Room build: my first ever grow build (with pictures)

Honestly I don't have recommendations specifically I don't typically use a bunch of different additives and I get asked all the time how I get my buds so frosty. I tend to subscribe to the less is more theory of growing. I give my plants what they want, and need but have never seen the need to load them down with tons of other things. When I was running fox farms, I did use their solubles, with great results. I've ran several different nutes over the years, and several combinations of those nutes to see what results I got, and so far in my experience if you grow healthy plants with good other conditions, you will have frosty ass buds and good yields. That one time I tried the gravity I can honestly say I don't think it did much for the buds that wasn't already happening. I've read tons of accounts of people that used all types of boosters and then switched to the lucas formula(less is more) and had the same if not better results. A friend of mine swears by snowstorm, and doesn't care about the carcinogen thing, but when we compare examples of the same bud (clones from the same mom) the buds look and smoke almost identically.

Do a search on here for "snake oils" there are tons of threads talking about peoples experiences with all the different boosters.

Usernamewastaken said:

wow, thanks for the info TC! I now have to find alternatives to humboldt county's crystal burst and also gravity. If you have any recommendations that would be Awesome...

thanks

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I still use it and ive read that over several a time.

I think of that as i do flushing and other things like that. I have to test them out for myself.

PGRs are in everything now a days and really how bad can they be compared to nicotine and all the carcinogens within a single cigarette .

Theyre in your food everywhere so theres no escaping them.

So if youre growing for medical dispensaries you can go without it, but if you smoke cigarettes youre in just as much danger of cancer, if not more.

I dont even smoke cigs and i use it. So in the end if you like it and know it works fuck it and use it.

If not its youre own choice.

Fuck cigerettes they are bad for your health. Once I get my volcano thats all I'll be using then on out!

Thundercat said:

Fuck cigerettes they are bad for your health. Once I get my volcano thats all I'll be using then on out!

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For real Cigs are the devil. I cant believe youre allowed to legally buy and inhale cancer with a tobacco base... while KUH is still illegal

I smoke blunts though but there is less of the "additives" they put in the actual tobacco and cigarette tobacco.

Also people need to understand that just because something is "cancerous" doesnt mean its going to give you cancer.

It mean that they gave high doses of pure "chemical X" to lab rats genetically modified to be more susceptible to cancer.

So as long as youre not bathing in SNOWSTORM ULTRA, or other " cancerous " products youll be good.

One more thing is that just because you put something in the soil doesnt mean it comes out in the bud.

You put worm castings or bat guano in the soil and the microorganisms and the plant itself break down and reassemble them the way they know how.

Id like to see the chemical analysis of buds grown with these products to get the real truth behind them.

This will be the next nutes I use once I find a place to ship them to. I used them a few years ago when I got 2 quarts as a sample, and it worked awesome. The flavor and smell where the best I've ever grown, and the plants were super happy all the way till harvest. Its also almost half the price of many of the nutes which are marketed to cannabis growers. The Envy nutes are designed to give the plants what they actually need through their whole life cycle. I did add some of the fox farms solubles as a boost in flower since I had them laying around, but I don't think they needed it they were putting on resin and building buds just fine.

They sound nice are they synthetic or organic? and where do you get them?

Ive used the Blue Planet Nutrient line of organics with the addition of CAL/Mag and snowstorm ultra.

Blue Planet Nutrients is one of the cheapest ive found at only $80 shipped for 3 GALLONS and 3 QUARTS. 1 gal each of grow,micro,bloom base nutes and 1 qt of additives which are humic/fulvic, soil activator, and k-bud

They keep my plants lookin perfect.

Lol I forgot the link. This is to the actual company but there are several hydro companies that carry the Envy producthttp://www.envybrand.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=82 They are chemical nutes but from what I can tell they aren't the typical salt based nutrients. They are supposed to be designed to be easily absorbed but the plants and not leave damaging residues. That link will give you a pretty good idea about them. Its a simple 2 part nute, if I remember correctly you use equal parts of each for the whole grow. Heres one of the companies that sells them http://www.texashydroponics.com/shop/product.php?productid=2204 For 43.99 you get one gallon of each part and that will mix up a total of 512 gallons roughly 8 cents a gallon.

