I had a plant in the vegetative stage outside planted in soil which was doing very poorly. I removed the plant completely from the soil, washed the roots clean, cut him down to a stem, (I know I should have left some leaves but they were all covered in fungus and bugs and long beyond salvagable) then shaved some of the stem just above the roots and applied root hormone after which I replanted it in rock wool cubes soaked in water at a ph of approximately 6.5. it's currently inside under an 80 watt flourescent. Is it possible to revive it? If so what might I do to induce foliage growth?
roots, stump of a stem no leaves or branches
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1sttimeguy
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what can you do to incuce foilage growth?
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I'm contemplating reducing the ph to around 5.8-6 and adding a light strength n-p-k nutrient solution. thoughts anyone?
superstoner1
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without leaves its dead.
How can you be so sure? I've seen trees leveled to stumps which bring foliage right out of the stump and regenerate. Can you possibly expand as to why you believe that it cannot produce new growth?
secro
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your comparing an annual plant to a tree .... thats the first problem .... coppicing and/or pollarding is what you are talking about, cutting trees right back then regrowing juvenile foliage - however this doesnt work for all tree species, let alone an annual plant, yes you can indefinitely keep mj in a veg state with controlled light cycles and re-veg but not coppicing ... sorry
Nice Ol Bud
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I wanna see how this looks.
HeartlandHank
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Yeah, I don't think cannabis does that. I know what you are saying though... like poling a tree... crape myrtle's pole really well. it's really popular in Europe. IMO, it makes for the best looking C Myrtle.
Cannabis though, I don't think so.
Cannabis though, I don't think so.
So you're saying there's absolutely no solution? It's very important to me that I try something because my only other alternative at the moment is to try cloning from a plant in its first weeks of flowering, which from what I understand poses a number of potential headaches.
secro
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you will definitely have more of a chance of getting cuttings going - at least there is some chance if it is not too far into flowering which it sounds like only just started .. ?
I saw it a week and a half ago and it wasn't flowering, but my friend said it started since then so yes very early stages. May actually just be pre-flowers now that I think of it. Sounds like a better choice, huh?
HeartlandHank
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It's really the only choice.
I agree. I've had revegged plants. It was more susceptible to powdery mildew than previously, yielded a little less, and had leaf deformities.
Just cut out the flowers as much as possible. Leave the stem growth, just get out the flowers.
Thanks for the advice. I'll leave the post open to see if any one has any bright ideas but in the meantime I'll take some cuttings and see what I can make of them. I'm not quite ready to throw in the towel on my little buddy just yet.
secro
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you should have NO problems getting a cutting started this early - people have done it much later into flowering, ideally you should be flushing out your soil for a couple of days to get rid of excess nitrogen as this can retard rooting - if your just finished veg your plants likely full of N ... most important is a healthy mother and clean equipment, revert back to veg light schedule until your roots have stablished and then you can continue ...
I'm not sure that flushing is an option. My friends plant was given miracle grow or something similar which may possibly contain time-released nutrients. He only supplies water to the medium, so surely it's thoroughly flushed already and is recieving it's nutrients from the additive.
Are you sure it's impossible to regenerate foliage? After all a seed becomes nothing more than a small root before it brings forth any greenery. The seed itself containg just enough nutrients to do so before any light can be absorbed by leaves so it may stand to reason that a stalk with no leaves, which has healthy roots once given the proper nutrients could produce foliage and be rejuvenated. thoughts?
Are you sure it's impossible to regenerate foliage? After all a seed becomes nothing more than a small root before it brings forth any greenery. The seed itself containg just enough nutrients to do so before any light can be absorbed by leaves so it may stand to reason that a stalk with no leaves, which has healthy roots once given the proper nutrients could produce foliage and be rejuvenated. thoughts?
it looks like a stalk approx. 2 1/2 inches tall and 1/2 inch in diameter sticking out of a rock wool cube which is inside a hydro pot which is sitting an inch or so into the resevoir.
HeartlandHank
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Actually, there is a set of leaves before there is a root, within the seed
. A seed holds the cotyledon (the little first set of leaves). The cotyledon absorbs food from the endosperm. Enough food to get itself free of the seed and above the soil line. Shortly thereafter, the plant is hungry. With the cotyledon leaves now above the ground, the plant can absorb light to make energy. Through the whole process,even before the sprout, leaves are involved. With no leaves, no growth.
Wait a few days and the root system will not look healthy.
Reveg is your best bet if you are really wanting to keep the genetics.
superstoner1
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you may have seen trees do but not what you are growing. it needs foliage to survive.