Ron Paul the Loser Pro-Marijuana guy

budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
HereToday said:
Thats still 70 a quarter ounce
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Yes it is. And they got so much hell from the other collectives around that you would've thought they were PAYING people to get bud. Mark wanted to go lower (he was talking $7/g indoor/$3/g outdoor) but the other owners were concerned about reputation amongst other collectives i think. Also got to figure that SOME of that $70 quarter was absorbed through donation to needy patients.

i'm not saying they were the perfect model of a collective but i can guarantee they were the closest to it out of any collective i have visited.
 
C

Coals

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Oh and I saw this today

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They used to label people who could predict the future as "witches"
 
DelSlow

DelSlow

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HereToday said:
Medical marijauana as the law is a fucking lewd joke

If you made it legal to possess. And illegal to sell everyone wins
patients smokers and society

The father and son were making 30-50k a day? How much did these modern day Robin Hoods give back to the community?
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Just to be clear, you're duke right? Back from the dead?

Sorry if I'm the last one to notice lol
 
patlpp

patlpp

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Did you see the picture at the very very end? Shows Ron in the Oval Office in the big boy chair; subliminal or what?
 
Ernst

Ernst

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We should get local-motion going in California.

Oh I know what the Prop 19 was and I also know the players on a personal level.

Joe is at it again with a non-financed initiative as if his job is to provide an option and little else.

The prop 19 folks are now in CYA mode with the crack down and Regulate like wine is a good idea but the wine industry isn't jumping in to finance so what good is that?

Ron Paul is simply too whack for us since he wants to get rid of Social Security and such.

Perhaps we need to get real and focus on 2016.

Re-elect Obama and let us plan for 2016.

Let's get to legalizing the right way.. For the people first and commerce second!

I mean we can fail and fail until finally it's trivial that something will pass in the years ahead. Far, far ahead as I see it.

I know folks want a hero but Ron Paul is too whack for most and supporting a guy who wants to get rid of social security and the EPA because he also supports legalization is foolish.
I mean if he couldn't get his fellow law makers to support legislation when he was a law maker how can he generate law when he is in the executive branch?

Makes no sense at all to believe electing Ron Paul is equal to legalizing cannabis.
Remember whether or not he supports legalizing his first duty is to uphold the laws as they are.
We would be waiting every day for him to change the laws he has, by law, to defend. It's a conundrum!

So I point out our "Stupid Stoner" moment with the politicians and the political ideologies when it comes to legalizing.

Well I have said all that is worth saying on the subject.
 
budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
Ernst said:
We should get local-motion going in California.

Oh I know what the Prop 19 was and I also know the players on a personal level.

Joe is at it again with a non-financed initiative as if his job is to provide an option and little else.

The prop 19 folks are now in CYA mode with the crack down and Regulate like wine is a good idea but the wine industry isn't jumping in to finance so what good is that?

Ron Paul is simply too whack for us since he wants to get rid of Social Security and such.

Perhaps we need to get real and focus on 2016.

Re-elect Obama and let us plan for 2016.

Let's get to legalizing the right way.. For the people first and commerce second!

I mean we can fail and fail until finally it's trivial that something will pass in the years ahead. Far, far ahead as I see it.

I know folks want a hero but Ron Paul is too whack for most and supporting a guy who wants to get rid of social security and the EPA because he also supports legalization is foolish.
I mean if he couldn't get his fellow law makers to support legislation when he was a law maker how can he generate law when he is in the executive branch?

Makes no sense at all to believe electing Ron Paul is equal to legalizing cannabis.
Remember whether or not he supports legalizing his first duty is to uphold the laws as they are.
We would be waiting every day for him to change the laws he has, by law, to defend. It's a conundrum!

So I point out our "Stupid Stoner" moment with the politicians and the political ideologies when it comes to legalizing.

Well I have said all that is worth saying on the subject.
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Why should someone not have the option of planning for their OWN future as Paul advocates?
 
Rascality Afoot

Rascality Afoot

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You know how in a zombie movies, the main character wakes up or snaps out of some coma or something and finds a world inhabited by slavering, ravenous, mindless, murderous, flesh eating human shells and carcasses? That's how it feels to wake up as Ron Paul in Washington every day.
And also like a zombie movie, when I watch him speaking to all those zombies I sit on the edge of my seat screaming at my tv, "No you idiot! They're not people anymore! Get them in the head before they eat our brains!
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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C

Coals

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Rascality Afoot said:
You know how in a zombie movies, the main character wakes up or snaps out of some coma or something and finds a world inhabited by slavering, ravenous, mindless, murderous, flesh eating human shells and carcasses? That's how it feels to wake up as Ron Paul in Washington every day.
And also like a zombie movie, when I watch him speaking to all those zombies I sit on the edge of my seat screaming at my tv, "No you idiot! They're not people anymore! Get them in the head before they eat our brains!
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The insolvent zombie bankers are the ones that are going to be eating your brains....
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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budlover13 said:
A shit-ton! And again, they weren't NETTING $30-50k a day. They were accepting donations in that amount and then deducting all their costs and what was left went to charity (or was attempted, several declined to accept the donations).
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An accountant can do voodoo with medical marijuana. They can take businesses that make millions per year and make them look like they're breaking even. You can rent a building out, then re-rent it to your collective for 10 times the amount you're paying. If you're growing your own bud, you can charge your collective rent on the grow space, equipment, etc. And that's tax deductible too (everything except expenses due to retail sales). You can form a second for profit management company, and charge your collective what ever you want for it's services. Any decent specialized accountant can show you how to extract an unlimited amount of money from a collective and make it appear like you're not making a profit. Pretty much every collective does this as a legal necessity. I do this. For every 100k I take in I pay taxes on only about $4k of it. Everything else is deductible and my company makes no profit.

I don't blame collectives doing it, the system is set up so you basically have to run your accounting like this. You have to do this or else you get double taxed and are breaking the law. But the idea that people aren't making profits on a collective that brings in 30-50k a day is laughable. It's a complete joke to everyone who's familiar with the business end of medical marijuana. Sure, they say the collective isn't making a profit, and that's technically true. It's illegal for a collective to make a profit. But the owners of these collectives are making obscene amounts of money.

I'm not hating. There is nothing wrong with making a profit as long as you're still providing a good service. But it is what it is. These collectives doing 50k a day worth of business aren't doing it because they are saints, they're doing it to stack cash.
 
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