Rubbermaid CFL Tub Tag Along - Making My Return (With Pictures)

Damn those are small pics lol. But I can see the turn out was pretty decent for the setup. Can't complain about those, they look good. Were there only 2 in there? or is that just 2 pics of 1 plant? What was the yield? I'm guessing it gave you maybe a half oz? if it was just 1
I wish I could open mine up right now and see something like that, except on a screen or something cuz i dont have the height for that that size


edit - n/m i see now looks like 1 plant a pic before trimming and after

The yield was 2 oz the main cola was 24 grams. The plant was Mango from BCSeed King. Out of 15 seeds she was the only one to become a lady. I bet with some topping and some crazy LST'ing you could come up with a good yield.

Its funny with all of this talk I am thinking about making another one to start the seeds in, and get them to the 12/12 stage of life then put them in the coke machine.

And one more time props on how clean yours looks and just great job on the build.

^ Thanks, It could be a bit cleaner and could have a few better things as well as some things gone from it. If I wasn't on a "try not to spend a dime" budget, I would have changed some things again, as I'm not really totally happy with it.

Anyways, took a look through the old CC thread and got some of the pics of this Thai mix done under t8 floros I believe. Not by me.

Also, Turns out the baby daddy might actually be Afghani and not the three I listed in the first post.
You will see when I update tomorrow, as two of them are looking indica leaning and the third looks like a sativa/indica mix but I think shows slightly sativa compared to the other two.

I put them in what might be their final containers (ziploc) today (did 2, ran out of peat. waitin' for some pellets to dry out overnight I expanded). Filled up to the first node, a good few inches.
I think I may veg until I have LST'd around the container or 75-80%, then flower. Keeping it as low as possible before flower and during the stretch.
Or I will fim very soon and once its recovered and growing I will switch.

Update to come tomorrow...

Some pics for now...

Lookin really nice man, keep it up!

Well, the little ones are 2 weeks old now.
They are looking good and doing well.

They each have 2 or 3 true nodes at least and are staring to grow the side shoots.

From left to right (in the above view pic), you can see how the first looks a little more sativa while the last looks more indica.

The first two don't really smell other then the normal "plant" green smell. However, the last one that looks the most indica is already starting to smell pretty distinct if you put your nose to it.

This means I gotta figure out my filter ASAP, as most likely within the next few days to week it will start stinking up the room.
I still haven't decided how I'm goin to do the filter as I need a smaller sized one with only a thin (half inch or inch) layer of carbon....so that the 80mm pc fan is able to pull air thru effectively

any suggestions would be appreciated

I removed the reflector as the new containers spread the little ones out too far for just one bulb to be effective. I add a second bulb to keep the light intensity up to compensate for the removal of the reflector


here are some pics...

thats a very nice rubbermaid grow, The one my friend made, even with all the work and $ still didnt look as good as yours. or apparently perform from the looks of your plants. good luck

^ Thanks.

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As my original plan for the filter was to fill the elbow and use that, I soon realized once I got the small granule carbon and knowing the pc fans that it would not work. Just way too thick of carbon for the fan to pull air thru.
My next idea was to get a pvc adapter (joins 2 parts together) and screen off each end and fill it with carbon and insert it into the elbow end fitting.....I still may do that.

With about 5 min of thinking and looking at a drawer full of random parts, I came up with this idea.
Using a empty 120mm fan housing, screened off on both sides (would leave one corner not glued/secured so I could empty and refill as needed) and then attached to a 120mm to 80mm reducer....which I would then place onto the pvc fitting the exhaust fan is inserted into.
This would eliminate the need for the elbow on the exhaust pvc

Thoughts/ideas?

Love that idea, I'll have to see how that works out!
Would it work all the same in a PC case if I had two identical fan housings, one with and one without the fan, stuck the fan on the outtake hole and the carbon filled one onto that?
Thanks again for the idea hah!

RRain said:

Love that idea, I'll have to see how that works out!
Would it work all the same in a PC case if I had two identical fan housings, one with and one without the fan, stuck the fan on the outtake hole and the carbon filled one onto that?
Thanks again for the idea hah!

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I don't see why not, it should work fine.

The only reason i'm using the 120mm housing and 120 to 80 reducer is cuz I only had a broken 120mm and the exaust is 80mm. I happened to have the reducer that I got for my old pc.
If i had a broken 80mm or had one I could gut out, i would have went with the 80mm. Then i could have attache the housing to the 80mm side of the reducer and placed the 120 side over the pvc fitting end, it would actually make a better fit that way.

I also just figured that with 80mm fan on the exhaust, that if I use the 120mm housing, the fan would have a easier time pulling air in through the larger space.
We'll see how it goes, it may be better using a 80mm housing I dunno. I'll have to see what pulls better. I just need to get a spare 80mm i can destroy.

I don't like the carbon i got. The size is way too small. its like tiny gravel.
But thats all I could find in my area i was surprised.

