Say goodbye to a woman's right to choose

HAF2 said:
Oh so he doesn't even pay taxes? What's the big wup about tax dollars being spent then? Sounds like an argument tactic in order to vilify women who feel they need an abortion. Gross.
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I'll move along. Pity, you ran so quickly from the contradictions in your own arguments.

You have a good day and please respect others rights to chose.
 
HAF2 said:
How do you figure I didn't answer the question? I said clearly I feel people that complain about their tax dollars being spent on abortion do not appear, in my opinion, to care about where the rest of their tax dollars are spent to the same degree.
This is not an issue of money, and pretending that it is only makes you appear obtuse. This is an issue of governing someone else's body through government interventions.
Let's start putting the same stipulations on checking for prostate cancer in men and the resulting treatments. I don't have to worry about that, so I don't want to pay for it. See how rediculous that sounds?
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You championed the "right to chose" when it was convenient to your argument.

Then you shit on it when it came to another persons right to make their own choices about themselves and how they use their own property.

That's a contradiction, which means you don't even agree with your own original premise.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
 
cool2burn said:
That is is kind of the problem Accidents? Take some responsibility. my dick accidentally fell in there. I accidentally didn't pull out or use a condom. She accidentally forgot to take birth control...... This is nothing more then trying to shift responsibility. If you decide to get down and dirty with no protection then it is 100% their fault that she is pregnant and 100% your responsibility to face the consequences. I know you do not like to hear that. God forbid someone take responsibility for their actions.
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Don't put your dick in it unless you are willing to be financially responsible for 50%. Period.

That 50% means whatever the outcome.. $30 for the pill, $400 for the abortion or the $288k is costs to raise a child until age 18.

Your choice.
 
Rob Roy said:
You championed the "right to chose" when it was convenient to your argument.

Then you shit on it when it came to another persons right to make their own choices about themselves and how they use their own property.

That's a contradiction, which means you don't even agree with your own original premise.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
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I think people should be given the right to choose, to choose whether or not they feel they need an abortion. I do not feel they should be given the right to choose whether SOMEONE ELSE has the right to have an abortion though.
We will have to agree to disagree on this issue.
 
schuylaar said:
Don't put your dick in it unless you are willing to be financially responsible for 50%. Period.

That 50% means whatever the outcome.. $30 for the pill, $400 for the abortion or the $288k is costs to raise a child until age 18.

Your choice.
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That makes me wonder.

If a man is to be held 50% financially responsible, should he have 50% of the say of whether or not the woman decides to abort?
 
Rob Roy said:
That makes me wonder.

If a man is to be held 50% financially responsible, should he have 50% of the say of whether or not the woman decides to abort?
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If he carries the baby to term then he has 100% of the choice.
 
Rob Roy said:
You championed the "right to chose" when it was convenient to your argument.

Then you shit on it when it came to another persons right to make their own choices about themselves and how they use their own property.

That's a contradiction, which means you don't even agree with your own original premise.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
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:cry:
 
HAF2 said:
I think people should be given the right to choose, to choose whether or not they feel they need an abortion. I do not feel they should be given the right to choose whether SOMEONE ELSE has the right to have an abortion though.
We will have to agree to disagree on this issue.
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So, when I use my body to labor and create something of value, and it becomes my possession, should I then be forced to give it to another person ?

Wouldn't that mean someone else is forcibly making my choices for me ? I thought we were in agreement that people should have a right to chose?

It seems like your disagreement is internal and you can't quite make up your own mind if people have a right to chose.
 
Rob Roy said:
I'm glad you believe a person has a right to chose. That's exactly why I don't think forcing person A to pay for person B's choices can be justified.

What makes you think a person DOESN'T have a right to chose when it comes to funding things you like, but that they don't?
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Define person A and person B.
 
Justin-case said:
:cry:
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Unable that see things from another persons perspective and only interesting in information that supports his narrative.
In the right to choose the only choice you can make wholeheartedly for yourself is whether to get an abortion or not get an abortion in a given situation.
These anti abortion folks seem to want to make the choice for everyone, and somehow feel that's ok. Like taking away a woman's right to an abortion is in any way shape or form the same as taking away their choice of paying for it through tax dollars.
Not even in the same ballpark.
 
Rob Roy said:
So, when I use my body to labor and create something of value, and it becomes my possession, should I then be forced to give it to another person ?

Wouldn't that mean someone else is forcibly making my choices for me ? I thought we were in agreement that people should have a right to chose?

It seems like your disagreement is internal and you can't quite make up your own mind if people have a right to chose.
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You are so fucking obtuse.

It must be hell living with you.
 
Rob Roy said:
So, when I use my body to labor and create something of value, and it becomes my possession, should I then be forced to give it to another person ?

Wouldn't that mean someone else is forcibly making my choices for me ? I thought we were in agreement that people should have a right to chose?

It seems like your disagreement is internal and you can't quite make up your own mind if people have a right to chose.
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People have a right to choose what happens in their own body. Not what happens in someone else's body. The fact that you can draw comparisons to taking away the abortion rights of someone to paying taxes makes me think you're disingenuous. There's a difference and if you can't see that, well that's just sad.
 
schuylaar said:
You are so fucking obtuse.

It must be hell living with you.
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Madam, I had expected more from you.

Hell living with me? One man's trash is another man's treasure I guess.

My beloved just brought me my morning repast and she will be rewarded later today with my undying devotion to her carnal needs. We are quite happy in our little Shag rila.
 
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