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jawbrodt

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sry to hear that Jaw, but hopefully you will share your wisdom with the rest of us! Looking forward to it....
LOL, Thanks man, let me try this again.....

Favourite seedshop/growshop, and also favourite website/usefull link regarding our hobby.

I haven't ordered any seeds yet, so I can't really say, with any certainty.

Here's a good link to help with plant deficincies/problems.... http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

What is your favourite commercial strain (you guys seem good at what you´re doing so I would like to know what you actually relax with, and grow for yourself)

Aside from bagseed, I've only grown Crystal and Velvet Ice, both of which were excellent strains.

A bottle producing co2 (carbon dioxide, obviously with a s-lock (water lock) or similar) in the room, benefit or waste of time?

If you have enough light intensity, CO2 is definitely of benefit. Once you start getting below 6,000 LSF(lumens per square foot), you'll start losing the benefits of supplementing CO2. Also, CO2 is effective in higher temps than normal, up around the mid-80's, or so.

What is your favourite germination method (most of us would like to know in simple words, and with lowcost materials), cotton is my way, stupid?? And when to put them in their future grow media?

I like to use the good ol' 'paper towel and dinner plate' method. As long as the 'very important' temperature, is right(around 80*), I get germination times of 36-72 hours, 4 days at most. Also, too much water will drown your seeds, 'moist' is what you're looking for.

What is the minimum you could grow 1m2 (square meter) (give it in 1 square foot if more usefull in the community) on? Wattage that is.

I'm not sure what you're asking? Yield? A good average would be about 150-200 grams/meter2, higher as you gain experience. I'd go no less than 400 watts, which'll put you just under 50 watts per square foot. A 6000 or bigger, will be much more effective in covering that area. Also, light placement, is the determining factor with yield, not wattage. If the light is too far away, all the wattage in the world, won't do you any good. Light intensity decreases dramatically(inverse square law) with distance, and a light meter is a very useful tool, in setting up your lights. It'll eliminate the guesswork, and can be bought for around $30 on Ebay. Well worth the money, IMO.

Lights in general, how do you rate LED, CFL (low energy bulbs), HPS (High Pressure Sodium), MH (Metal Halide) and CMH (Ceramic Metal Halide)?

LEDs? Well, I'm still not convinced that they are technologically advanced enough to replace the HIDs, except for a select few, which are pricey. If I was considering switching to LED, I'd do some research, looking at other grows, finding the LEDs that actually provide acceptable results. Alot of them are crap. Also, don't believe the hype that 126 watts of LED can replace 400-600 watts of HPS/MH, because it's bullshit. You damn near need equal wattage to get the same results, so don't let the advertisements fool you. :wink:

CFLs can provide excellent results, if you do your homework and set them up properly, and most important...use enough intensity.(at least 3000 LSF) More = more. Again, distance from the plant, is critical, or most of their intensity will be lost. Tube fluoros work well too, especially for vegging small to mid-sized plants(2' or less). Not so good for flowering though, due to lack of light penetration. But, they work well for SCROG, which was developed specifically for them.

If you want guaranteed results, go with HPS/MH. Simple and proven. :cool:

CMHs show great promise, having more red than HPS and more blue than MH. I can't wait to try them someday.

Most go for HPS/MH, what is the mimimum wattage, and what is optimal for a m2?

For HPS, you'd be stretching the limits of a 400 watt light, and a 600+, would be the best choice. As for MH, I wouldn't go any lower than a 600, because a 400 just doesn't have the intensity to cover that much area. 30" x 30" is pushing it. Trust me, I checked mine with a light meter.

Your best tip/philosophy on growing?

Don't be afraid to water them. A healthy plant is a 'water-processing machine', and should be watered heavily, each watering/feeding. As long as you let them dry out once a week,(approx.) you'll have nothing to worry about. Small plants(8" or less) are more suceptible to overwatering, because they don't process as much as the larger plants, especially if they are in a large pot. Smaller pots, can be watered heavily, as long as they are allowed to dry out afterwards. Also, you want to water when they get to that point just before wilting. If they begin wilting, you've waited too long, and need to water a tad sooner. Picking up the pots and feeling their weight, is the best way for you to fine-tune this process. Like everything, it takes time to get the hang of it, but is well worth the patience.

