Sannies 'Sugar Punch' grow.

Unbelievable. I have found my goal. Holy crap.

Your kind words have spurred me on to post some up to date tent pics. These were taken prior to feeding earlier. Really optimised the 120x120 space this time, canopy is pretty much a metre square, just the two back corners free, one for the desk fan, the other corner will be taken up by a dehumidifier I will be getting next week. I think this is the way I will grow in future - less plants with LST. Next grow will be 4 plants with 7 weeks veg, the grow after 3 plants with 12 weeks veg again.



The CFL's are 125W, they were both Blue, but I switched one over to a warm Red today.

They look great, and I love the v-shaped canopy of Q-bert

Is yer fan facing away from the girls?

bassman999 said:

Is yer fan facing away from the girls?

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Yeah. It's a bit big and powerful to be blowing straight on them with it being so close. It gives good air flow with all leaves getting movement, but I am considering a couple of smaller fans which could oscillate across the plants. *edit - the fan blows against the wall of the tent and back across the plants*

And thank you. Appreciated.

Bigby said:

Yeah. It's a bit big and powerful to be blowing straight on them with it being so close. It gives good air flow with all leaves getting movement, but I am considering a couple of smaller fans which could oscillate across the plants. *edit - the fan blows against the wall of the tent and back across the plants*

And thank you. Appreciated.

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I understand, my big fan causes windburn on the closest ones

Yeah, that's it totally. It is something I'm going to address though. Not used to having such a genuinely full canopy, just need a smaller fan is all - as I do prefer having the plants blown about properly, especially towards the end of flowering.

I've been getting high humidity the last few days due to the weather warming up. It topped out at 60% last night. I will be getting a dehumidifier next week to address this as I just can't bear the idea of bud rot again.

Bigby said:

Yeah, that's it totally. It is something I'm going to address though. Not used to having such a genuinely full canopy, just need a smaller fan is all - as I do prefer having the plants blown about properly, especially towards the end of flowering.

I've been getting high humidity the last few days due to the weather warming up. It topped out at 60% last night. I will be getting a dehumidifier next week to address this as I just can't bear the idea of bud rot again.

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My humidity is so low here that I have to mist my veggers hourly.
I saw the lowest 15% one day last week, but its starting to even out again with 30% on average now

That's what mine was like right through the winter - which I love for flowering. Mine should drop a little when the wind switches to a northerly - still gonna get the dehumidifier though, take away the stress of high humidity and summer growing.

BEAUTIFUL ! Not much branching fo sho .

Bigby said:

That's what mine was like right through the winter - which I love for flowering. Mine should drop a little when the wind switches to a northerly - still gonna get the dehumidifier though, take away the stress of high humidity and summer growing.

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The wind here is Northerly right now for the most part, and with it came the drop.
I mean my flowering area was 22% with the exhaust off and closed up at times.
I think that may cause problems?
I was spraying the floor and walls with water to get it back to 30% and then turned exhaust back on and kept an eye on it.
The water would evaporate in 20 min or less, and I had the floor soaked!
This is in the garage cement floor btw, and panda film for walls

I gave up worrying about low humidity. I did similar to you for a couple of grows - misting like crazy to the point that the floor and walls were often soaking. Things is it never made a huge difference to the humidity (10% max like you seem to be achieving), but I did get bud rot, two grows in a row. There were other contributory factors, but I'm sure that didn't help. When I cleaned up there was definite mould under the ground sheet of the tent.

Now I just accept the low humidity. Like I say, not had any growing problems I could have put down to it - just makes drying a little bit too quick. I could get an AC unit but they are so expensive for something I don't even perceive as a problem.

Bigby said:

I could get an AC unit but they are so expensive for something I don't even perceive as a problem.

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Yeah besides the cost of buying it the power cost added to it makes it not an option for me. That's why I love a winter grow, I can control temp much easier. Now I switched to hydroponics I really need to get a dehumidifier as well as it no longer drops below 65%, while on soil I had it at 30-45 with little effort.

bassman999 said:

I was spraying the floor and walls with water to get it back to 30% and then turned exhaust back on and kept an eye on it.
The water would evaporate in 20 min or less, and I had the floor soaked!

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Been there, done that too I ended up placing a fog maker outside my grow closet, with ducting towards the active intake. Only raised it 3% or so, but it's a small and cheap fogger with little output so if I ever need to raise humidity again I will try a better one.

Bigby said:

I gave up worrying about low humidity. I did similar to you for a couple of grows - misting like crazy to the point that the floor and walls were often soaking. Things is it never made a huge difference to the humidity (10% max like you seem to be achieving), but I did get bud rot, two grows in a row. There were other contributory factors, but I'm sure that didn't help. When I cleaned up there was definite mould under the ground sheet of the tent.

Now I just accept the low humidity. Like I say, not had any growing problems I could have put down to it - just makes drying a little bit too quick. I could get an AC unit but they are so expensive for something I don't even perceive as a problem.

