RIU, You chose it, I'm growing it. Fucking Incredible!

Just a thought. "Hydrogen peroxide is also added to nutrient solutions when there is suspicion that the anaerobic pythium root rot mold has begun to proliferate on the roots' surfaces. The oxygen liberated from the hydrogen peroxide is destructive to single celled organisms and is administered in dosages which vary with the concentration of the peroxide; typically several tablespoons of 3.5% solution per gallon or more; the temporary raising of oxygenation is only minimally damaging to roots while eradicating the water born mold can significantly increase yield or even save a crop's viability."

The H2o2 dunk is supposed to help root rot, if that's what the problem is. (Nothing completely fixes it I believe)

Ptone said:

Just a thought. "Hydrogen peroxide is also added to nutrient solutions when there is suspicion that the anaerobic pythium root rot mold has begun to proliferate on the roots' surfaces. The oxygen liberated from the hydrogen peroxide is destructive to single celled organisms and is administered in dosages which vary with the concentration of the peroxide; typically several tablespoons of 3.5% solution per gallon or more; the temporary raising of oxygenation is only minimally damaging to roots while eradicating the water born mold can significantly increase yield or even save a crop's viability."

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wow great first post welcome to RIU

Straight up G said:

wow great first post welcome to RIU

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Thanks! Keep an eye out for my First grow Journal 250W HPS OG Kush. Cheers

Ptone said:

Thanks! Keep an eye out for my First grow Journal 250W HPS OG Kush. Cheers

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Thanks...I'm going to eliminate simple overwatering and I'll go right now to the hydro store to get some H2o2. If cutting back on watering doesn't solve the problem (I did add a watering cycle this week and they did start drooping this week) then tomorrow I will start using H2o2. It definitely looks like a root problem to me of some sort, but the overall health of the bottom roots just has me thinking maybe not (and the fact that I sure as shit don't want it to be). I've never had problems with root rot, but this is a new system for me (with the buckets) and I've heard that the ebb & grow systems which are similar in a lot of ways can have this problem. the rockwool's too wet, the hydroton is too dry and it's hard to strike a balance. I'm going to use much larger pots next time and I'm going to use 1x1 rockwool cubes only on the next go around. I'm just overall unhappy with rockwool these days. Right now in my head I'm seeing rotte balls of rockwool shit in the middle of these pots and it seems almost like an inevitability at this point. So if drying it out seems to help I'm going to do as I said and lower the flood level and increase the # of floods...decrease the duration of the floods.

If drying doesn't work, I'll add watering cycles, but generally underwatered plants bounce back with a good watering....the prolonged droop here just leads me to believe it's going the other way.

Oh no... good luck!

fuckin ey guy learn to grow wtf. you shoulda pissed on em.

JMAR2837 said:

fuckin ey guy learn to grow wtf. you shoulda pissed on em.

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wow what a pathetic first post from a little bitch

Straight up G said:

wow what a pathetic first post from a little bitch

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Haha....don't get all bent, that's a guy who I know has a lot of respect for my ability. He's someone that I actually know who think's he's funny.

Here's an update....I decided to apply a bit of the scientific method here because I couldn't decide what to do and something needed to be done. I disconnected my pump and ran a hose to one of the plants so that plant has been getting ridiculous amounts of water while the others have gotten very little water.

Over the past 12 hours the plant that has received the extra water is doing much better. The necrosis and the limp lower leaves are still present, but I would say much improved. So I've hooked the pump back up the regular way and I'm now watering 10 times/day instead of 5. I dug out on of the rockwool cubes a little bit to see it's moisture level and it's actually bone dry.

