Religion Has Done More Bad Than Good
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CrackerJax
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Don't know what circular logic is? Part of me is shocked...part of me says...of course he doesn't! 
A circular argument is one wherein at least two conclusions are offered as proofs of each other. This is to say, for example, that A and B are true, and your proof is that A therefore B, and B therefore A, with no outside proof of either. A good (and common) example is "God exists because the Bible says and the Bible is the infallible word of God." Break it down into: "God exists because the Bible says so" and "The Bible is true because God says so." These lean upon each other; remove either and both fall apart. The first assumes the truth of the Bible to prove that God exists, and the second assumes that God exists to prove the truth of the Bible. Each assumption is unproven outside of its sibling assumption. But this is elementary logic.
Picking up on my drift?
A circular argument is one wherein at least two conclusions are offered as proofs of each other. This is to say, for example, that A and B are true, and your proof is that A therefore B, and B therefore A, with no outside proof of either. A good (and common) example is "God exists because the Bible says and the Bible is the infallible word of God." Break it down into: "God exists because the Bible says so" and "The Bible is true because God says so." These lean upon each other; remove either and both fall apart. The first assumes the truth of the Bible to prove that God exists, and the second assumes that God exists to prove the truth of the Bible. Each assumption is unproven outside of its sibling assumption. But this is elementary logic.
Picking up on my drift?
CrackerJax
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Now see, it's right in front of you and yet....you do not see. This is quite pointless.
CrackerJax
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I read the scripture but my post defeats all scripture....so....your point is mighty dull.
CrackerJax
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No, I'm just not fooled into thinking it's gospel truth. It says it is, but so what. Just because they say it and ppl then believe it, doesn't make it actually true.
The Bible only confirms itself, nothing else. Conversly, nothing else confirms the Bible, except the ones who have made a business out of it.
I'm just not fooled easily and have the strength to go into the darkness without a myth as comfort.
The Bible only confirms itself, nothing else. Conversly, nothing else confirms the Bible, except the ones who have made a business out of it.
I'm just not fooled easily and have the strength to go into the darkness without a myth as comfort.
Green Cross
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Is a black person who doesn't agree with your point of view an "ignorant black"
My bet is your hatred doesn't end with Christians
GanjaAL
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NOpe... it is people doing bad things in the name of religion.
People are people regardless of their religious preference.
See here and here for a couple of theories.fish601 said:
It would depend on what you mean by "language", but animals communicate with each other in many ways. Their methods just aren't generally as refined as ours. (link)fish601 said:
Here you go.fish601 said:
See here and here.fish601 said:
There aren't.fish601 said:
Sure, wings would be cool. Nature's already started trying the winged mutation with cats, so we may get a chance as well.fish601 said:
I take it you aren't aware of how rocks are formed, or how they are dated. See here for the simple stuff (that you should have learned by the age of 10), and once you have absorbed that, see here.fish601 said:
Brazko
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Originally Posted by grape swisha
fish will never understand. he seems like one of those hardcore christians that is ignorant to just about anything that isnt in the bible.
A co-Worker of Mine was discussing how 1 day in Class our Physicist Teacher was saying how he can calculate to an T the exact location one Should Sit on An Airplane with speed, size, Weight, blah, blah, that would allow that person to Survive an Crash. My Co-worker Said, Mr. Blank, I don't care where I sit on that plane, I can be on the OUtside sitting on the Nose of the Plane and if God want's me to Live than I will.....
The Joke:
A devout Christian, and Faithful was sick and Shut in. For So long he had been Sick everyone was trying to get him to Go see a Doctor, but Faithfully the man said God will Take care of me, My Faith is in Him to Heal Me....DAys went by, then Weeks, then a Month, Still the faithful Christian waited on the Lord to Save him as his situation continued to get Worse. One day a Doctor showed Up hearing how sick the man had became, and wanted to treat him. The Faithful Christian Smiled and Said No Thank You, my trust is in the Lord, The Doctor Pleaded, but to no avail. Days continued to pass, and another Doctor heard of the man's Illness and decided he would try to help, Upon showing up, The faithful Christian Smiled, Thanked the Doctor and explained to him that the Lord is on His side, He will be healed be the Almighty. The Doctor Pleaded with him but once again, no avail. Soon Weeks turned into months and the Man's Case got worse, Finally, A third Doctor Showed up to his doorsteps, this man was A Christian and a Doctor, he knew he would be able to get through to him, and be allowed to treat the man's Illness, but like all others..The Man told the Doctor he should know better than all others, That the Lord is On his side, He will Wait On him.
