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nyquilkush

nyquilkush

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i have and couple of defects that im unsure of here are pics please comment and tell me what you guys think temp 75 humidity 60 ph.5.6

using hydroponics ...genreal hydroponics flora series
on week 2 flowering 5ml per gallon grow 5ml micro 3 ml bloom
temp 75 humidity 60 ph.5.6
cfl 5500k veg sprial (times 2)
flood and drain
Ev:joint::peace:ery three hours 27 gallon res


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purple stem..yellow leaf..lil red dot..droppy leaves..topped it but not getting taller

help experts !!
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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First you need 2700K if you are going to use CFL for flowering and you need a lot of it. Keep the 5500K and use to supplement. Still looks like light cal/mag deficiency. What is your water pH and do you adjust it? And have you checked your runoff pH? High pH can cause nutrient uptake problems all the way up to lockout. Cal/mag deficiency is a possible early sign of it.
 
Krondizzel

Krondizzel

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nyquilkush said:
i have and couple of defects that im unsure of here are pics please comment and tell me what you guys think temp 75 humidity 60 ph.5.6

using hydroponics ...genreal hydroponics flora series
on week 2 flowering 5ml per gallon grow 5ml micro 3 ml bloom
temp 75 humidity 60 ph.5.6
cfl 5500k veg sprial (times 2)
flood and drain
Ev:joint::peace:ery three hours 27 gallon res


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purple stem..yellow leaf..lil red dot..droppy leaves..topped it but not getting taller

help experts !!
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I see a few things wrong. I see deficiencies and ph problems. yellowing leaves, brown edges on green leaves, etc.

if it stays at 5.6, you'll have a magnesium deficiency View attachment 2485646 And that is what I am seeing. A few deficiencies View attachment 2485653

And that 3 part ratio is wrong. The ONLY nutrients I have ever used is the GH 3 part series. you should be at 3:2:1, not 3:3:1. (gro, micro, bloom).. when you transition to flower, run it 3:2:1 until the white hairs emerge, then run 1:2:3. The last 2 weeks, run 1:3:5. And be careful with that stuff, I usually run it half strength.

Here, here is a link to a thread I made that covers a lot of this:

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/592430-symptoms-problems-ph-ranges-nutrient.html
 
nyquilkush

nyquilkush

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hotrodharley said:
First you need 2700K if you are going to use CFL for flowering and you need a lot of it. Keep the 5500K and use to supplement. Still looks like light cal/mag deficiency. What is your water pH and do you adjust it? And have you checked your runoff pH? High pH can cause nutrient uptake problems all the way up to lockout. Cal/mag deficiency is a possible early sign of it.
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thanks man im in need of advice and willing to listen i have three 55oo k cfls and thre floresent bulbs with hoods...my water ph is 5.5 to 5.8 i keep it at 5.6 ..i do adjust my ph before and after i add my nutes..and then 8 hours after .i have an ph meter and ppm meter ..im running 15 gallons on this one plant in a 27 res..and ph runoff??? i use calmag in my nutes (the pic above)....so i need 2700 light because itts an defernt spectrum??
 
nyquilkush

nyquilkush

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ive kinda been using this


So OK – feeding schedule week by week. This is the GH weekly feeding program, slightly tweaked. I will only call out the volume of each part per gallon of water in the following manner: grow, micro, bloom, ppm range. Example – 5-2.5-2.5-400/800 would mean 5 ml grow 2.5 ml micro, 2.5 ml bloom and a ppm of 400-880. Remember it’s per gallon. You Euro’s can easily convert to liters. 4 liters is just a little bit over 1 gallon. It should also be noted that I use the hard water micro due to my tap water. I suggest using the hard water micro in place of the regular micro if your tap water is over 200 ppm total or you have over 70 ppm Ca. RO water users should use the regular micro.1 gal – 3.785 liters
Veg -
week 1 - 5ml Grow – 2.5ml Micro – 2.5ml Bloom-400/600 ppm
week 2 - 10ml Grow - 5ml Micro – 3ml Bloom – 600/800 ppm
week 3 - 12ml Grow – 6ml Micro - 3ml Bloom 800/1000 ppm (continue week 3 formula if additional veg time is required.)
Bloom
week 1 - 6ml Grow -6ml Micro – 10ml Bloom – 800/1200 ppm
week 2 - 3ml Grow -7ml Micro – 12ml Bloom – 1000/1400 ppm
week 3 - 3ml Grow -8ml Micro – 14ml Bloom – 1000/1400 ppm
week 4 - 3ml Grow -8ml Micro – 16ml Bloom – 1000/1400 ppm
week 5 - (discussed in detail below*)
week 6 - 0ml Grow - 7ml Micro – 20ml Bloom – 1000/1400 ppm
week 7 – 0ml Grow – 6ml Micro – 20ml Bloom (see bleow**)
 
Krondizzel

Krondizzel

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nyquilkush said:
ive kinda been using this


