CobKits
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what is the physical reason behind this?
Revolution Micro AVICI LED 1150w at the wall
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DesertHydro
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yeah i know. im just super excited about their stuff. been a fan since before they were released.
my DEva is badass. it will run the de cmh bcause its a low frequency square wave ballast. im installing mine in there for the first 2 weeks of flower and then moving the usio 1000 back. 12/12 started today on the mycotek testers.
as far as running the unit at 1150.....mine wont ever see that high unless i get a place with high ceilings. i figure it will max out around 800 or less in a test tent 4x4. either way the quantum meter will tell the tale
haha thank you sir. i didnt mean to come off as a salesman, im just passionate about their stuff and their service. if their LED is as high quality as their DEva lights it will be awesome. happy holidays everyone!
on a lighter note....santa sent me some presents through the chimney. i got cuts of platinum banana og, dj shorts blueberry and lemon og.
5suns
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I wouldn't trust a word that guy Greg or his partner Marisa McRainey says. They sent their attorney after me. Threatened me for libel for posting FCC pics. I uncovered so much information on the guy Greg back about 6 months ago and he promised that he would tell us where his factory was and what he was paying his workers... turns out, he was making some pretty outrageous claims about pay and vacation and sourcing of electronics etc. You should see the miserable pics from the internals on the DeVA that were taken by the FCC. Melted electronics.... Later, I found out he doesn't own the factory and it's in Thailand where they are notorious for treating workers like shit... long story short, he has no idea what they pay their workers at the factory that he contracted with to make these parts... claims they don't come from China and the FCC pics clearly show chinese parts in the DeVa units, he just makes everything up as he goes. Very smart guy, no doubt, and he knows how to get the 'fans' excited to do all of his ground work. He used to own Blue Mountain Avionics and left a lot of guys high and dry with that when it went out of business... If you've ever seen the overpriced PurGro Grobot Evolution, those failed too... designed by Greg. What do you do when everything you design is failing? Rebrand and start a Revolution... You can thank me for warning you later...
DesertHydro
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well damn, thats terrible news. ive had great service from them so far, but then again i just have the one light and controller at the moment. thanks for the honesty either way.
5suns
Member
Biggest thing is catching him in lies. Like I said, no doubt the guy is smart, and it shows in the way he's able to get more and more people to believe him. I caught him in too many to trust him at this point. He claims ZERO returns in 2014 and I believe he even claims zero in the past 3 years, but if you read the reviews on the GroBot, that's 100% not possible...
"If i could leave 0 stars i would have. Don't buy this piece of garbage. I bought 4 with relay modules. Had to hire an electrician to build enclosures for all of them. Then you have to be a damn administrator or borderline programmer to get these things to work. I had containers leak. And they never worked when it ca me time to toggle the relays. I even payed for a plane ticket for Greg to come out and diagnose. Which he never came or refunded my flight fare. Now since I had to become a programmer. I've started making my own out of arduinos. They are cheaper. And since they are made by me I can troubleshoot easier. Without that shyster Greg telling me that they aren't working because of something I did. Hey Greg go back to building airplanes. And fly into the ocean! (Posted on 1/15/2016)"
"I got this bot about three months ago and thought it would help me revolutionize my rooms. It has been a headache ever since. Just to get this thing online you need a router within a foot or so and even then i could never access it over my LAN. I put about 20 hrs in trying to get access over the internet, you need a STATIC IP address and if you don't have one you can create what is known as a DYNAMIC IP Address then from your router point you need a computer running a Dynamic IP address updater! still couldn't access the bot. I called the help number on the company's website but it was disconnected!! Through E-mail only I contacted a guy that was in Thailand (greg), apparently this is the only guy to talk to but the thing is after about 50 or so e-mails the problem was never figured out and I never could actually talk on the phone to him. He insisted that there was no problem with the bot. I decided to make a run without it and just came back to it to set up for another run. this time I decided that i wasn't going to continue to try and get it online. I have about 6 wireless plugs and had them all set up but then the bot failed at turning them on and off!! and again I have had problems getting in touch with Greg and figuring this all out. or will I ever? on top of that I just saw that this, now, over priced doser has a failed PH DOWN motor/pump and leaked down all over the place and the pump now no-longer runs
I have barely even used this thing and I don't think it has run 100% correctly since i got it. waste of money. get a different machine and hopefully you have better luck automating your rooms. (Posted on 8/30/2014)"