Finally, a fatal end, the Faithful Christian Had Passed On...and assuredly he Went to Heaven. Upon entering the Gates, Was the Great and Almighty... The Faithful Christian said God, I have been so Faithful to you, and always trusted in You, Why would you not come and Heal me when you Heard My Cries, God being God Laughed and Smiled at his Child
..What ever do you Mean child, I was all but Sure that I Sent over 3 Doctors to take care of You!!
Originally Posted by grape swisha
fish will never understand. he seems like one of those hardcore christians that is ignorant to just about anything that isnt in the bible.
I don't C the connection or where You would get the Impression from Purple Swisha making the above statement about Fish: Ignorance is Contagious, everyone has it, being Ignorant and Dumb is, Well, RAre. But it reminded me of a Story and A Joke, Here Goes the Story.
A co-Worker of Mine was discussing how 1 day in Class our Physicist Teacher was saying how he can calculate to an T the exact location one Should Sit on An Airplane with speed, size, Weight, blah, blah, that would allow that person to Survive an Crash. My Co-worker Said, Mr. Blank, I don't care where I sit on that plane, I can be on the OUtside sitting on the Nose of the Plane and if God want's me to Live than I will.....
The Joke:
A devout Christian, and Faithful was sick and Shut in. For So long he had been Sick everyone was trying to get him to Go see a Doctor, but Faithfully the man said God will Take care of me, My Faith is in Him to Heal Me....DAys went by, then Weeks, then a Month, Still the faithful Christian waited on the Lord to Save him as his situation continued to get Worse. One day a Doctor showed Up hearing how sick the man had became, and wanted to treat him. The Faithful Christian Smiled and Said No Thank You, my trust is in the Lord, The Doctor Pleaded, but to no avail. Days continued to pass, and another Doctor heard of the man's Illness and decided he would try to help, Upon showing up, The faithful Christian Smiled, Thanked the Doctor and explained to him that the Lord is on His side, He will be healed be the Almighty. The Doctor Pleaded with him but once again, no avail. Soon Weeks turned into months and the Man's Case got worse, Finally, A third Doctor Showed up to his doorsteps, this man was A Christian and a Doctor, he knew he would be able to get through to him, and be allowed to treat the man's Illness, but like all others..The Man told the Doctor he should know better than all others, That the Lord is On his side, He will Wait On him.
Finally, a fatal end, the Faithful Christian Had Passed On...and assuredly he Went to Heaven. Upon entering the Gates, Was the Great and Almighty... The Faithful Christian said God, I have been so Faithful to you, and always trusted in You, Why would you not come and Heal me when you Heard My Cries, God being God Laughed and Smiled at his Child
..What ever do you Mean child, I was all but Sure that I Sent over 3 Doctors to take care of You!!
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fish601
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Why do humans cry when sad? those links talk about the effects that crying has on people it doesnt explain why we do it
If evolution is true howcome other animals havent developed language.... no animal is even close to humans in language i think you know what i mean
Why aren't there any Fossils that support evolution... they present that as evolution but its not close to being proven. with that said i have only check on a few so if u will show me which one proves without a doubt please let me know alot of those are so iffy seems like they needed to fill a spot and put something in. i am willing to research a few but i cant do them all so if you know of one,....
The Earth's magnetic field is dacaying so fast that the earth could not be more than 10,000 years old. true or false? someting i seen on the internet..... ok that sounds good to me thanks
Why are there human footprints alongside dinosaur footprints? turns out i was wrong thanks
When the cat runs, the mats flap up and down giving the impression of wings the winged mutation with cats
I take it you aren't aware of how rocks are formed, or how they are dated. See here for the simple stuff (that you should have learned by the age of 10), and once you have absorbed that, see here. did you see my example? anyways..The whole earth is made of rocks & minerals The rocks you see around you - the mountains, canyons & riverbeds, are all made of minerals. A rock is made up of 2 or more minerals. my questions is have those minerals been here from the beginning? if so why dont they all date the same age?
thanks
If evolution is true howcome other animals havent developed language.... no animal is even close to humans in language i think you know what i mean
Why aren't there any Fossils that support evolution... they present that as evolution but its not close to being proven. with that said i have only check on a few so if u will show me which one proves without a doubt please let me know alot of those are so iffy seems like they needed to fill a spot and put something in. i am willing to research a few but i cant do them all so if you know of one,....
