Samsung F Series LED Strip Build for a 3x3' (links for ALL parts inc.)

skoomd

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This light is rediculous lol, I haven't mapped out a complete PPFD chart for 36" distance but i'm getting 500-550 umol/s at that distance everywhere. 3 feet away!!!!!! That is unbelieveable. Shout out to the naysayers saying LEDs can't penetrate deeeeeeeeep down. cough yodaweed cough.

Here is my honey bananas (honey boo boo x strawberry banana) plant, currently 17 days from sprouting. Transplanted it from the solo cup to a 1 gallon pot 2 days ago, and it had a great rootsystem thanks to Recharge! I have her 3 feet away from the lights right now, mainly because I am too lazy to move it down and dim it. It's keeping the temps up anyways, it just snowed here yesterday. Internodes are still nice n tight.







Going to top her in the next few days, then start LST. Once I get her into a 7 gallon smart pot I will begin to scrog. Gonna be a bit of a long veg to fill up the whole tent, but oh well.
 

Colo MMJ

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Well he has a 3x3 build that uses the double row strips, and one using the single row strips. Im using the single row strips. The double row strips have twice the forward voltage because they're twice the power (so therefore twice the flux as well). So if you went with the double row strips, you'd only need 5 strips instead of 10, and you'd use the HLG-320H-48 driver instead of the HLG-320H-24 driver.
For a 4 x 4 using single row strips would I need 6 or 7 strips and a HLG-320H? This would be for flower. I was figuring on making the frame 3' x 3' or slightly larger. Thanks for all the good info. The output in your most recent post sounds awesome.
 

skoomd

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For a 4 x 4 using single row strips would I need 6 or 7 strips and a HLG-320H? This would be for flower. I was figuring on making the frame 3' x 3' or slightly larger. Thanks for all the good info. The output in your most recent post sounds awesome.
You'll want more power. I would do like 15 single row strips and an HLG 480h-24a

And the widest you'll be able to make the frame is only 2 feet, because the strips are only 22" long (then you'll use 24" heatsink)

You can get 44" strips though, which i would recommend if you're covering a 4x4

For that I would do 8-10 of the single row 44" strips and an HLG-480H-48A or an HLG-600H-48A
 

jarvild

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Seeing you want to flower a 3x3 space I'd suggest a HLG-320H-24 with 10-12 single strips. That would get you about 35 watts a sq. ft. for flower of 3,000k.
 

skoomd

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Seeing you want to flower a 3x3 space I'd suggest a HLG-320H-24 with 10-12 single strips. That would get you about 35 watts a sq. ft. for flower of 3,000k.
Oh did he just want to flower a 3x3 space but in a 4x4 tent?
 

1212ham

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This light is rediculous lol, I haven't mapped out a complete PPFD chart for 36" distance but i'm getting 500-550 umol/s at that distance everywhere. 3 feet away!!!!!! That is unbelieveable. Shout out to the naysayers saying LEDs can't penetrate deeeeeeeeep down. cough yodaweed cough.
Don't ya wish you had just bought a blurple. ;) Take that thing out to the back yard, then you'll really see how bright it is! LOL.
 

ANC

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For a 4 x 4 using single row strips would I need 6 or 7 strips and a HLG-320H? This would be for flower. I was figuring on making the frame 3' x 3' or slightly larger. Thanks for all the good info. The output in your most recent post sounds awesome.
I use 3 to 4 double row strips on 2x4 on a 320W.
 

ANC

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You will never grow 300g of weed on 300W of HID unless you do an ocean of small plants.
We are still a few days from harvest, I've taken a few tester buds, but they are not ready yet for drying and curing.

Also, I do not use the full 300W all grow long. I should have specified, that I adjusted my strips to about 100W each,
 

jarvild

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I easily grow 600 grams dried weight from 600 watts of HPS in a 4x4. But though I use GPW it's not what I really look at. I'm more interested in grams a sq. ft. of flower space. And I really don't care if I had to run the same amount of wattage of LEDs compared to HIDs to achieve these goals.
 

ANC

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Yes, from a 600W.
But at low power HID's suck in my opinion. I have a few 400W ballasts rusting around here somewhere.GML did give the dry and wet weights from his LED vs HPS growoff this past weekend on the show.
 

Colo MMJ

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Yes sorry, though we were talking to OP. My 4x4 build is 17 strips ran by 2 HLG-240's.
Damn - 17 Samsung 22" or 44" strips?

The 44" strips on DigiKey if you buy 10 is about $25.06. For a 4x4 - my other option might be 6 Sunboards/Wavy for $50 each. I think 6 boards are comparable to 1000 watt HPS SE running an HLG-480???. This would be $50 a board or $300. I am not sure what he charges for freight. Samsung 44" strips 12 at $25.06 = $300.72.

I sketched out a frame for the 6 Sunboards which seems pretty simple and a little easier than a frame for 12 to 17 Samsung 44" strips. Some guy attached his Samsung strips to pie pans then to frames.
 

Colo MMJ

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Yes, from a 600W.
But at low power HID's suck in my opinion. I have a few 400W ballasts rusting around here somewhere.GML did give the dry and wet weights from his LED vs HPS growoff this past weekend on the show.
As much as I want to get away from them - 1000 Watt HPS can kick some ass and pull real(big) numbers.
 

jarvild

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Damn - 17 Samsung 22" or 44" strips?

The 44" strips on DigiKey if you buy 10 is about $25.06. For a 4x4 - my other option might be 6 Sunboards/Wavy for $50 each. I think 6 boards are comparable to 1000 watt HPS SE running an HLG-480???. This would be $50 a board or $300. I am not sure what he charges for freight. Samsung 44" strips 12 at $25.06 = $300.72.

I sketched out a frame for the 6 Sunboards which seems pretty simple and a little easier than a frame for 12 to 17 Samsung 44" strips. Some guy attached his Samsung strips to pie pans then to frames.
Sorry, that's for single strips of 22 "
 

jarvild

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As much as I want to get away from them - 1000 Watt HPS can kick some ass and pull real(big) numbers.
Yes, from a 600W.
But at low power HID's suck in my opinion. I have a few 400W ballasts rusting around here somewhere.GML did give the dry and wet weights from his LED vs HPS growoff this past weekend on the show.
Yes, but I was pulling a gram a watt from a 400 HPS 20+ years ago. I still run a 250w and 400w MH in my veg rooms plus a 600 and a 750 DE in my flower rooms and do quite well with them.
 
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