A Stoned Edit:lol

Also, last, but certainly not least.....light intensity is the fuel behind the whole grow, and goes hand-in-hand with it's spectrum. Plants do best when they have the optimum level(the absolute most they can possibly use) of intensity, of each of the specific color spectrums they require, or at least...can make use of, to some degree. For example(so even the stoned, will understand.lol :wink:),...for blue light, lets say that if cannabis is only able to use/absorb/process the wavelengths between 655 and 665 nanometers, I believe that a plant can achieve at it's absolute peak health and vigor, if this need is met,if it receives the absolute maximum intensity that a plant can process/use of each individual wavelength, 655, 656, 657, etc... Basically, light is everything, the single most influencial/beneficial aspect of growing, in determining the final quality, and yield, at harvest. The closer you can come to delivering those absolute "optimum light levels", the better your plant will perform. Plants are able grow, and grow well, under only one wavelength of red, and one wavelength of blue,(and many variations) light, like LED lights are designed. What I'm dragging out into a freakin novel, :lol: is that spectrum is very important, as is intensity. And, since LEDs don't fully cover all the useable spectrums of light, they're total piece's of crap.LOL :razz:

Ha, j/k LEDs are likely the next 'wave of the future', but IMO, aren't quite there yet, technology-wise. Take the extra money you were going to spend on them, and buy a killer HSP/MH setup, complete with the best of the best,(including top-notch ventilation, CO2, heat control, etc...) and still have money left over.(sad, isn't it?LOL) I'll wait until the developers get it perfected, then jump in, after I've been completely convinced, that they can produce finished plants that are nicer than, or at least equal to,(if I'm switching to LEDs for their other benefits) those that can be grown under the 'top of the line' HIDs. There are some models that are getting close, but aren't there yet, not that I've come across, yet. So, for now,...I'll sit back and wait until my HIDs are obsolete, and outperformed. :)

Watering in general, should you let the soil dry out or not? And how often do you give nutes? 1 out of 2 etc etc?

See above, about the watering.

I like to give nutes about every 5-7 days, approximately. 'Reading' your plants, is a good skill to learn, and will let you know exactly what you plants require, as their is no universal feeding schedule. Again, this takes time and experience, as each strain is different.

How to give nutes? Begin with, up to?

It's pretty universal to start with 1/4 strength, step up to 1/2 strength, then see how you plants are reacting, before moving to full strength. I think I pretty much covered the rest, in my response above. :)

Optimal growth temperature?

74* for bloom, and 78* for veg. With leeway, of course.

How "devastating" is it if your 12/12 (lightcycle in hours) plants get accidental light?

Well, the more "accidental light" they receive, the more they are at risk. If they are in the last 1-3 weeks of flowering, they'll be late enough into bloom, to have any real problems develop. Unless, it's a huge mistake, which could start to revert them back to veg, delaying harvest, and hurting yield.(airy buds)

Now, a couple of questions on very basic things that newbies get very diffenrent answers when asking.

When talking about 1st node to calculate lst (low stress training), topping and more. Which is the one to start on in your opinion?

I never really used LST, except to control tops that have grown taller than the rest, so I can't give any definite advice. If it were me, I wouldn't worry about the nodes too much, I'd wait til they were about 6" tall, then start, and let the nodes do their own thing, naturally.

Chop off leafes, or never touch them except for when they die/fade away?

No. I believe that if leaves are dying/yellowing, there's a good chance that the plant is using them for energy(due to the medium lacking some nutrient), and if you chop them off, the plant will be using other heathly leaves for energy. IMO, fix the medium, and let the leaves go. They'll fall off on their own. There's no need to chop them off, just to make your plants look prettier, even though it's tempting.:razz:

When will I see the preflowers, when will I know the sex?

If you know what to look for, a plant that's growing healthy will show sex at 4-5 weeks of veg, under normal veg hours. That's a good skill to pick up, saving time and grow space, by eliminating the males early. Study, study, study.....

Topping them, when? Node?

That depends on what results you're looking for. Your imagination is the limit, so just keep in mind that the plant will split in two, at each place it's topped.

Lst, when? Node?

I don't believe that the node is important, I'd wait til it's around 6" tall, then start with LST. Everything else will happen on it's own, almost magically.lol

Yield, what is minimum if you go trough a flowering stage?

Well, all my plants were around 3' tall, topped 2-3 times, and I average about 70 grams per plant. I never really experimented with any other sizes, so I can offer any more info, than that. :)

Male plant, pros and cons throwing it away. What could it be used for?

Trash 'em, unless you plan to use the pollen for seed breeding. Don't bother making hash out of them, because they have very few trichs, and it isn't really worth all the effort. You could chop them and use them for compost, but that takes alot of time too, and isn't any benefit, if your medium is already properly 'seasoned'.

best PH for soil?

I shoot for about 6.5, and don't panic as long as it stays within 7.0 and 6.0, give or take a little.

best NPK ratios for container gardening?

Hmm...all I can say, is to use the proper ferts according to the stage that the plant is in. If it's in bloom, use ferts designed for bloom, and vice-versa.

And finally, worst stressfactor for a plant? Except for drowning it, thats no stress, thats execution :wink:

I'd have to say that overfert is what I see doing the most damage in growing, and the most common mistake. Remember...more food doesn't equal bigger plants. They only process whatever they require, and can't be force-fed.