I'm diggin being the fly on the wall picking things up from you guys....

i just started a grow journal, not for any other reasons than to learn and maybe help someone else in the future.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/626415-6-strains-12-plants-new.html#post8708143

Usernamewastaken said:

I'm diggin being the fly on the wall picking things up from you guys....

i just started a grow journal, not for any other reasons than to learn and maybe help someone else in the future.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/626415-6-strains-12-plants-new.html#post8708143

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I'm just kinda posted up on the wall as well atm lol. I'm looking at starting my 3rd grow (2nd REAL grow, as my original 2nd grow was prematurely terminated,) and even though mine won't be nearly on the scale as the one being documented, any grow is a great source of knowledge. Keep up the good work guys!

Eastman86 said:

I'm just kinda posted up on the wall as well atm lol. I'm looking at starting my 3rd grow (2nd REAL grow, as my original 2nd grow was prematurely terminated,) and even though mine won't be nearly on the scale as the one being documented, any grow is a great source of knowledge. Keep up the good work guys!

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Thanks man... Has been loads of fun so far!

A room of this size can use some serious air flow.
My area is about the same size so what I did was find a whole house FAU(just call one of the local A/C companies in your area)they do change outs all the time and these old units are damn near free to buy one from them.
Mine blows 1600cfm
just run some K.D. ducting around each grow tent and light set up/filter the air intake and exhaust.

Well, as predicted by some, I am expanding... Below are my plans

how many feet of duct will that 424 cfm be drawing air through? it might have a tough time with all those tight angled turns and length of the flow

cant wait to see this monster

This picture makes it look like your veg room is twice the size of your flower room? Usually its the other way around. Flower room usually gets 2x the wattage and 2x the space to accommodate the size of the flowering plants. You've obviously put alot of thought into this room so I'm not criticizing, just trying to understand.

Looks good!

only thing that i would change are the lights in the bigger section run them with the ducting up and down like the one in the smaller one instead of from left to right so you can optimize your fan and eliminate all those turns

other than that everythings gonna be amazing once you get it rollin

Myles117 said:

how many feet of duct will that 424 cfm be drawing air through? it might have a tough time with all those tight angled turns and length of the flow

cant wait to see this monster

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great question... I will have to measure to find out how long the run is. Keep in mind the long run is for my air cooled hoods (closed system). When I put my hand in front of the exhaust for that run it seems to be blowing just as hard as my short run

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This picture makes it look like your veg room is twice the size of your flower room? Usually its the other way around. Flower room usually gets 2x the wattage and 2x the space to accommodate the size of the flowering plants. You've obviously put alot of thought into this room so I'm not criticizing, just trying to understand.

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Hey TC, I plan only pulling 2 (3 max) plants out of the veg room into flower at a time...going for a perpetual grow.

budbro18 said:

Looks good!

only thing that i would change are the lights in the bigger section run them with the ducting up and down like the one in the smaller one instead of from left to right so you can optimize your fan and eliminate all those turns

other than that everythings gonna be amazing once you get it rollin

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Budbro, I was actually thinking about that today but was thinking since it is exhausting air hard and heavy if I really needed too?

Yes you should. Itll only help in the long run.

and when you put that much air through 6 inch ducting it flexes whatever direction it wants so it will move your light as well so corners are your enemy unless you have rigid ducting.

But efficiency is key. if youre restricting air flow it could not only cool your lights less but also put more wear on your fan shortening its life.

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great question... I will have to measure to find out how long the run is. Keep in mind the long run is for my air cooled hoods (closed system). When I put my hand in front of the exhaust for that run it seems to be blowing just as hard as my short run

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true, not havin a filter on there sure reduces drag. is the air for the hood cooling just being drawn from the next room over or is it coming in from outside? Im still not sure how i am going to cool my hoods and would love to ehar just how you are doing it