"If i could leave 0 stars i would have. Don't buy this piece of garbage. I bought 4 with relay modules. Had to hire an electrician to build enclosures for all of them. Then you have to be a damn administrator or borderline programmer to get these things to work. I had containers leak. And they never worked when it ca me time to toggle the relays. I even payed for a plane ticket for Greg to come out and diagnose. Which he never came or refunded my flight fare. Now since I had to become a programmer. I've started making my own out of arduinos. They are cheaper. And since they are made by me I can troubleshoot easier. Without that shyster Greg telling me that they aren't working because of something I did. Hey Greg go back to building airplanes. And fly into the ocean! (Posted on 1/15/2016)"
"I got this bot about three months ago and thought it would help me revolutionize my rooms. It has been a headache ever since. Just to get this thing online you need a router within a foot or so and even then i could never access it over my LAN. I put about 20 hrs in trying to get access over the internet, you need a STATIC IP address and if you don't have one you can create what is known as a DYNAMIC IP Address then from your router point you need a computer running a Dynamic IP address updater! still couldn't access the bot. I called the help number on the company's website but it was disconnected!! Through E-mail only I contacted a guy that was in Thailand (greg), apparently this is the only guy to talk to but the thing is after about 50 or so e-mails the problem was never figured out and I never could actually talk on the phone to him. He insisted that there was no problem with the bot. I decided to make a run without it and just came back to it to set up for another run. this time I decided that i wasn't going to continue to try and get it online. I have about 6 wireless plugs and had them all set up but then the bot failed at turning them on and off!! and again I have had problems getting in touch with Greg and figuring this all out. or will I ever? on top of that I just saw that this, now, over priced doser has a failed PH DOWN motor/pump and leaked down all over the place and the pump now no-longer runs
I have barely even used this thing and I don't think it has run 100% correctly since i got it. waste of money. get a different machine and hopefully you have better luck automating your rooms. (Posted on 8/30/2014)"
DesertHydro
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bad news for sure. i looked that up right after you posted about it. it sucks that they would launch a product that obviously had so many flaws.Biggest thing is catching him in lies. Like I said, no doubt the guy is smart, and it shows in the way he's able to get more and more people to believe him. I caught him in too many to trust him at this point. He claims ZERO returns in 2014 and I believe he even claims zero in the past 3 years, but if you read the reviews on the GroBot, that's 100% not possible...
"If i could leave 0 stars i would have. Don't buy this piece of garbage. I bought 4 with relay modules. Had to hire an electrician to build enclosures for all of them. Then you have to be a damn administrator or borderline programmer to get these things to work. I had containers leak. And they never worked when it ca me time to toggle the relays. I even payed for a plane ticket for Greg to come out and diagnose. Which he never came or refunded my flight fare. Now since I had to become a programmer. I've started making my own out of arduinos. They are cheaper. And since they are made by me I can troubleshoot easier. Without that shyster Greg telling me that they aren't working because of something I did. Hey Greg go back to building airplanes. And fly into the ocean! (Posted on 1/15/2016)"
"I got this bot about three months ago and thought it would help me revolutionize my rooms. It has been a headache ever since. Just to get this thing online you need a router within a foot or so and even then i could never access it over my LAN. I put about 20 hrs in trying to get access over the internet, you need a STATIC IP address and if you don't have one you can create what is known as a DYNAMIC IP Address then from your router point you need a computer running a Dynamic IP address updater! still couldn't access the bot. I called the help number on the company's website but it was disconnected!! Through E-mail only I contacted a guy that was in Thailand (greg), apparently this is the only guy to talk to but the thing is after about 50 or so e-mails the problem was never figured out and I never could actually talk on the phone to him. He insisted that there was no problem with the bot. I decided to make a run without it and just came back to it to set up for another run. this time I decided that i wasn't going to continue to try and get it online. I have about 6 wireless plugs and had them all set up but then the bot failed at turning them on and off!! and again I have had problems getting in touch with Greg and figuring this all out. or will I ever? on top of that I just saw that this, now, over priced doser has a failed PH DOWN motor/pump and leaked down all over the place and the pump now no-longer runs
chazbolin
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Greg Richter, who designed and built this light has agreed to issue IAGLA his 3rd party test results whereby a comparative analysis may be performed over the claimed area coverage. In addition to watts at the wall we want to know how intensities, spectrums, uniformity and penetration play out. If, from a technical data comparison it makes sense to trial them we'll do so. We'll let you know when that data is available and posted on the IAGLA site.