Anyone know where to get larger grain size or pellet form carbon in big box or major chain stores in Canada?
I don't know how I was not able to find anything decent where I am located, mind boggling for me really.
ALl I could find was large bulk for industrial application and I don't need a gigantic box right now just a medium to large container

2supra4u said:

I don't see why not, it should work fine.

The only reason i'm using the 120mm housing and 120 to 80 reducer is cuz I only had a broken 120mm and the exaust is 80mm. I happened to have the reducer that I got for my old pc.
If i had a broken 80mm or had one I could gut out, i would have went with the 80mm. Then i could have attache the housing to the 80mm side of the reducer and placed the 120 side over the pvc fitting end, it would actually make a better fit that way.

I also just figured that with 80mm fan on the exhaust, that if I use the 120mm housing, the fan would have a easier time pulling air in through the larger space.
We'll see how it goes, it may be better using a 80mm housing I dunno. I'll have to see what pulls better. I just need to get a spare 80mm i can destroy.

I don't like the carbon i got. The size is way too small. its like tiny gravel.
But thats all I could find in my area i was surprised.

Anyone know where to get larger grain size or pellet form carbon in big box or major chain stores in Canada?
I don't know how I was not able to find anything decent where I am located, mind boggling for me really.
ALl I could find was large bulk for industrial application and I don't need a gigantic box right now just a medium to large container

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I bought some from Walmart and its pretty cheap it was like $4 for 4oz

chillivape said:

I bought some from Walmart and its pretty cheap it was like $4 for 4oz

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are you in the states tho??

Walmart in Canada dosent carry those plastic jugs of carbon, I went to see already (unless the walmart i went to is a hack one that doesent stock their shelves...they dont have it on the cdn website either, but it is for US)

Well, I put the filter on today to test out.

I can feel air being sucked into it, but its not much. The fan feels like its blowing alot but I think thats just mostly the turbulence the fan blades make.
I cant feel any air moving in the intake anymore with the lid on, so I know its drastically lowered the air movement.

The temps have jumped from 24-25c to 32-33c with the lid on for an hour. Not very good. I want to be under 30c always.

So, i ether need a more powerful fan....or add a 120mm on the filter to help push air thru.
or I need to figure out how to reduce the thickness of the carbon while still using the 120mm housing in hopes that increases airflow.
like i said this carbon is crap for the fan im using, its just way too small in size. Pellets would probably work much better.

I also decided that I would fim the plants to keep them short and get some more bud sites.
I fim'd them after I put the filter in.

this filter thing is putting the operation in jeopardy. If I can't get this figured out and also get temps under control i'm not sure if I will be able to continue the whole way.

If anyone has any ideas, i'm all ears.

all looks very nice and tidy m8 you making good use of the space you are working with

peace

im doing almost the same exact thing but with 2x125w CFL's red and blue spectrum, an just 1 plant. i am curious to see what you do when it comes to scroging, or lst, i plan on using the Scrog method myself.. but i dont know how high i should set my scrog unit above my plant, since it is in a 19 inch high 31 gal Rubbermaid.

Can you run the carbon filter on the outside?

What I was thinking is a 4" inline fan on the outside just use that dryer venting from box to fan and in the middle put the carbon in panty hose and place in the venting.

KcCrion said:

Can you run the carbon filter on the outside?

What I was thinking is a 4" inline fan on the outside just use that dryer venting from box to fan and in the middle put the carbon in panty hose and place in the venting.

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I'm trying to keep it at stealth as possible so I cant really do that. It would also make it a hassle to take it out of the cupboard easily. If I didnt have limitations, id just get a bigger fan to solve my issues as well as make a better (and proper) diy filter
The most I would do is attach the filter I make on the outside if it comes to that...

What I think I'm gonna try is... instead of screening both sides of the 120mm housing, I will screen one side and on the other I will cut the screen to the diameter of the circle in the housing.
This will allow me to fill the housing with the thickness of carbon I want. So, I'm gonna try with half of what I first used, then I will try half of that.

If this doesn't work, then I will flip the pvc fitting around (as well as flip the fan), and insert it from the inside....then I will put the filter on the outside.
Doing this, I will see if pushing the air through the filter will work any better then sucking through it.

I think if I can get the thickness of carbon down enough it will work ok.... hopefully well enough that it can keep me under 30c


Fuck, I can't tell you how much I wish I could just bust out my hydrohut and 400hps right now....

Did you find any more carbon? From what I have been reading around is that aquarium shops are going to have the size you need. And they say the finer the better.
New Ideas:
1. With the smell you can get "ona Gel" to cover the smell 2. get a small personal fan about 3" and put it on the inside but point it to the filter you are making, it would just add 50 cm or so. 3. LINK ---> https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/80712-pc-fan-respirator-filter-works.html I think its kinda like what you are talking about but a little diff.