So FDD I think you were right, underwatering and a nitrogen bump. The extra nitrogen seems to have drastically slown the necrosis (although oddly enough it burned the leaf tips just a smidge. I think they'll make it through to the ened although it's early to say now, but I'm at 4 1/2 weeks and things seem to be holding on. We'll see how things turn out, but I'm a lot more optimistic now than I was previously, at least I have a REASON to believe that watering 4x-5x /day is too little. The rockwool isn't absorbing as much moisture as I feared.

those are crazy for 4.5 weeks, if that turns out to be potent smoke then those are wicked seeds

just seemed way harsh is all someone said the same to me a while ago for real and I will never speak to them again, anyway I gonna stop spazing up your journal ha ha gl

Straight up G said:

just seemed way harsh is all someone said the same to me a while ago for real and I will never speak to them again, anyway I gonna stop spazing up your journal ha ha gl

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Yeah, he's trying to be funny because he knows this is really bothering me.

So I was starting to get concerned as the plants started to REALLY yellow and they started to look like overall shit and then it hit me....

If you google Fucking Incredible and look at grow journals that are done what do you notice? The plants are all yellow and purple, I can't find one that has finished green (that isn't a cross and even most crosses seem kinda fucked up in the end).

The buds are growing nicely and I'm determined to work harder on this one for the next grow to see if I can't get them to stay greener longer. They just look like they are 7 weeks old and they aren't yet 5 weeks old but they've perked up and I'm just going to finish them out and keep them as strong as possible as long as possible.

I'm really curious now to see if anyone has any green solid pictures of FI in flower. I know there were some who subscribed to this thread that have grown it if you have pics of what it SHOULD look like, that would be appreciated.

how maky days 12/12 are you? they look about just like they should as far as i can tell in the pics.

Laserbrn, really hope these girls go through for you. It's funny that you are having this issue. I am growing 2 Casey Jones just now and they have lost quite a few fan leaves of late...to the point where we are having a discussion on the Club 600 about yellowing leaves later in flowering......I think I will maintain what they get until the end as the smell and bud just looks dynamite...

Good luck with it,

DST

Those pictures were "Friday Pics" and today I'm @ 5 weeks, so I'd say those were day 30-31.

Yeah, DST, I'm on the side of keeping your leaves as green as possible throughout flower. I took a long time growing that foliage and I guess it just pisses me off to see it go. Those are the solar panels for the plants, I already know that I need to do what I can to keep it in check so I have a good solid top canopy to gather light. Soem of my leaf drop is becasue the canopy is thick and light doesn't penetrate, so I'm going to focus on keeping the tops green as can be until the end.

Laser what ever happened with this grow? the thread just died....

I_Miss_OG said:

Laser what ever happened with this grow? the thread just died....

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Wow...I haven't updated this thread in awhile!! The plants are sleeping right now, but I'll get some pictures up tomorrow morning. The plants look pretty good, they are now @ 6 weeks of 12/12.

As promised I have some updated pictures. The leaf drop on these plants was definitely excessive. We're 6 weeks into flower now and heading towards the "home stretch". They aren't massive, they aren't poor producers either, I'll bet I average about 2 zips per plant. Right around 12 - 13 oz's when it's all said and done. No way of knowing just yet, but overall I'm pretty unhappy with this grow.

I couldn't get the plants happy no matter what I tried and I have two more tries at it coming up now.

Just for shits and giggles and because I hate repeating history I may actually switch away from Advanced Nutrients for flowering my next set. Not every strain is going to love every formula and these plants were very unhappy and I couldn't seem to get it right. So now I have the plants I hate, the kind with no fan leaves that are just maturing on the stick when they shoulda been growing like gangbusters.

I'll go to the hydro store and see what I can find. Probably just switch to something simple like GH or Canna and see if they perform differently.

that is some fucked up coloration! but they do look nearly done

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that is some fucked up coloration! but they do look nearly done

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I know...it's fucking crazy. I should've taken a close up bud shot, they are quit frosted and the buds seem happy and the calyx's are just starting to swell and start stacking.

Not too much time left so there's not a whole lot left to do, just basically ride this one out, I'll give them nutes for another week, then I'll start flushing and we'll go as long as they need to go.