So OK – feeding schedule week by week. This is the GH weekly feeding program, slightly tweaked. I will only call out the volume of each part per gallon of water in the following manner: grow, micro, bloom, ppm range. Example – 5-2.5-2.5-400/800 would mean 5 ml grow 2.5 ml micro, 2.5 ml bloom and a ppm of 400-880. Remember it’s per gallon. You Euro’s can easily convert to liters. 4 liters is just a little bit over 1 gallon. It should also be noted that I use the hard water micro due to my tap water. I suggest using the hard water micro in place of the regular micro if your tap water is over 200 ppm total or you have over 70 ppm Ca. RO water users should use the regular micro.1 gal – 3.785 liters
Veg -
week 1 - 5ml Grow – 2.5ml Micro – 2.5ml Bloom-400/600 ppm
week 2 - 10ml Grow - 5ml Micro – 3ml Bloom – 600/800 ppm
week 3 - 12ml Grow – 6ml Micro - 3ml Bloom 800/1000 ppm (continue week 3 formula if additional veg time is required.)
Bloom
week 1 - 6ml Grow -6ml Micro – 10ml Bloom – 800/1200 ppm
week 2 - 3ml Grow -7ml Micro – 12ml Bloom – 1000/1400 ppm
week 3 - 3ml Grow -8ml Micro – 14ml Bloom – 1000/1400 ppm
week 4 - 3ml Grow -8ml Micro – 16ml Bloom – 1000/1400 ppm
week 5 - (discussed in detail below*)
week 6 - 0ml Grow - 7ml Micro – 20ml Bloom – 1000/1400 ppm
week 7 – 0ml Grow – 6ml Micro – 20ml Bloom (see bleow**)
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Keep it simple. Just keep the ratios right. Some strains, those numbers will not work. They will fry em. Others can handle it. Start low and if everything is going good, gradually increase your PPM with your bucket mix when topping off. Slow and easy.
 
nyquilkush

nyquilkush

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so half strenght per gallon ...so i should run 2.5 grow per gallon for week 1, and week two 5 ml, or always 2.5 per gallon until flowering ...ijs
and should i replace nutes now and start week two over
 
Krondizzel

Krondizzel

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nyquilkush said:
so half strenght per gallon ...so i should run 2.5 grow per gallon for week 1, and week two 5 ml, or always 2.5 per gallon until flowering ...ijs
and should i replace nutes now and start week two over
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I'm not going to give you a specific number. Condition of the plant, the strain, humidity, temp, etc can determine how much PPM you actually need.

If you are using that GH 3 part series, and it's not too difficult for you to switch the water out, yeah, I would at least get your (Gro, Micro, and bloom) ratios right. The numbers are right on the bottle. I just make sure to start low.

There was this one particular experience I'll never forget. On that setup, my typical 4 gallon mix (ran an active circulating system and had to top off with corrective mixes to balance the system out) would be 3ml gro, 2ml micro, and 1ml bloom .. My plants were under a ton of lighting and the RH was at 20%. Under those conditions, my plants drank TONS of water. What was happening was the plants were being forced to drink up the nutes along with the water. I was constantly getting nutrient burn until I was down to about 150. (I started at 400 and it was smoking em) So it was kind of like giving a marathon runner a glass of salt water after he just got done racing. Under those conditions, all they really wanted was water. So the PPM thing, I can't just tell you a number lol. That's sort of a recipe for disaster.

So, I treat every grow like that one. Starting off real low and gradually working my way up. Make sense now?
 
nyquilkush

nyquilkush

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thanks ganja im going lower ma nutes by starting ta slow ,and raise ma ph to 5.8 that should clear my mag cal deficiency


appericate yu stay high!!
 
Krondizzel

Krondizzel

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nyquilkush said:
thanks ganja im going lower ma nutes by staring slow and raise ma ph to 5.8 that should clear my mag cal deficiency


appericate yu stay high!!
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You can fluctuate it, because if you keep it at 5.8, you might not get any Mn. Which has the PH uptake range of 4.0-5.6

Let me know how it works out.
 
nyquilkush

nyquilkush

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i was trying to find out how much flora micro hard water to use am runing 15gallons of water how much micro hard water i use
 
Krondizzel

Krondizzel

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nyquilkush said:
how much flora mirco hard water to mix in 15 gallons of water
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Use micro hard water as you would use the normal stuff. Same ratios apply. 3/2/1 veg, 3/2/3 transition, 1/2/3 bloom

15 gallons: veg, I'd run about 3tsp gro, 2tsp micro (hard or regular), and 1 tsp bloom per 4 gallons. I always top off with a 5 gallon bucket filled to the 4 gallon mark. That's purely a ratio example, not a ppm example.

By the way, sorry for the slower reply, I was busy for the last couple days. Keep bumpin' it though, I'm subscribed and I'll read this thread eventually :D
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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I think what he was suggesting is to use the recommended feedings from GH, but that you may want to cut them in half depending on how the plants are reacting. Thats how I run my nutes. I take their recommended formula, and start with a half does, see how they do. If they like it and do well, no issues I'll bump it up the next res change. This usualy works well, my first res change this grow I didn't cut it back as much and was almost to high for my girls. I saw just the slightest burn on the tips after about 18 hours, so I pulled 5 gallons out of the res and topped it off with ph'd water to lower the ppm.

I run the GH 3 part as well, the last several grows I've been only using bloom and micro as per the lucas formula. This grow I thought I'd try the whole 3 part and see if I noticed any difference. So far so good, I switched my lights on 1/12, and sunday will mark the end of week one for my girls. I also decided to run floralicious plus this run since I got a free sample. I suppose having 2 new variables I won't know what changed what but we'll see if I notice any changes at all.
 
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