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I never misted the flowering plants directly, but mold would really suck!
I had really bad mold problems in a greenhouse grow, and the main one was the GDP, where I lost part of the main cola on both, and also on my Grape Apes.
I am not sure if thats what you did, or just the water around the girls was enough to cause mold?

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Yeah besides the cost of buying it the power cost added to it makes it not an option for me. That's why I love a winter grow, I can control temp much easier. Now I switched to hydroponics I really need to get a dehumidifier as well as it no longer drops below 65%, while on soil I had it at 30-45 with little effort.

Been there, done that too I ended up placing a fog maker outside my grow closet, with ducting towards the active intake. Only raised it 3% or so, but it's a small and cheap fogger with little output so if I ever need to raise humidity again I will try a better one.

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So hydroponics raises humidity, I have an ebb and gro setup I need to get into motion, and that info helps me to decide what season to use it.
Never done hydro b4 and dont want to ruin a grow, so it isnt used yet lol.

Well I soaked the floor a few times which I feel set up the conditions, then I think I probably introduced the mould spores myself by clearing my passive intake vents without removing the plants from the tent. Now when I do that all the plants are removed and I scrub the tent with bleach afterwards. That first time the spores were allowed to sit on the moist floor to the end of that first problematic grow and all of the next one. I felt very foolish about it, but have learnt from my mistakes. I'm probably over cautious now if anything - which is why I actually welcome low humidity. lol

bassman999 said:

So hydroponics raises humidity, I have an ebb and gro setup I need to get into motion, and that info helps me to decide what season to use it.
Never done hydro b4 and dont want to ruin a grow, so it isnt used yet lol.

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I think it differs per system but it does in my diy hydroponic setup (aeroflo clone). I needed to make some unplanned adjustments forcing me to remove a piece of rubber and now the rez is not 100% air tight closed so fixing that will probably improve it but I doubt it will go back to what I had with soil.

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Never done hydro b4 and dont want to ruin a grow, so it isnt used yet lol.

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I had so much from my Sugar Punch harvest that I can afford to screw up a entire cycle and fall back to soil after that without running out of personal stash Hydro is not difficult or risky though, gives you more control (besides way faster vegging).

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Well I soaked the floor a few times which I feel set up the conditions, then I think I probably introduced the mould spores myself by clearing my passive intake vents without removing the plants from the tent. Now when I do that all the plants are removed and I scrub the tent with bleach afterwards. That first time the spores were allowed to sit on the moist floor to the end of that first problematic grow and all of the next one. I felt very foolish about it, but have learnt from my mistakes. I'm probably over cautious now if anything - which is why I actually welcome low humidity. lol

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I clean up well between runs now as well.
i also spray neem on walls and floors periodically during flowering.
I dont know if that helps, but just misting pots and everything, and I leave everythingopen and have fans moving air well.

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I think it differs per system but it does in my diy hydroponic setup (aeroflo clone). I needed to make some unplanned adjustments forcing me to remove a piece of rubber and now the rez is not 100% air tight closed so fixing that will probably improve it but I doubt it will go back to what I had with soil.

I had so much from my Sugar Punch harvest that I can afford to screw up a entire cycle and fall back to soil after that without running out of personal stash Hydro is not difficult or risky though, gives you more control (besides way faster vegging).

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I am just trying to decide which strain to try out in my EBB&GRO, but might not be till after summer so I can save some money on elec while I do a few outside.Ill check out that link in a few.

Just noticed something very curious whilst feeding big bushy. One of her lower branches was starting to lose out, getting a little droopy and sorry for itself. It seemed quite long so I traced it back and it's from right down near the base of the main stem. The way it was tide was stopping it being able to move up, so it was stretching out sideways. I have now untied this one piece, and the branch can actually fit in the central section where there was a hole without much growth. It doesn't sit there on it's own, so I will put a small stake in the centre of the pot and attempt to tether the stem/branch to it. It looks a bit raggedy now, but I'm sure with some support and proper light it will come good in a couple of weeks; just in time for ripening (she's at week 4 of 12/12 now - sativa dom pheno). I will sort some pics of it next time I feed her.

Turns out the stem was damaged at the top, so I cut this bit off with a fresh razor blade. A couple of the other branches from it needed removing too so I could tie it up to the stake. But it is now there in the central space, with most of the thickness of the stem in tact. Plenty of little mine branches with bud sites on coming off it. I am very intrigued to see what is produced from them, because without my intervention it would have yielded next to nothing; plus I could have just chopped off the branch, this way I get some bud from it.

The Kolossus is still stretching. She is just about 2ft tall now. I used the pipe cleaner with a weight on the end to bend over the highest top, hopefully keep things level. She is ever so slightly taller than Big Bushy right now. I expect her to stop stretching after 3 weeks which is in about 3 days, so looks like I've nailed a decent, even canopy.