RIU, You chose it, I'm growing it. Fucking Incredible!

They look huge

For just 24 days into floweer they are very substantial. I expect that FI is at the very least a good yielder. All of these plants have many tops so I don't think we'll see giant donkey dick buds, but the overall yield I'm expecting to get very close to 1lb. I wasn't sure at first, but I can see that these plants are going to just explode with growth.

I have my feedings pretty light right now as well, they are @ about 700ppm right now. This seems to be where the water level and nutrient level fall at the same rate. They look a little hungry so this weel I'll bump them up again to 800ppm and see what the reaction is. When I tried them that high previously the ppm started rising daily and quickly so I dropped it, but the plants are obviously growing and so are their needs.

fuckin eh! time is flying, day 24 already, those are some fat buds, you shoulda kept the hydro vs soil going, who says its a crap strain, might pump out some potent shit

hey laser... our plants are the same age ....
We both sprouted our seedling on the 16th of november.....
give or take a couple days.....
That is why i subscribed.....
Somehow im a couple weeks ahead in flower... u must have vegged longer....
But those girls look damn good for 26 days in flower.....Great node spacing bernie!
My setup is not as advanced as yours..... i do soil and only have a crumbumb 400hps and a t5.....
if u want to check it heres a link.....
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/273251-grow-part-iii-og-grape.html

now i'm watching.

HookedOnChronic said:

fuckin eh! time is flying, day 24 already, those are some fat buds, you shoulda kept the hydro vs soil going, who says its a crap strain, might pump out some potent shit

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I technically haven't stopped it. I transplanted the 6 soil plants into their pots and they are still sitting right next to the hydro plants. I never disconnected the pump on that side so the hydro plants are still growing and are getting ready to take off. I have a friend that is planning to come pick them up, but if he ends up flaking today I might just fuckin' do it. I know it might all be for not, except I still won't have to grow over the summer and I'll have something to smoke. So officially it's still postponed but in reality it's still going and I might just finish it through. My tax return came already and I have the money for the lights, carbon filters and ventilation. I'll waste the same $$$ doing one summer grow on additional A/C costs.

I want to add 1400w to my current setup and run it through the winter for 12 hours/day.

My portable A/C runs & 1800w and would need to stay on DAMN near the entire 12 hour cycle to grow through the summer. Add on that I run my A/C quite a bit to keep my place cool while I'm home and the tiered billing and I'm just shooting myself in the face by not growing in the winter and stocking enough to not have to grow in the summer.

Fuckin' summer electric bills were hittin' 500 bucks/mo just to grow with my 600w setup and not have to roast to death in my 2 bedroom apartment.

Fuck, that's retarded now I'm running about 1000w (veg and flower) and I'm planning to run 1800w (3x flower, no moer veg) and finish it all up by the end of april and be done until fall/winter again. I'm currently paying $280/mo about for the electricity on this place and I expect it'll go up to about $350-$400 when I run 3x 600w for flower and I'll have to run it like that for 2 months for flower so it'll be $800 in electricity bills (including my living) for 2 months and I'll grow 2.5lbs (goal) instead of 2 summer months where I pay $1000 and I get 13oz's? Lights fuckin' pay for themselves in one year and I don't have the extra headache of growing all summer.

Add on that I could rent that room out for 5 months @ $600-$700/mo and it's lookin' like the only way to go. I don't have to, but I can and I won't always live in this apartment. It gives me the option to move into a house in June when my lease is us up too because I don't have a grow I'm worrying about at the time. It's just win - win - win. This was a long rant, that DP White Widow is still kickin' me in the balls after all this time smokin' it, damn.

Long story short....If the guy doesn't show up and take the hydro clones tonight I'll buy 2 new lights and finish the hydro vs. soil. If he does come by I'll give him the hydro plants (he needs something for his setup) and I'll finish the soil plants BEHIND this grow in this tent and I'll quickly find some clones for myself to do the side by side within 30 days. Regardless it'll happen, and there's a good chance it still continues on from where it was and we're well underway.


Edit: I can't believe I ranted that long and delete it before hitting submit....haha, fuck it, this is my thread.

laserbrn said:

Flush the plants? What do you expect me to do? These plants are growing in hydro.

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Ha ha don't i look like a fool....lmao. True stoner moment!

I go away for a minute, come back, and Buddage all over the place! Good shit Laser

Very nice laserbrn. I am also running parallel to you at the moment with flowering times I think.


Peace, DST

The yellowing is spreading as I'm just starting the 5th week of flower. It seems to be yellowing in the middle leaves of the plant. I've checked the ph and it's all good. I double checked my pumps to make sure I wasn't watering too often and found I might be watering to seldom. I added another watering cycle bringing it to watering 5x per day for 15 minutes each time. The problem almost looks like it's root related, but the roots look healthy and not slimy or jacked up.

