Ron Paul Has A Legit Shot.

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UncleBuck

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Dan Kone said:
I believe him partially. I don't think he read every single article. But to claim he had no idea what was being written in his own publication is beyond what is believable. Maybe he didn't write the super racist stuff, but he was surely knew about it and was at the least indifferent to it. And the stuff that was written from the 1st person perspective of a congressman that voted HAD to be written by him.

However I don't think this is enough to disqualify him from winning the republican primary. Do republican voters really care if their candidate is a racist? A candidate being racist is probably a bonus to many republican voters.

Newt has had so many scandals I don't even know where to begin. He's an all around terrible person. Most republican voters think Romney belongs to a cult.

So we aren't talking about a bunch of flawless candidates. One scandal won't necessarily disqualify them.
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agreed on all counts.

i think he knew the racist stuff was being written, but just as sex sells, so does controversy and we know he made money off it.

ron the paul profited from incendiary racism.

oh, and one more thing to all the ron paul worshippers who are unable to see this issue clearly...let me just say this: unelectable.
 
UncleBuck

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deprave said:
How do unelectable people get elected 13 times?
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dennis kucinich, a fellow rep, has been elected many times....AS A REP.

how well do you think dennis kucinich would do in a general election? :dunce:

keep confusing the point, it might work one day.

if i weren't sitting in a travelodge in bakersfield, i would merge all the ron paul threads this very moment. it is just spam at this point.

face it, his rise in the polls is solely due to the GOP field being so lacking. no one actually likes the guy.
 
deprave

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UncleBuck said:
dennis kucinich, a fellow rep, has been elected many times....AS A REP.

how well do you think dennis kucinich would do in a general election? :dunce:

keep confusing the point, it might work one day.

if i weren't sitting in a travelodge in bakersfield, i would merge all the ron paul threads this very moment. it is just spam at this point.

face it, his rise in the polls is solely due to the GOP field being so lacking. no one actually likes the guy.
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Too bad the other candidates didn't even get on the ballots in multiple states today, it is down to Romney Vs Paul
 
deprave

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You will be eating your words lol

Paul is beating Romney in quite a few states..a lot of perry/bachman/santorum people are going to go to paul now
 
Dan Kone

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deprave said:
It just doesn't make sense he would write nor condone such a thing. Please explainn why would he write that he voted against mlk day when in fact he voted for it, countless times he has said and written mlk is one of his heroes. The statements go against everything and every style he has written in; everything he's ever voted for and his entire philosophy
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Ok. I've looked it up. No, you're wrong. He did not vote for MLK's birthday. He voted yea on an earlier legislation regarding when MLK's birthday should be celebrated. But that wasn't a vote in favor of making MLK's birthday a national holiday. He voted yes to make the holiday on Jan 15th, rather than the third Monday of January. A no vote there would not be voting against the holiday, it would be voting against having that holiday on jan 15th. That was his 1979 yea vote on the MLK holiday.

The actual voting to make MLK's birthday a holiday took place in 1983, not 1979. In the 1983 vote to make MLK's birthday a national holiday, he voted no.

So no, Ron Paul did not vote to make MLK's birthday a holiday. He voted to make that holiday on jan 15th, rather than the third monday of jan.

Here is the proof. Read the titles carefully. At first appearance, it looks like he voted for MLK's birthday in 1979, but on closer inspection, that is not what happened.

The 1979 vote http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-624

The 1983 vote which made MLK's birthday a national holiday http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1983-289

So there you go. Ron Paul voted against MLK's birthday. Then shortly after that his newsletter has an article written in the first person perspective of a congressman who voted against MLK's birthday, ripping into MLK. Now he claims to know nothing about the articles and claims MLK is a hero? There is a lie in there somewhere. That doesn't really help Paul's credibility.
 
deprave

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Oh gee goly he voted for a different day....lol you should of just corrected my spelling also, he never RIPPED into MLK. You have obviously never read one of his books, not one, MLK is one of his heroes and he has said and written that repetidly, he could of choose anyone else but he chooses MLK as his hero on many occasions.
 
Dan Kone

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deprave said:
Oh gee goly he voted for a different day....
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You just missed the point entirely.

I wasn't criticizing him for voting for a different day.

The point was people (you) are pointing to that 1979 vote and claiming Ron Paul voted for MLK's birthday. But that is not true. Ron Paul voted against MLK's birthday. The vote to make MLK's birthday a holiday took place in 1983, and Paul voted no.

lol you should of just corrected my spelling also,
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WTF dude? I'm not correcting a typo here. You outright lied and I proved you wrong. Big fucking difference between lying and making a typo.

he never RIPPED into MLK. You have obviously never read one of his books, not one, MLK is one of his heroes and he said said and written that repetidly, he could of choose anyone else but he chooses MLK as his hero on many occasions.
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I've shown you proof and you still refuse to accept it.

And you wonder why people think Ron Paul supporters act like cult members.... Put down the koolaide dude.
 
deprave

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I never consider anything he has said as RIPPING into MLK, you seem to think some speech is that but I'd have to disagree. Put down the koolaid cause your opinion isn't a fact.
 
Dan Kone

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deprave said:
I never consider anything he has said as RIPPING into MLK, you seem to think some speech is that but I'd have to disagree. Put down the koolaid cause your opinion isn't a fact.
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You said Paul voted in favor of MLK's birthday as a national holiday. He did not. That is not my opinion. That is a fact and I proved it. Put down the koolaid.
 
deprave

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Dan Kone said:
You said Paul voted in favor of MLK's birthday as a national holiday. He did not. That is not my opinion. That is a fact and I proved it. Put down the koolaid.
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You certainly did sure lol, but you didn't prove that he RIPPED INTO MLK, that is your opinion. Put down the Vegetable Oil.
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  • I never consider anything he has said as RIPPING into MLK, you seem to think some speech is that but I'd have to disagree. Put down the koolaid cause your opinion isn't a fact.​
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Dan Kone

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deprave said:
It just doesn't make sense he would write nor condone such a thing. Please explainn why would he write that he voted against mlk day when in fact he voted for it
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Oh hi there. What's this? Oh yeah. It's a false statement.

It's ok to be wrong. It only becomes not ok when you ignore the evidence, fail to admit your mistake, and keep pretending you're right.
 
Dan Kone

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deprave said:
I am correct partially, he has voted for mlk, he has written and said that MLK is his hero.
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No, he has not voted for MLK. He voted against it and I proved it. Lying won't help you here.

I'm trying the best I can to be fair here, and what am I met with? Lies and smear tactics. Real nice. That makes Ron Paul look real good when his sycophants act this way.
 
deprave

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deprave

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I agreed your right you big douscher, now calm down and read what your actually posting you are clearly very stoned or on a phone or distracted or something lol
 
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