Religion

Bigger sticks=evolution. Hardly a sum total at all.

You only need to check through old records to witness evolution for yourself. We have evolved physically and mentally.

I'm not sure about what you mean when you said living on in your children. Certainly though I know my children have my dna. If you tried to say one of them was your son it would be easy to prove you wrong.

I'm also not sure what I'm meant to be getting. Have you made a point?

skunkushybrid said:

Feel free to tear me apart on my belief in Evolution, also feel free to join another thread and teach people how to grow weed.

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You seem to enjoy rediculing those who have the faith to believe in God. And yet, you espouse your own faith in believing in evolution. Show me the fossil evidence that man evolved from the lower specie and I will believe in your evolution. If you cannot show the fossil evidence, then you are taking your position on evolution not based upon scientific fact, but upon faith alone. You seem to take great delight in your cruel dialoge and bashing others for their faith in their God, and yet you believe in supernatural faux science yourself. You are nothing more than a hypocrite, Sonny.

One thing you need to understand, Junior ... folks who enjoy cannabis come from all walks of life. We are the non-religious. We are the devoutly religious. We are the young. We are the old. We are the hippies. We are the ones who wear three-piece suits and ties to work. We are laborers. We are students. We are professionals. We are the poor and we are the rich. We are Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Tories and Labour.

You may prefer to believe that you are a decendent of monkeys, apes or a lowly single cell amoeba, but I prefer to believe that I am the decendent of a much Higher Power. Now go stick your prejudices where the sun doesn't shine.

Vi

Well how about that, we actually agree on something, Amen brother!

medicinaluseonly said:

Well how about that, we actually agree on something, Amen brother!

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We may have more common ground that you realize, even though you're a few years YOUNGER than me.

Vi

geez someone older than me on this site, who'd of thunk. I remember when I started smokin pot 1969, smoked for 28 years daily, then got a job with drug testing and quit. My how time flies, I now need it for arthritus and being retired, might also enjoy the high! we might not be close politically, but, someday you'll see the light. lol!

Yep, I'm an oldster all right. Smoked my first joint with a friend in 1953 at the ripe old age of 14. Now, like you ... I use it to for pain control, specifically to relieve cramping due to a neuropathic disease I have. Some of the symptoms are similar to those of MS patients. Cannabis relieves the cramping faster and more completly than any prescription drug I've yet tried. Not to mention that after all these years, I still enjoy the high as well.

Question for ya MUO ... what happened to that great pot of yester-year? You know, the stuff that caused those cartoon images and the slow motion world?

Vi

So you prefer to believe that we were created by a God? Why does God get all the glory? If we need to have been created then who created God?

There's tonnes more evidence to suggest that we came from a single-strand protein than there is an existence of a God.

Where does God live?

I'll tell you what God is. God is you and me, the trees, the moon the sea. Shit that's poetic. God is life. If you want to know who created God, it was you and me.

I understand why people feel the need to believe in a God, especially when you get to your age Vi. But when you believe in Yourself and Your power, You will truly be free.

When you die Vi, that's it. The bible is merely a coded way of trying to get people to behave themselves. A belief in an afterlife makes you believe that death isn't so bad.

Ever been knocked unconscious Vi? I went to have a tooth removed a number of years ago due to an apcess underneath. I had to be injected with novacaine. After I came round I didn't even realise that I'd been under. I tried to get out of the chair but was steadied by the dentist. I have no memory of the tooth being removed because I was unconscious. They'd taken my consciousness away for 10 minutes.

When you are dead you lose your consciousness, I've heard it's the last to go but it goes all the same.

So you stick that up your jacksy Vi. Carry on believing in your fairy tales if you like. If you want to see some fossils search the internet as I don't have any on me at the moment.

If a God created life, why is it only man that goes to heaven?

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i believe there is a creator and that it exsists
i think that all religion is just an attempt to create followers of whatever created people. i dont think that any of 'gods' judgement could be comprehended by humans, if he wanted us to be perfectly happy then why arnt we ?
the fact remains that we live in an imperfect world and that is not going to change. i think that we were put here to prove ourselves as people. i can understand the commandments and stuff it is just basically a way that if everyone belived in a religion it would create a perfect world. a perfect world is a human dream because everyones ideal of perfection is different.
therefore religion only has one purpose and that is to give people hope of this perfect world. Hope i can understand religion i cant.

But why do we need to have been created and a God just be? Why would a God create all life then only let the ones that can think into heaven? Was the rest of life just a mistake with mankind being perfection? What about the dinosaurs that died out 60,000,000 years before our earliest ancestors walked the Earth?

To believe in a God in this day and age is just plain ridiculous.

Hey skunk, take two hits of acid and call me in the morning!

As I've said acid is wank. Done it and been there a thousand times. After a while it just gets mundane. OOOh whooopee, pretty colours. Oooh look, the patterns on the wallpaper are moving, if I stare long enough I can make my own pictures. Acid is for kids.

