Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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m4s73r said:
Actually we kinda found out they're nice to be able to put your hand on too hold yourself up over the bed when reaching in. Just good ole rocks from the Missouri River.
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Damn... good idea. If I ever finally get around to getting a bed, I'm gonna do that! :bigjoint:
 
hillbill

hillbill

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I don’t use anything near that size but I use up to 10% by volume in my indoor mixes, great stuff. I thought I was getting 25 pound bags but they were 1 cubic foot weight 42#. Might have had them load it if I knew.
 
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loco41

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hillbill said:
Got 6 bags of Black Kow at Wally World.
Life is good.
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Do you plant straight into the mix containing the black kow right away or do you let it "cook" a bit before planting? I just grabbed 8 bags and plan on mixing up a lot of fresh soil this weekend, but dont want to order my comfrey crowns before the soil is actually ready to go.
 
Nwtexan

Nwtexan

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Completed my first cycle with a no-till in a SIP. Had a few issues and sent sample to Logan Lab for testing. Anybody with more experience have an opinion on results? I was able to translate a few of the results, but still unsure if I should try another cycle this route or not.

I am using their tools to come up with desired levels
Calcium-TECx400x.68 which I come up with 5018 desired- mine is 5306
Magnesium TECx240x.12. I come up with 532 desired-mine is 456
Potassium TECx780x.04. I come up with 576 desired-mine is 908

Sodium is a bit high still , and can't tell what Phosphorus should be/. soil report.jpg
 
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Stumay111

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Good info, I'm doing something very similar here.

I have been lead to understand that the soil Ph isn't really monitored in no-til, the soil adjusts itself to what it needs.

How accurate is that statement?
 
Polyuro

Polyuro

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Stumay111 said:
Good info, I'm doing something very similar here.

I have been lead to understand that the soil Ph isn't really monitored in no-til, the soil adjusts itself to what it needs.

How accurate is that statement?
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Pretty much true for the average peat mix. My water is over 9 ph and doesn't create a problem.

As for monitoring pH in peat soil goes, u will find lots of opinions still even about how to do that....soil pen the runoff? Soil probe the top, middle, sides, bottom, side, side bottom, etc??

I hope this doesn't start a big yelling conversation. They never get anywhere.
 
bobrown14

bobrown14

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Soil pH needs to be tested in a lab. Anything else specially those probes is a guess at best.

That lab report is not very informative.

Suggest getting your soil tested at your local/state county extension service. They will break down everything on the report and give you recommendations etc. You local extension service should be almost FREE as well. If you're in a state that doesn't offer soil testing for some strange reason, there are states that will except out of state soil samples.

Soil labs are in every state. They were paid for by tax dollars and the AG bill. Not sure why Oregon and Washington State dont test soil anymore.
 
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Stumay111

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bobrown14 said:
Soil pH needs to be tested in a lab. Anything else specially those probes is a guess at best.

That lab report is not very informative.

Suggest getting your soil tested at your local/state county extension service. They will break down everything on the report and give you recommendations etc. You local extension service should be almost FREE as well. If you're in a state that doesn't offer soil testing for some strange reason, there are states that will except out of state soil samples.

Soil labs are in every state. They were paid for by tax dollars and the AG bill. Not sure why Oregon and Washington State dont test soil anymore.
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Already done. Expect results today.
 
getogrow

getogrow

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Polyuro said:
Pretty much true for the average homemade organic peat mix. My water is over 9 ph and doesn't create a problem.

As for monitoring pH in peat soil goes, u will find lots of opinions still even about how to do that....soil pen the runoff? Soil probe the top, middle, sides, bottom, side, side bottom, etc??

I hope this doesn't start a big yelling conversation. They never get anywhere.
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Peat moss holds a very low ph. As long as you have enough amendments then you will never need to worry.
 
getogrow

getogrow

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Nwtexan said:
Completed my first cycle with a no-till in a SIP. Had a few issues and sent sample to Logan Lab for testing. Anybody with more experience have an opinion on results? I was able to translate a few of the results, but still unsure if I should try another cycle this route or not.

I am using their tools to come up with desired levels
Calcium-TECx400x.68 which I come up with 5018 desired- mine is 5306
Magnesium TECx240x.12. I come up with 532 desired-mine is 456
Potassium TECx780x.04. I come up with 576 desired-mine is 908

Sodium is a bit high still , and can't tell what Phosphorus should be/. View attachment 4903857
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wheres the nitrogen ?
 
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DoobieDoobs

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Hey guys, hope this finds you all well.

I was thinking about starting at some point a no till, inside my 2x4 grow tent, and I was thinking about getting either a big enough smart pot or a container from home depot, which one do you guys think would be better for it?
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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DoobieDoobs said:
Hey guys, hope this finds you all well.

I was thinking about starting at some point a no till, inside my 2x4 grow tent, and I was thinking about getting either a big enough smart pot or a container from home depot, which one do you guys think would be better for it?
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Or there's these.....
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