Riot seeds

Bad Karma said:

I'm a big fan of your work, gen. You and I have always gotten along well on this forum. That is why I'm taking this moment to warn you, dude, stay far away from Matt Riot.

Here's my history with Matt Riot:

Matt Riot and I were both members of The Seed Depot forum, when it was still up and running, so this goes back a few years. Matt had been talking up his genetics in his breeders thread and it peaked my interest. So I throw "Riot Seeds" into Google to find out more. The second listing in the search was for Matt Riot's facebook, so I clicked on it. While reading thought the page I notice that Matt's real life facebook was linked to his seed company's facebook. Meaning his real life identity and location were available to the public. So I go back on TDS forums and tell Matt. He's says he didn't know that info was out there and he thanks me for telling him so he can fix it.

A couple of days later, around a dozen brand new TDS forum members, with their very first post, start accusing me of trying to expose Matt Riot's identity. I tell them that's not the case at all, you actually have it backwards, just ask Matt. But Mr. Riot stayed absolutely silent and doesn't say a word. These new members say that they're friends with Matt in real life and that he said that I was trying to expose his identity. They stated that Matt was too scared to even go online anymore and that's why he wasn't responding. Ultimately I was banned for trying to expose a forum members identity, which just to reiterate, is the exact opposite of what I did. Once I was banned, Matt Riot began posting again, and started by saying "Fuck that guy, I'm glad he got banned, that's what he gets for trying to grass me out! He deserves worse!"

The moral of this tale, regardless of any other accusations against Matt Riot, I can tell you from first hand experience that the guy is not stable. Just look at how he responded to me, thanks me one day, then the next day makes up a bunch of puppet accounts to get me banned from the site. WTF?
Matt Riot can not be trusted on any level and is a danger to everyone he interacts with.

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kona gold said:

Who knows, maybe he got super paranoid, and reacted out of that paranoia badly.
Cause if identity is exposed, you can be looking at some serious jail time.
So wouldn't take that personal.

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Bad Karma said:

Okay, lets try to follow your logic.

Riot gets super paranoid that his identity got exposed (by his own sloppiness, mind you). So he attacks the one person, who for sure saw his information, and could therefore expose him? Wouldn't you want to make friends with that person rather than make an enemy of them? Remember I approached him with this information on good terms, as a friendly heads up, and he initially responded in kind.

Paranoid, or not, he fucked up, and then took his frustration out on me.
That is a complete bitch move. So, I'm sorry, but your logic just doesn't hold up.

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jayblaze710 said:

And? Riot is playing the same game as everyone else, using the same toys, but his product costs many times anyone else. And it’s not like there’s big demand for them either, not like aficionado. It’s just not a valid excuse for his prices. He intentionally produces small batches of seeds and lists high prices to create the impression of them having a high value.

The only exception - Smellboat. I’ve heard from many people that Smellboat breeds some high quality stuff. I don’t know if they’re worth the super high prices, but at least you know with his product the quality is good. Cant say I’ve heard the same about Riot.

And how can you possibly defend his actions? There’s an abundance of information in this thread alone that shows he’s an unstable asshole. There are so many breeders around now. Why support and defend this prick?

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trippnface said:

Or maybe I am not a " hater" and have actually done my research.

YOU HURT MY FEELINGS </3

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jayblaze710 said:

And? Riot is playing the same game as everyone else, using the same toys, but his product costs many times anyone else. And it’s not like there’s big demand for them either, not like aficionado. It’s just not a valid excuse for his prices. He intentionally produces small batches of seeds and lists high prices to create the impression of them having a high value.

The only exception - Smellboat. I’ve heard from many people that Smellboat breeds some high quality stuff. I don’t know if they’re worth the super high prices, but at least you know with his product the quality is good. Cant say I’ve heard the same about Riot.

And how can you possibly defend his actions? There’s an abundance of information in this thread alone that shows he’s an unstable asshole. There are so many breeders around now. Why support and defend this prick?

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kona gold said:

Man, look, I see the vicious shit that happens on these forums, and on Facebook, Twitter.....I just don't buy into all that stuff.
If he is friends with Bodhi, Loompa, Rev, that's a pretty good rep to me.
So unlyou think those guys are assholes to, then so be it!

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Tangerine_ said:

I agree with you about all the fuckery that happens in the bean bizz but it doesn't really makes sense to give someone extra points because of who they're associated with.

Did anyone ever stop and think that maybe in a business thats federally illegal these guys are just playing it smart with their fellow business associates?
I had to do it for years working along side law enforcement.

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Bakersfield said:

I read that Smell Boat was going to start his own site and making his seeds more available. I wonder if his pricing will go down?
His brothers biz, Madd Farmer is pretty affordable.
I don't know how paranoid Matt Riot can be when he is having live videos of him almost daily on Instagram, talking shit about people talking shit..

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Bakersfield said:

I read that Smell Boat was going to start his own site and making his seeds more available. I wonder if his pricing will go down?
His brothers biz, Madd Farmer is pretty affordable.
I don't know how paranoid Matt Riot can be when he is having live videos of him almost daily on Instagram, talking shit about people talking shit..

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kona gold said:

You could say the same about Archive, JJ, and others.

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Bakersfield said:

I read that Smell Boat was going to start his own site and making his seeds more available. I wonder if his pricing will go down?
His brothers biz, Madd Farmer is pretty affordable.
I don't know how paranoid Matt Riot can be when he is having live videos of him almost daily on Instagram, talking shit about people talking shit..

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Bakersfield said:

If I saw him in public I'd know who he was in a heartbeat.
I think he thrives off the drama and if he leaves innocent victims in the process, that ain't cool, but a lot of these breeders are dick heads and it's good someone can call them out on their shit.
The dudes entertaining and seems pretty knowledgeable to me.
He may be hated by half, but that leaves the other half on his side, right?

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trippnface said:

Or maybe I am not a " hater" and have actually done my research.

YOU HURT MY FEELINGS </3

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18B said:

Ok....i have grown his shit...known him personally...etc.
I dont like him as a breeder, a person, or a human being...i think and know him to be sub human.
His genetics are shit and so are his breeding practices.
If u choose to be a customer, so be it. It is your choice. You might find something nice if you like wading in a sea of shit and paying a high price to do so.
Bodhi would befriend the rattlesnake that just fatally bit him.
Be his friend or associate and expect to be fucked or shit talked behind your back like a little bitch...never an ioda of testosterone.
If this is what you want, and want to perpetuate and support this morally unscrupulous piece of shit...then by all means, purchase and text away how you have great genetics and a new bff.

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