As I've said I give up, your too hard core, Britian must be a dismal place where you see the sun only once in a while. I agree LSD can be mundane. I've been on a ten hit windowpayne trip before, after taking hundreds of trips and didn't really get off that much. The real High is Peyote. You come visit me and I'll take you on a trip that will have you on your knees praying to whatever you believe in to let up on the intensity. Peyote is a medicine and must be approached in the correct way or else you'll just puke your guts out and see intense colors. I spent months in the desert of Arizona (Beautiful) with a medicine man and learned a few things that I can't even express in words. The one thing I did find out: There is a power greater than me in the universe. Did you know that Sitting Bull charged a batallion of U.S. calvary with repeating firearms and never got a scratch. He was on the medicine. I myself have experienced out of body and defied gravity (physically) so you see there are things that you might not understand going on in this world. If you want to remain the tough guy its allright with me, I'm just for making the world a better place for my grandkids, enough said!

medicinaluseonly said:

As I've said I give up, your too hard core, Britian must be a dismal place where you see the sun only once in a while. I agree LSD can be mundane. I've been on a ten hit windowpayne trip before, after taking hundreds of trips and didn't really get off that much. The real High is Peyote. You come visit me and I'll take you on a trip that will have you on your knees praying to whatever you believe in to let up on the intensity. Peyote is a medicine and must be approached in the correct way or else you'll just puke your guts out and see intense colors. I spent months in the desert of Arizona (Beautiful) with a medicine man and learned a few things that I can't even express in words. The one thing I did find out: There is a power greater than me in the universe. Did you know that Sitting Bull charged a batallion of U.S. calvary with repeating firearms and never got a scratch. He was on the medicine. I myself have experienced out of body and defied gravity (physically) so you see there are things that you might not understand going on in this world. If you want to remain the tough guy its allright with me, I'm just for making the world a better place for my grandkids, enough said!

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That sounds like a great experiance. I would love to get ahold of some peyote.

skunkushybrid said:

Where does God live?

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My grandson and I visited the Grand Canyon together when he was eight years old. I'm sure you've seen pictures of the Grand Canyon, right? Well pictures don't even come close to the majesty of the place. When we were overlooking the view, I asked myself that very question ... where does God live? I asked; does He live in the sky? No, that wasn't it. Does He live in the beauty of the natural setting? Nope, that wasn't it either. As the sun started to set, I saw a ray of light hit the hair on my grandson's head with a particulary beautiful glow. His innocence, youth and beauty was magnified in that moment, and the overwhelming love I felt for my grandson rose to new heights. And then it hit me like a ton of bricks ... the immense love I felt for my grandson at ther very moment? ... THAT'S where God lives.

Vi

Well said. He also lives in the trees, plants, animals, rocks, molecules etc, In the words of an old hippy, "God is love", God is everywhere.

So God doesn't live in heaven then?

The peyote cactus, or the derivative mescaline is a drug that I have wanted to try for years. Did you know that the American Indian Shamans would eat of the peyote cactus, wait for it to take effect and then piss in a cauldron of water. The Indians would drink his piss and then start dancing round the fire all night. I'd love some of that. Not the piss!

You're right I am too hardcore... I know the score... Raving like it's 1984.

Do not confuse a God with Goodness. I believe in Goodness but I don't believe in a seperate entity that's in control of everything, that's just stupid. So God created these other life-forms that you believe in too. It's funny how the bible makes no mention of Aliens or Dinosaurs.

Sitting Bull was also KILLED. Just because it was written that he didn't receive a scratch in one battle, he certainly made up for it in the end. So because he didn't get a scratch in one battle this prooves that there are larger forces at work?

Animals are sentient too, they understand a lot more than they are given credit for. Why is it just man that goes to heaven? Animals just die right?
None of my questions have been answered because none of you can answer them. You just hide behind nice sayings like God is everywhere, God'll suck your dick if you pray everyday, shit like that. Just answer my questions.

Where's Jesus hanging about these days? Heaven right? When I asked where God lived, I meant exactly where. I mean how far do you have to travel to get to heaven? It certainly doesn't show up on them giant telescopes.

My main question is this: If a God created all life, why is it only man that goes to heaven?

Remain the tough guy? I haven't even been trying to be tough. I am what I am and I KNOW what I know. It is you that suffers with lack of understanding. You see I know that there is no such thing as Gods, it's not that I'm not sure, there is no maybe. I KNOW there is no God.

The outer body experience thing was all in your head. Remember the mind is a powerful tool.

Dude your anti-god and jesus stuff is getting old and LAME.
Should we allow preaching on a pot fourm, no, I agree! So goes with the anti-god, jesus, whoever also; because all you are going to do is begin to piss people off, like you are starting with me. I mean, I could block your ass out and never read a thing you post again, but when you talk about pot, then it does not piss me off, but now skunkushybird, you are getting lame and stupid.

I could sit here and debate you to the point that you look like a moron when it comes to facts (that you must pull out of your ass) about God and jesus.

Now let me ask you something, are you a TROLL looking for a flame war on a subject you know nothing about?

This thread is actually titled RELIGION, so why are you still reading? Do you think I care if I piss you off? What are you going to do about it? Your whining just makes you sound like a little bitch. You still haven't answered my questions Mr Iknoweverythingaboutgodandthebible. You prefer to just whine about what you think are blasphemous words against your false god. you're hiding from my questions, trying to evade them by telling me that I'm starting to piss you off. OOOOH, suck my... Is that meant to frighten me, you're the one that's afraid. My words strike a chord with you and they frighten you. You don't want to get into a debate, you just want to cry on about how offended you are that I should dare to say a god doesn't exist.

This thread is about religion so if you don't like what you are reading, do one.

I like the way you answered your own question. That was funny.

Listen up Troll, I am not whining, I just think your lame try at anti-god preaching is nothing but a try to stir up shit on a fourm that has peace until now.
You do not frighten me, I fear no man, bu you on the other hand look like a fucking child, and should really lay off the drugs, seeing that your mind is fucked up with anger. So take your (in your way of thinking) pointless life and fuck off kid.

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