KcCrion said:

Did you find any more carbon? From what I have been reading around is that aquarium shops are going to have the size you need. And they say the finer the better.
New Ideas:
1. With the smell you can get "ona Gel" to cover the smell 2. get a small personal fan about 3" and put it on the inside but point it to the filter you are making, it would just add 50 cm or so. 3. LINK ---> https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/80712-pc-fan-respirator-filter-works.html I think its kinda like what you are talking about but a little diff.

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Nah I didn't.

I got what I had from the local pet store, its all they had. Two 200g boxes.
Yea, you want fine over the large macaroni sized pellets. Its just liek for vaporizing, you want it fine (ground up) so that there is more surface area for contact.
However, you dont wan't it too fine....as just like for vaporizing....if its too fine.....when you pull air through, it packs too tightly and restricts airflow.
So, you want it fine (granules), but not too fine.

When using PC fans like I am.....which are not very good when faced with an obstruction.... ie they have low static pressure.....using too fine a grain size will render thses fans useless
As what happend when I first put my filter on........the bed thinkness of the carbon was just too thick (inch maybe guessing)....and barely any air was coming through.

I did what I said a post or two ago....and cut one screen to match the diameter inside the 120mm housing.
Reinforced the outside of the screen with cut pieces of metal clothes hangers ....because the screen wasnt rigid enough and was bulging out when I would put carbon in (when I'd stand it up carbon would fall out of place in the screen because of the space created from the bulging)
refilled with a thin layer of carbon and put the cut screen on top and got it secured with morepieces of hanger and some tape. and put it back on today.

It seems to be working much better. The temps didnt go back to 25-26 but they are hovering around 29-31c with the lid on for an hour+ .... but this is also the tub sitting in the room and not in the cupboard (26ish degrees in the cupboard with no filter and 2 30w cfls)
When I first put the filter on it was at 33+c
I can also feel air being sucked into the intake (although lightly) when I wet my hand (when I first did the filter I could not feel anything)
I also feel more air when I put my wet hand against the filter now.
So obviously, it has incresed the airflow a bit which is good.

I'd love to have it at 25-26 all the time but hell this thing sits in a closed (not sealed) cupboard so I can't expect it to be totally cool all the time.
Plus summers reach 35+c outside, so i'm sure that the little ones can take 30-31c as long as they are looked after and kept from drying out.
My tub isn't fully "sealed" too....so i'm sure if I sealed the little cracks around the pvc and put weather stripping along the rim of the tub to completely seal the lid when its on, that temps might drop a "tad" more.


Heres what I got in terms of the carbon.....you can see its really small. I put the dime there so you can tell just how small the grains are.
Theres different sizes in there too....when I fill the filter....i shook it a bit and small grains were falling through the screen so its not all the same size....you can tell just by looking at it.
I just need some that is just a little bigger then what I got. I just dont want to have to buy 10-20lbs of it just so I can get the size I want.

I may try to put even less carbon as I dont think I need as much as I even got now. when you think about it....filters that are 2+ feet long and 4-6 inch diameter only have a carbon bed thinkness of maybe 2 inches. and thats using 200-400+ cfm fans.
I'm using like a 35-40max cfm fan...so I'm hoping that as long as I cover the screen with a thin layer that it should still work and remove smell.
I guess well find out and see if I decide to try a thinner layer.

I could care less if it nees to be refilled somewhat often.....If I need to refill it once a week because I start smelling it....then so be it. It takes all of a couple min.
I'm sure this will last long enough that I wont have to refill toooooo often. It would soon get annoying lol
I'd be fine with having to do it once a month if that means I can grow shit for myself stealthly lol

Oh yea, about the ona tho...

I was thinking if I cant get temps in check.......that I would maybe just say fuck the filter and get a ONA "pro" (non scented) 6oz or whatever and just put it in the cupboard
As I would think that would be good enough to keep a few small little ones from stinkingup the room/house when they flower.

But we'll see

Got a little ambitious tonight, decided to try my other idea for a filter.

Went to the local crappy tire to get a pvc part...but they had nothing there bah.

Anyways, instead I went ahead and took a hacksaw and chopped off one end of the 90degree elbows I was using to use in place of the part I couldn't buy.

I took screen and epoxy'd it to one side of the piece I cut..... then I took one of my pvc end fittings (used the intake as I didnt want to pop the fan out of the exhaust one at the time as lights were on) and then epoxy'd some screen on the smaller end.

and volia....a easy diy filter

Now I am able to control the thinkness of carbon as I see fit. Just pour carbon into the first part and then slide the fitting on to seal the carbon in.
Then you just pop your 80mm fan (thats been trimmed and filed) in the large end of the pvc end fitting

I'm gonna give this a try tomorrow when the lights come on and see how it works
The other one I did works....but my inside screen just wasnt rigid enough and was bowing and the carbon loosened and fell out of place. This way I know each screen is firm and the pressure of putting both parts together keeps the carbon in place without worry.

few pics...