The Earth's magnetic field is dacaying so fast that the earth could not be more than 10,000 years old. true or false? someting i seen on the internet..... ok that sounds good to me thanks
Why are there human footprints alongside dinosaur footprints? turns out i was wrong thanks
When the cat runs, the mats flap up and down giving the impression of wings the winged mutation with cats
I take it you aren't aware of how rocks are formed, or how they are dated. See here for the simple stuff (that you should have learned by the age of 10), and once you have absorbed that, see here. did you see my example? anyways..The whole earth is made of rocks & minerals The rocks you see around you - the mountains, canyons & riverbeds, are all made of minerals. A rock is made up of 2 or more minerals. my questions is have those minerals been here from the beginning? if so why dont they all date the same age?
thanks
CrackerJax
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Not having particular answers in science does not give validation to any G*D..... so what's the point?
As soon as you find a gap....you want to fill it up with any nonsense? How about just waiting till we figure it out first. Try giving man the benefit of the doubt for a change.
BUckwheat, I mean Brazko....
you may download my digital soul at will. Replicate and distribute..... then CJ will be everywhere.
As soon as you find a gap....you want to fill it up with any nonsense? How about just waiting till we figure it out first. Try giving man the benefit of the doubt for a change.
BUckwheat, I mean Brazko....
you may download my digital soul at will. Replicate and distribute..... then CJ will be everywhere.Why do humans cry when sad? those links talk about the effects that crying has on people it doesnt explain why we do it
It's effect on other people is exactly why we have evolved the ability to do it. It's beneficial to our survival.
If evolution is true howcome other animals havent developed language.... no animal is even close to humans in language i think you know what i mean
Just because they don't communicate in the same way as us does not make their "language" less viable. Ants could ask the same question about us, since our method of communication is nothing like theirs, but they have evolved a system that works for them, as have we. There are loads of examples of animals using components of what we consider language, and any of them could potentially evolve this further in the far future.
Why aren't there any Fossils that support evolution... they present that as evolution but its not close to being proven. with that said i have only check on a few so if u will show me which one proves without a doubt please let me know alot of those are so iffy seems like they needed to fill a spot and put something in. i am willing to research a few but i cant do them all so if you know of one,....
I'm sorry if they seem "iffy" to you, but to be honest, it shows a lack of research on your part. One fossil on it's own doesn't prove very much, but all of them combined should make things pretty obvious., especially when you look at them on a genetic level.
The Earth's magnetic field is dacaying so fast that the earth could not be more than 10,000 years old. true or false? someting i seen on the internet..... ok that sounds good to me thanks
Why are there human footprints alongside dinosaur footprints? turns out i was wrong thanks
When the cat runs, the mats flap up and down giving the impression of wings the winged mutation with cats
I posted that page as a kind of joke, but that is pretty much how evolution works. Mutations take place, some positive and some negative, and if the animal is successful (manages to breed), the mutation is passed on.
It seems that you have also chosen to quote the most irrelevent part of the article as well, since the "matted fur" stuff is not exactly a mutation.
I take it you aren't aware of how rocks are formed, or how they are dated. See here for the simple stuff (that you should have learned by the age of 10), and once you have absorbed that, see here. did you see my example? anyways..The whole earth is made of rocks & minerals The rocks you see around you - the mountains, canyons & riverbeds, are all made of minerals. A rock is made up of 2 or more minerals. my questions is have those minerals been here from the beginning? if so why dont they all date the same age?
In your earlier example where you "created" a planet filled with volcanoes, rocks would continue to be created after you have left it, so not all rocks would date to your "creation point" You're dating the rock's current form, not it's component elements.
It's effect on other people is exactly why we have evolved the ability to do it. It's beneficial to our survival.