Pheew, this time I was smart enough to 'copy' my response, so I don't lose it again. I'm a terribly slow typist. :lol:
 

jawbrodt

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^Ditto that. :cool:

Yeah, I took a little break, was kinda busy painting and stuff around the house, but should have more time to hang, now that I'm getting caught up with my many unfinished projects.lol


EDIT: Have you got any results with the CMHs? I don't have much time right now, but if I get back later, I'll look at your grow journal, and see how your making out.
 

riddleme

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Hey NewHarvester

Don't feel bad that not every one replied/answered if you had posted it this upcomming weekend I would not have seen it, as I am moving and will be offline for a few days while we get hookedup at the new house

Fdd is in the middle of his new grow and his thread is hoppin so he is busy

I was answering as many questions as I could yesterday knowing that I would be busy in a few days, for me it is fun, kinda like chilin in front of a good movie only more productive and you never know others may join in at later times if the thread stays alive

and if you choose to follow my ramblings I am humbled as always, don't do it for praise or rep, as I say all the time I do it for the love of this plant and what it gives me
 

LadyKimi

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Harvester,
I think u have to understand just how many times the "pros" have answered these questions AND how many other threads trying to get their answers together to try and cut down all the "URGENT MY PLANT IS * HOURS OLD IS THIS SEX?" questions. To us this is an exercise, to them it is mostly a futile one.

In the short time we've been here I have probably seen 50 "How do I water my plants" Q's. Enough to make me cranky over the million of people that cant be bothered to read a page and always want the "quick" answer...

Excellent original Qs though!

Kimi
 

DST

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Excellent thread Newbieharvester.....+rep.

After readin Tapla and riddlemes answers I don't think there is a great deal to add.

One comment though:
What is your favourite germination method (most of us would like to know in simple words, and with lowcost materials), cotton is my way, stupid?? And when to put them in their future grow media?
For soil?=Find 16-20oz. cup (don't forget the holes!), fill with soil, water soil, plant seed, cover with clingfilm, remove clingfilm when sprout appears. If your soil has more structure (ie. chunkier) you can put a little well of peat (1x1 inch) in the center for the seed. The plant can stay in this cup for quite a while. Pop the plant out of its cup (carefully!) after 3 or 4 nodes to see if the roots are close to colonizing the entire cup. Transplant before plant gets root-bound. Good philosophy to follow; if you can see the roots, you can do damage to them. Yes, there are a plethora of ways to germinate seeds and in the end, the germination results fall within 10% of each other and a day sooner or later. So, no big gains or losses either way--just a seed or a day difference.

I would disagree with the part about seeing the roots and damaging them. Correct if a root is exposed to air and light the root tip will die off. But my good old pals in Scotland have come up with neat growing pots that utilise exactly that, root tips dying off which promote more roots branching from the main tap root. This actually creates a better root structure...check it out:
http://www.superoots.com/air_intro.htm
 

KlosetKing

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very good thread. iam actually surprised not one of the 'pros' have listed chipping the shell for germination. granted i think i know why (easy to damage, can infect the seed, etc) but, thought i would throw it out there that i have had great luck with it, you just need to be careful (practiced on 2 shitty bagseeds and by then i had the process down pat) and for the cautious among us, sandpaper to just kinda thin the shell a little bit also works really well.

all 6 of my plants have been chipped before germination (i am no pro, these are my first 2 grows) and i have had 100% germ rate so far, all of them having a taproot exposed a little less than an inch within about 18hrs or less.
 

DST

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Thx DST, very much appreciated! Rep wasn´t needed since those should go to you all helping us newbies, I´m just good putting togheter pieces, YOUR pieces!
So I think I´ll let this project die since noone (apart from you guys) actually answer, this may be due to good answers from you guys, or just because there is no interest.

Said that, I do know that my questions aren´t complete, but I do read, and would have filled up with known facts. Also various halftruths that most of you seem to agree on.

PS!
Is there a 250w club as well? ;) Amazing how well my 6 little girls do under that sun, 2 of them responding so well to LST! The others are safe at the moment, but all of the rest will be topped in various ways.
Not sure if there is a 250 club or not...you should kick one off!!
 

riddleme

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there is a 250 club and some really great growers in the thread, I have read the whole thing and it is full of good stuff

check it out, mindmeld (could have it wrong) and doubious are awesome growers
 

doc111

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The only thing I want to add is if you're having problems and you think you've exhausted all possiblities and still can't figure out what's wrong, look into the water you are using. This is as true for soil growers as it is for hydro. I had major issues with my tapwater which is extremely hard (600 ppm)! Water quality is one of the most overlooked things because people think that water is water. Trust me on this one; all water is not the same! I have a water thread which covers most aspects of purification and types of problems you can have with different types of water. Just click on the link in my signature if anyone has questions about water. Best of luck and happy growing!:eyesmoke:
 
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