Today is 28 days (start of week 5) so it's time to flush the reservoir and to reset everything and use Overdrive for a couple of weeks.

There is a very good chance this plant is just really underfed as I had the ppm @ 700ppm and they grew very vigorously this past week. I bumped it up to 900 last night although I'm flushing it tonight. After this flush there isn't a whole lot more that I can do so hopefully they hold out and make it to the end. It's also not every plant, it's really 2 of the 6 and they are going really yellow while the others are staying green, consequently it's the two largest plants. So I'm trying to strike a balance and I'm still confident this is going to be good shit. I don't know why people have abandonded this strain at least thus far, it certainly LOOKS really good, but have to wait until the end for the final verdict.

add a little nitrogen.

hi laserbrn, I hear you on your yellowing leafs, both my Casey Jones are yellowing quite rapidly as well. I have started to give them extra feeds now so lets hope they come through ok. It all started happening when i changed my MH out for an HPS bulb. Hope yours work out, on a positive note, perhaps a good sign of the fat buds to come....
Peace,

DST

Oh man, everything on the lower part's of the plants has gone limp. I'm leaning towards Pythium (sp?) now which sucks. The plants are pretty lifeless and I don't think that they'll end up making it. Of course I'll see it through as far as I can, but it seems almost pointless now.

I've never had to deal with this myself, but I know it's near impossible to reverse it. My temps are good and the roots get plenty of oxygen so I don't know how it started, but it's almost certainly what's going on now.

I cut the water pump so make sure it's not just some overwatering (should know in about 12 hours.

You can see how much damage it's done in just a week so I'm fairly sure it's the culprit. I just don't understand how I could've gotten root rot with all this hydroton. I'm watering 4x /day and perhaps that's too much because of the rockwool cubes in each pot.

anyway here's pictures, they were growing pretty nicely until this all of a sudden popped up. When I saw the leaves last friday I though it could be root related and tried using hygrozyme, but I know that once it starts it's very difficult to control or reverse it.

Any insight into a course of action would be appreciated.

so basically this strain droops like a fucker?

they look like they are trying to finish up as trippy as that sounds, what do u think? is it past day 30?

they will make it if they are close to the end, how crystally are they?

and try what FDD said at the top of the page

HookedOnChronic said:

so basically this strain droops like a fucker?

they look like they are trying to finish up as trippy as that sounds, what do u think? is it past day 30?

they will make it if they are close to the end, how crystally are they?

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Yeah, they are drooping like a motherfucker! That's what's pointing me in the direction of root rot, the yellowing leaves, the necrosis, and the drooping. Without the drooping I don't necessarily know it's root rot, I have mesh-bottom pots and the roots on the bottom look healthy and good.

I think I know what is wrong with this entire setup and I'm going to avoid making this mistake the next time around. The 4x4" rockwool cubes are too low in this pot, either need bigger pots or smaller cubes. The floods are reaching up to the rockwool cubes and they are retaining WAY too much moisture. So the plants are watering 4-5 times per day (which I'd like to do more) and the bottoms of the roots are drying out in between. The tops are in a giant mushy rockwool soaked cube and are prone to problems.

I've cut my watering completely off (dark cycle) and I'll leave them that way for a long time to let those rockwool cubes dry out. Once the lights come back on they should dry out quickly. I'm going to lower my my flood levels below the bottom of the rockwool cubes and I'll increase my waterings.

Strange thing is that the plants do look like they are just trying to finish in the pictures, but that's not how I'm seeing it in real life.

They are about 4 1/2 weeks into flower at this point and I can't think it's part of the natural senesence at this point. The purpling in the leaves is more pronounced than I thought. I only get to see them with the HPS on the room is otherwise dark so when the lights out I don't see them until I actually see the pictures. They are quite crystally already too, it could be the worlds fastest flowering strain, but it's highly unlikely.

Try a H2o2 dunk. Mix up an extra strong batch of water and H2o2, then dunk each plant.
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/how-grow-marijuana/72169-how-do-i-identify-prevent-root-rot.html

looks like they need water with a bump of nitrogen.

fdd2blk said:

looks like they need water with a bump of nitrogen.

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That's what I thought too, but I added a watering cycle and it got worse. Generally when they are underwatered they perk right back up, these got worse with more water. There's no leaf curling to indicate overwatering, but I'll follow the advice of fdd2blk here, he's a pro. I'll hook that pump back up and I'll up the watering another cycle and see if it straightens them out. I did change out the reservoir and I didn't put in overdrive or any other bloom enhancers. @ 900ppm now and the nutes are 5.8-5-9.1 which should be plenty of nitrogen.

wait, wait, wait, ......


i suck indoors. don't listen to me. i was just guessing and throwing out some ideas.

over watering can look just the same and i have never done hydro or gotten root rot so i really have no idea. i just always try to go the simplest route first. you would know better than me at this point.