If evolution is true howcome other animals havent developed language.... no animal is even close to humans in language i think you know what i mean
Just because they don't communicate in the same way as us does not make their "language" less viable. Ants could ask the same question about us, since our method of communication is nothing like theirs, but they have evolved a system that works for them, as have we. There are loads of examples of animals using components of what we consider language, and any of them could potentially evolve this further in the far future.
Why aren't there any Fossils that support evolution... they present that as evolution but its not close to being proven. with that said i have only check on a few so if u will show me which one proves without a doubt please let me know alot of those are so iffy seems like they needed to fill a spot and put something in. i am willing to research a few but i cant do them all so if you know of one,....
I'm sorry if they seem "iffy" to you, but to be honest, it shows a lack of research on your part. One fossil on it's own doesn't prove very much, but all of them combined should make things pretty obvious., especially when you look at them on a genetic level.
The Earth's magnetic field is dacaying so fast that the earth could not be more than 10,000 years old. true or false? someting i seen on the internet..... ok that sounds good to me thanks
Why are there human footprints alongside dinosaur footprints? turns out i was wrong thanks
When the cat runs, the mats flap up and down giving the impression of wings the winged mutation with cats
I posted that page as a kind of joke, but that is pretty much how evolution works. Mutations take place, some positive and some negative, and if the animal is successful (manages to breed), the mutation is passed on.
It seems that you have also chosen to quote the most irrelevent part of the article as well, since the "matted fur" stuff is not exactly a mutation.
I take it you aren't aware of how rocks are formed, or how they are dated. See here for the simple stuff (that you should have learned by the age of 10), and once you have absorbed that, see here. did you see my example? anyways..The whole earth is made of rocks & minerals The rocks you see around you - the mountains, canyons & riverbeds, are all made of minerals. A rock is made up of 2 or more minerals. my questions is have those minerals been here from the beginning? if so why dont they all date the same age?
In your earlier example where you "created" a planet filled with volcanoes, rocks would continue to be created after you have left it, so not all rocks would date to your "creation point" You're dating the rock's current form, not it's component elements.
fish601
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If crying didnt have an affect on people would we be stuck with crying that had no use?
What made us develop crying? were are bodies just testing things out?
"One fossil on it's own doesn't prove very much, but all of them combined should make things pretty obvious"
I dont see missing links I see missing chains. I continually look into it searching for something to "link" us with something
On dating rocks i understand now thanks but we still run into the problems with dating methods
What made us develop crying? were are bodies just testing things out?
"One fossil on it's own doesn't prove very much, but all of them combined should make things pretty obvious"
I dont see missing links I see missing chains. I continually look into it searching for something to "link" us with something
On dating rocks i understand now thanks but we still run into the problems with dating methods
If crying didnt have an affect on people would we be stuck with crying that had no use?
What made us develop crying? were are bodies just testing things out?
In the second link I posted:
I fail to see where you are trying to go with this though. Does crying have some kind of religious inferrence?
"One fossil on it's own doesn't prove very much, but all of them combined should make things pretty obvious"
I dont see missing links I see missing chains. I continually look into it searching for something to "link" us with something
The most convincing evidence in my mind is not the fossil record, but human chromosome 2, which was formed by a fusion of 2 chromosomes present in all other primates. Add this to all the other evidence, and it's hard to see why anyone still has doubts about our origins.
On dating rocks i understand now thanks but we still run into the problems with dating methods
Rocks and fossils are usually dated using multiple methods to ensure the accuracy of the results. Each method has it's drawbacks, but when combined the results are highly accurate.
What made us develop crying? were are bodies just testing things out?
In the second link I posted:
I fail to see where you are trying to go with this though. Does crying have some kind of religious inferrence?
"One fossil on it's own doesn't prove very much, but all of them combined should make things pretty obvious"
I dont see missing links I see missing chains. I continually look into it searching for something to "link" us with something
The most convincing evidence in my mind is not the fossil record, but human chromosome 2, which was formed by a fusion of 2 chromosomes present in all other primates. Add this to all the other evidence, and it's hard to see why anyone still has doubts about our origins.
On dating rocks i understand now thanks but we still run into the problems with dating methods
Rocks and fossils are usually dated using multiple methods to ensure the accuracy of the results. Each method has it's drawbacks, but when combined the results are highly accurate.