Carne Seca
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oh the irony.
Republican Obstructionism and extremism will cost them
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UncleBuck
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Carne Seca
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I'm still chuckling over sentience. I wonder if he knows what that means?
sync0s
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To the OP: On some things I am glad the Repubs are standing up against, for a large majority I am not. I absolutely agree that it's their election to lose and they stand a good chance losing it depending on how Obama plays his cards especially knowing the Republicans are going to vote no on just about anything. I think if I were Obama I'd be throwing the most popular things at congress, even if I didn't necessarily agree with it, just so the Republicans could shoot it down. Build your ammo for the campaign and debates.
Then quit supporting the status quo. Anyone who blames it on republicans and not democrats and vice versa is just blowing smoke.
Obamas policies stink, the didn't work in the past either.
FDR pulled that very same crap when he taxed undistributed profits during the horrible depression he prolonged.
Uncle Duke is so dumb he doesn't realize the tax itself, which should never have been implemented, is changed by presidential and Congressional pressure. FDR was the same way. Open a book and quit copying and pasting the first thing you come across
Another thing to remember about farms, Corporate farmers receive ~80 percent of the farm subsidies
Mcgician
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You are retarded, naive, extremely biased, and blind to most fact(s). That is all.
The only one spouting off is you uncleduke. An overwhelming majority of millionaires DO NOT inherit their wealth.
Whose backside do you pull your misinformation from?
Dan Kone
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It's so strange how you just say what you feel like saying at the time without any regard for truth. Do you even care that most of the stuff you just make up are easily proven false? The cap on the estate tax is 35%. 35% is still less than 51% right? 51% or more is what majority means in case you were wondering.
Sad that you're actually better at spelling than math.
And yes, they should take the majority of it! We shouldn't have hereditary wealth in the US. The children of children of children of wealthy people did exactly nothing to earn that money.
Next time you want to just make stuff up, you should probably come up with something that can't be proven false by googling "estate tax" and clicking on any link.
You have no right to anothers money. We're told to work hard and take care of our family. Who are YOU to decide what is too much for a family to have? You are every bit as greedy as the ones you complain about.
sync0s
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Isn't the goal of a parent to create a better life for their children?
I have to disagree with you completely on that.
SCARHOLE
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On December 17, 2010, the President signed the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010 (H.R. 4853, Public Law No: 111-312) into law. This law increased the estate exemption to $5 million and set a top federal estate tax rate of 35%. Unless Congress acts, the top estate tax rate in 2013 and beyond will be 55% plus a 5% surtax on estates between $10 million and $17.184 million. The estate tax exemption amount in 2013 and beyond will be $1 million.
Doer
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Well, I'm just saying we don't know anything except what gets into the press-advertizing
machine. And in war time, (perpetual) that is secretly and tightly controlled. Even
wiki-leaks I believe was a toss up job. A distraction. Our gov't is run by a large and
faceless group of staffers. They have secret deals among themselves that are backed by
their principals over fear of the skeletons they we're elected to hide.
To me all this taking sides and nattering about 1/2 truths and mostly paritsan talking points is just buying into the idea that there is a chioce for us at this level.
I been sheep dipped on both sides in my life and now I know, that for those that want to
be told what to think, there is plenty of slogan and jingoism to go around.
This divisivness is what we do and how we do it in this country.
But, I don't take sides. I don't know the real score. Don't have even
a moderate level of security clearance.
Politics is an opiate. You need to be a seller, not a buyer.
machine. And in war time, (perpetual) that is secretly and tightly controlled. Even
wiki-leaks I believe was a toss up job. A distraction. Our gov't is run by a large and
faceless group of staffers. They have secret deals among themselves that are backed by
their principals over fear of the skeletons they we're elected to hide.
To me all this taking sides and nattering about 1/2 truths and mostly paritsan talking points is just buying into the idea that there is a chioce for us at this level.
I been sheep dipped on both sides in my life and now I know, that for those that want to
be told what to think, there is plenty of slogan and jingoism to go around.
This divisivness is what we do and how we do it in this country.
But, I don't take sides. I don't know the real score. Don't have even
a moderate level of security clearance.
Politics is an opiate. You need to be a seller, not a buyer.
Dan Kone
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And even with the estate tax you can take care of your children. But without the estate tax your taking care of your great great great great grandchildren who you're never going to meet. That's not just creating a better life for your children. That's creating a permanent upper class. That family can live off the interest of their ancestors forever.
Do you really think we should have a permanent upper class who never has to work a day in their lives but has all the wealth and power because one of their ancestors made money? That's not capitalism, that's feudalism.
Dan Kone
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That's a lot of criticism for someone who really isn't saying anything.
Dan Kone
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I like what you did there. Much better. You started off with facts at least this time.
How do you figure that removing the lower exemptions on the estate tax = increasing the estate tax to 55%? The cap is 35%. I wish what you were saying is true, but I don't think it is.