Rip's 3,200 watt sealed shed w/co2 -medical grow-
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quickrip
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After the flush this week they look worse not better. Its a real disapointment to go into the shed at the moment. The leaves are falling off everywhere at a way faster rate than normal. Almost all big fan leaves are now gone and I know thats not good for plant production. So Im at a loss for what to do exept wait it out a bit. Ive dropped my ppm to 650 and am only watering now once a day since it seems they arent using much water and the rockwool is staying wet.
I want to blame some of the problem on weak genetics (mostly cause it makes me feel better) cause I have the one sr-71 purple kush clone that looks amazing. It has no yellowing at all bud production hasnt slowed a bit and not even a burnt tip or curl. Heres a few pics of my sorry looking grow table, and the beautiful pk plant. Please feel free to give recommendations or comments, all info is helpful.
The wonder woman droopy and yellow with spotting
The pk looking perfect as can be (unless of course youve seen raiderfans lately- Holy shit thats perfect!)
I want to blame some of the problem on weak genetics (mostly cause it makes me feel better) cause I have the one sr-71 purple kush clone that looks amazing. It has no yellowing at all bud production hasnt slowed a bit and not even a burnt tip or curl. Heres a few pics of my sorry looking grow table, and the beautiful pk plant. Please feel free to give recommendations or comments, all info is helpful.
The wonder woman droopy and yellow with spotting
The pk looking perfect as can be (unless of course youve seen raiderfans lately- Holy shit thats perfect!)
#1Raiderfan420
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Are you sure they aren't suffering from over watering? That is what it looks like to me. How big are your rockwool cubes? The pm looks great man, it might be drinking faster than the other girls. It's easy to see it has to be somewhat strain related because the pm looks so good. I would let them dry out a bit and see if that helps. I know you will get it worked though man .
quickrip
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They are in 6 inch cubes and were never very wet until the problems started. I think now theyare drinking less for sure, but I will dry them out and see what that does for me. Thanks dude.
Jozikins
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Those look exactly like my Sour OG plant's after I flushed for a few days without any nutes. And I still regret it, I had to install an A/C to get them to start to recover after the flush. They just couldn't take the 80-88f temperature anymore. After that, I added B-1 and a big phosphorus boost (all from MOAB by Mad Farmer) they have started to recover and have gone back into full bud production.
That purplish discoloration on your leaves that starts in the middles and goes outward is a phosphorus deficiency and those leaves will stay like that even after you fix the problem. But normal growth should resume with a normal color. Just cut off that other leaf where it looks like the tip got dipped in the deep fryer, it is just going to get worse and die. I have tried just cutting off the messed up part, but the problem doesn't stop, the leaf will continue to die, and sap precious energy away from your girls
Starting with a weak feeding is was a good idea, I'd bring them up slowly and then blast them as long as possible. Doing a 1/4 strength foliar spray is also recommended with all your nutes that state they are capable of doing so. Or at least some VermiT, which can be picked up premade in a fridge bag at a Hydro store or in concentrated do-it-yourself bricks. You can use that in a foliar or root feeding at any stage of growth, and it's like viagra for your plants! Highly recommended. Mix it with your organic mix. But beware, it'll sour in 24 hours if unfridgerated, sometimes in 48hours, if temps are good. But be careful. If left in the fridge it'll last a week, these same rules apply when it is mixed to your nutrients, and sour nutrients could kill your crop in your sleep.
This is my best advice for you. I just got over this hump and resumed normal flowering growth. It set me 2 weeks back during my 9th week of flowering. It's what I get for flushing so late when changing my nutrient feed as well as flushing some early finishers. Stupid beginner move, or possibly weak genetics.
