipes, love the fish hydrolysate, quality, but killed 2 blenders pmsl), but believe that is solely lacto bacilli bacteria, isolated by adding the milk? I may very well be wrong in that, my memory ain't what it used to be.
Anyway here's a nice link I found with good info on EM1 & a recipe for EM5, which seems similar to gill & pat's immunity boost.
http://www.em-sustainableliving.co.uk/acatalog/EM Sustainable Living Brochure.pdf
Anyway here's a nice link I found with good info on EM1 & a recipe for EM5, which seems similar to gill & pat's immunity boost.
http://www.em-sustainableliving.co.uk/acatalog/EM Sustainable Living Brochure.pdf
Grandpa GreenJeans
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Excellent info man!!! Thanks for sharing the link.
Your correct about the serum being L. Bacillus dominant, however the yeast are present in the serum and a multitude of other micros including purple non sulfur photo bact. These all are captured and cultured in the rice wash used to innoculate the lactose. The real majic happens when the serum is activated and added to an organic substance. The air around us is filled with bacteria that we inhale on a regular, but given the right enviroment, it flourishes. Aerobic microbes are also captured in the wash and the serum but the enviromental conditions force them into spore and cyst form and only when conditions are right will they awaken, ie soil, compost or AACT. The important thing to rember is that these microbes that were culturing are flaculative anerobes meaning they can function with or without oxygen. But they have a different function in different enviroments.
If youve made the fish hydrolysate, youve noticed a yeast cake on the surface of the finished product. I cant say for sure not to add bread yeast because ive never done it, but i havent had any reason to do so.
Some microbes in the serum serve as a food source to aerobic soil microbes via the "microbial loop" because they function the best under anerobic conditions. The Purple Non sulfur Bacteria are best applied as a foliar and penetrate the leafs stomata and assist in enhanced photosynthisis and react to a wider light spectrum, usually wavelengths that plants dont use or use very little of, because they dont function in aerobic conditions, they are a food source for protoza if applied to the soil. This can help increase aerobic bacillus populations that help cycle nutrients.
Vnsmkr
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Here are a few sources I utilize. Unconventionalfarmer.com is one of my favorites. and this one too http://www.agriton.nl/apnanman.html
Grandpa GreenJeans
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LOVE love love it!!!!!!!!!
http://www.agriton.nl/apnanman.html
This is a new resource for me. Very informative and forsure a keeper!
Grandpa GreenJeans
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Grandpa GreenJeans
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I'm really impressed with this auto. She keeps cranking out the resins!!
Buds aren't that big but the resin content makes up for it.
And it's veganic FPE to boot, all except for when my buddy fed her monasato in my absence.
Can't wait to show her after the 10,000k (ripening bulb) in the last 1.5 weeks.
Buds aren't that big but the resin content makes up for it.
And it's veganic FPE to boot, all except for when my buddy fed her monasato in my absence.
Can't wait to show her after the 10,000k (ripening bulb) in the last 1.5 weeks.
Grandpa GreenJeans
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Thanks man, I have a totally new view and appreciation for this strain of auto. I'm not sure what she resembles tho.
It's a Super cheese x jet 47.
The cheese is sunk x skunk and is where the odor comes from, I'm thinking.
The jet is (AK47 x White Widow) x Lowryder #2 and is where her size and flower formation come from.
The copious resin production I'd almost be inclined to think that's the white widow comming out. Either way I'm thinking next round I'll pop a bunch of them and do a SOG. I only have 15 beans left so I'll have to make more.
Grandpa GreenJeans
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She is 61 days from seed today. The info I've found on jet 47 says 10 weeks total.
Super cheese says 60-69 days
I've only seen maybe 5% of her calyx swollen and hairs receded. So she definitely takes after the jet more than the cheese. Buds are dense but it's all resin and no swell.
I might put her in a very cold room durring ripening and see if I can get some color out of her.
Super cheese says 60-69 days
I've only seen maybe 5% of her calyx swollen and hairs receded. So she definitely takes after the jet more than the cheese. Buds are dense but it's all resin and no swell.
I might put her in a very cold room durring ripening and see if I can get some color out of her.
ShLUbY
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yeah thats just suggested time im sure you know. i never harvest until my eyes say to do so
calliandra
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Sheez thanks for sharing those
Grandpa GreenJeans
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Today is a very sad day for me. ALL of my plants are boys. I'm going to take clones and flower them under cfls to get the pollen. I was really really hoping for at least 1 girl, but luck is not on my side this round.
It's most likely from the stress caused by the ozone when they were seedlings. I've never had all boys before, .... ever!
Here what they look like:
I'm really bummed out. All that work, just to find out its a total sausage fest. Smh-
It's most likely from the stress caused by the ozone when they were seedlings. I've never had all boys before, .... ever!
Here what they look like:
I'm really bummed out. All that work, just to find out its a total sausage fest. Smh-
Grandpa GreenJeans
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Looks like that fem auto SOG is up next.
Vnsmkr
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Thats just the way it sometimes plays stress or nae