https://www.iagla.org/technical-comparisons-side-by-side
https://www.iagla.org/technical-comparisons-side-by-side
doctorflux
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Philips doesn't make LEDs anymore.. they sold off Lumileds a while back
OneHitDone
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Brother @chazbolin , care to comment on the statements made about the Inda-gro Impact light here:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/inda-gro-impact-series-led-any-thoughts.946107/page-2#post-13983371
p0opstlnksal0t
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I'm thinking about running 4 of these one per 4x4 area in a 10x10 tent. If I dim to around 650-800w I'm hoping they can work OK with 7' ceilings
p0opstlnksal0t
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599 presage right now
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skoomd
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It is a piece of shit LED light. 1150w to equal a 1000w DEHPS? That is sad.
Pure garbage.
Not to mention all this talk about the owner, Greg. Seems like he doesnt know how to run a business at all. AVOID AT ALL COSTS is my recommendation.
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The Dawg
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I Have Been Tell Ya That for Years
PSUAGRO.
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Is the mirror lying to you again?I Have Been Tell Ya That for Years
CobKits
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what makes you think its only equivalent to a 1000W HPS? do they actually provide PPF output data
skoomd
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They claim it replaces a 1000w DEHPS. I wouldn't doubt it considering it's 1150w, but without any PPF/umol data it's a worthless statement.
Actually, to be honest they claim it replaces a double ended, not nessasarily a 1000w double ended mind you.
CobKits
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i didnt see that on their site
skoomd
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Check the graphic in the OP
Also a little hilarious tidbit from that graphic, "Avici is rated to run continuously for 32 years" LOL
TheChronicCrusader
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These guys must be full of shit.
Look at this comment they made on their instagram post
"PAR output we measured is approx 1800 uMole"
First "uMole"? Cmon. Second, "PAR"...meaning PPFD or PPF. They say they measured it approx. So we have to assume PPFD which of course means absolutely nothing without a distance reference.
"Comes in at 2.2 uMole/J at full, better when dimmed."
uMole again...how are they measuring this? Where is the LM79 report? How is it possible to sell a 1150w 2.2 uMol/J + LED for $600. Impossible.
These guys somehow built a light as efficient or more efficient than the best lights on the market added in spectral tuneability, doubled the typical wattage, and cut the price in half. Yeah right, fuck off.
Look at this comment they made on their instagram post
"PAR output we measured is approx 1800 uMole"
First "uMole"? Cmon. Second, "PAR"...meaning PPFD or PPF. They say they measured it approx. So we have to assume PPFD which of course means absolutely nothing without a distance reference.
"Comes in at 2.2 uMole/J at full, better when dimmed."
uMole again...how are they measuring this? Where is the LM79 report? How is it possible to sell a 1150w 2.2 uMol/J + LED for $600. Impossible.
These guys somehow built a light as efficient or more efficient than the best lights on the market added in spectral tuneability, doubled the typical wattage, and cut the price in half. Yeah right, fuck off.
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5suns
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Just wanted to say, don't order any lights from them. They just had a rep quit allegedly because they weren't paying him and it's all over FB and instagram. I'm telling you, the guy Greg doesn't know how to run a business and their 'no failures' is a crock. I have friends who bought in early and their lights are broke! Even friends who called me names for being so against everything revmicro were doing, their lights are broke and Greg is still claiming 0 failures. I have plenty of people who can corroborate this story, on facebook, you'll see everyone saying "Bill warned you guys months ago"