That purplish discoloration on your leaves that starts in the middles and goes outward is a phosphorus deficiency and those leaves will stay like that even after you fix the problem. But normal growth should resume with a normal color. Just cut off that other leaf where it looks like the tip got dipped in the deep fryer, it is just going to get worse and die. I have tried just cutting off the messed up part, but the problem doesn't stop, the leaf will continue to die, and sap precious energy away from your girls
Starting with a weak feeding is was a good idea, I'd bring them up slowly and then blast them as long as possible. Doing a 1/4 strength foliar spray is also recommended with all your nutes that state they are capable of doing so. Or at least some VermiT, which can be picked up premade in a fridge bag at a Hydro store or in concentrated do-it-yourself bricks. You can use that in a foliar or root feeding at any stage of growth, and it's like viagra for your plants! Highly recommended. Mix it with your organic mix. But beware, it'll sour in 24 hours if unfridgerated, sometimes in 48hours, if temps are good. But be careful. If left in the fridge it'll last a week, these same rules apply when it is mixed to your nutrients, and sour nutrients could kill your crop in your sleep.
This is my best advice for you. I just got over this hump and resumed normal flowering growth. It set me 2 weeks back during my 9th week of flowering. It's what I get for flushing so late when changing my nutrient feed as well as flushing some early finishers. Stupid beginner move, or possibly weak genetics.
#1Raiderfan420
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Hey quick, here are a couple links I have bookmarked that I refer to often that may help.
https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/216537-self-diagnose-your-plants.html
http://www.onlinepot.org/grow/nutrients2.htm
http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plants-problems/25983-nutrients-bugs-various-problems-guide.html
https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/216537-self-diagnose-your-plants.html
http://www.onlinepot.org/grow/nutrients2.htm
http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plants-problems/25983-nutrients-bugs-various-problems-guide.html
JeffersonBud
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Usually about a half an inch.
quickrip
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Thanks for all the help guys. I think after another good look at symptoms I feel that the wonder woman are rootbound which causes them to be easily nute burned and often have droopy leaves. So today Ill add 4 in slabs under my 6 in cubes. This also would explain why the pk is doing so well, cause its only 1/3 the size of the others. They are also too wet at the moment and will get no waterings till tomarrow if dry by then. Maybe the next day.
#1Raiderfan420
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Good call quick. That just might put them back in gear. Good vibes to you my friend.
theloadeddragon
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flush..... :/
quickrip
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WELL FUCK ME!!! Just transplanted my clones to 6" cubes and noticed some symptoms on them as well. Low and behold Ive got an infestation causing my problems. Bugs everywhere I feel so dumb. Never even crossed my mind. Need to figure out which kind of bugs ive got and kill the little fuckers. At least I know my problem now. No wonder flushing didnt help them out.
#1Raiderfan420
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Oh Shit, what do they look like?
quickrip
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Like little white crabs I think I have spider mites, but I think that this isnt the problem with big plants. I did find a few affected areas but I think that this is mostly in my veg area. Either way they need to be killed now.
#1Raiderfan420
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Look at the underside of the bad looking fans with loop, if you have mites you will know.
JeffersonBud
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Hot shots pest strips. THey can be found at the local grocery store or walgreens ect... They work wonders!
theloadeddragon
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Spidermite Battle Plan 
Really cold temps (below 55-60 degrees as often as possible for two to three weeks), increased humidity (60% + constantly!), and garlic sprays (mix your own or buy some, and soak the shit out of your plants just before lights out, three applications over the two week cold period, thorough and aggressive, don't leave an inch of plant mass uncovered, and spray the walls and floor of your room as well, then water rinse the whole area). Bleach clean your room and equipment both before and after the 2 week cold period. Don't use the neem until after you have done all of that,. Two post cold period applications of neem oil just to ensure they don't move right back in on you, , you can use a garlic barrier to help with that as well
Really cold temps (below 55-60 degrees as often as possible for two to three weeks), increased humidity (60% + constantly!), and garlic sprays (mix your own or buy some, and soak the shit out of your plants just before lights out, three applications over the two week cold period, thorough and aggressive, don't leave an inch of plant mass uncovered, and spray the walls and floor of your room as well, then water rinse the whole area). Bleach clean your room and equipment both before and after the 2 week cold period. Don't use the neem until after you have done all of that,
. Two post cold period applications of neem oil just to ensure they don't move right back in on you, , you can use a garlic barrier to help with that as well
Jozikins
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So you probably already told this to yourself a hundred times since you got mites, but you should probably clear away any plant life around your shed and clear a rock or dirt path from your home to your shed. Keep weeds in check around the base of the shed and never enter the shed after touching any outdoor foliage without a shower and clean clothes. Prevent further outbreaks.