Scarlet for those accused of rape on campus

Fogdog

Fogdog

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MidnightWolf said:
Wasn't it stated earlier that whether or not a guy was convicted that the scarlet letter would remain in his college records? Any guy that rapes a woman should not only be castrated but have his dick cut off as well. I just don't like how the stigma remains with the 8%. even under false accusations. Forever, think about that.
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I'm not sure I'd go as far as mutilation.

Your words: "whether or not a guy was convicted that the scarlet letter would remain in his college records". I'm not aware of that being stated in any of the reports that I've read. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody said that here or in an editorial-blog. I read a few reports on this issue just to become more aware of facts and didn't read that in a credible report but I could have missed,it. If you can post something factual on this that says otherwise, I'd be interested in reading it.
 
NewtoMJ

NewtoMJ

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Fogdog said:
Is rape a crime or is it a violation of a code of conduct?

Can somebody tell me why we need a paralegal sexual assault investigatory panel staffed and run by the college? This is probably the only time that I will find myself in agreement with DD. Criminal matters need to be turned over to the police -- for example, the catholic church is dealing with repercussions from their failure to report sex crimes. Nobody other than the police have the resources or training to handle the matter. The idea of an opaque investigatory committee staffed by college officials seems fraught with the possibility of error in both directions. The police can still bungle the investigation but at least there will be only one system to deal with.

I still see nothing wrong with a convicted rapist being tracked as a part of normal procedures even after they've served their sentence as long as the conviction is made in a court of law.
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It's both. If this is your position, how do you feel about employers disciplining employees for sexual misconduct? It's not always going to be illegal, but does that make it right?
 
MidnightWolf

MidnightWolf

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Fogdog said:
I'm not sure I'd go as far as mutilation.

Your words: "whether or not a guy was convicted that the scarlet letter would remain in his college records". I'm not aware of that being stated in any of the reports that I've read. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody said that here or in an editorial-blog. I read a few reports on this issue just to become more aware of facts and didn't read that in a credible report but I could have missed,it. If you can post something factual on this that says otherwise, I'd be interested in reading it.
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My bad. My opinion is based entirely on what I read here, I have not researched that statement. Thanks for slapping me back to reality. It's a tough subject and I can quickly get passionate about it. I'm sorry but mutilation prevents further incident and there is absolutely no excuse for committing rape. By the same measure, the destruction that can be achieved by accusation alone can be devastating. Now I'll go do my research.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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NewtoMJ said:
It's both. If this is your position, how do you feel about employers disciplining employees for sexual misconduct? It's not always going to be illegal, but does that make it right?
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Interesting that you think this is my position. I posed a question regarding the need for these panels and @abandonconflict replied back with a thoughtful answer that helped me shape my opinion.

I still think that a legal conviction can only be made in a court of law. I also think these panels fill a vacuum that the legal system has created. There is a need for them. Your analogy of how employers enforce policy is valid.

Still, these paralegal investigatory panels are fraught with the possibility of error in both directions. The possibility of error or abuse of power by the panel is not a reason for opposing them, it is a reason for putting some checks in place. I'm glad the colleges are taking steps to protect students from sexual predators.
 
MidnightWolf

MidnightWolf

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Fogdog said:
Interesting that you think this is my position. I posed a question regarding the need for these panels and @abandonconflict replied back with a thoughtful answer that helped me shape my opinion.

I still think that a legal conviction can only be made in a court of law. I also think these panels fill a vacuum that the legal system has created. There is a need for them. Your analogy of how employers enforce policy is valid.

Still, these paralegal investigatory panels are fraught with the possibility of error in both directions. The possibility of error or abuse of power by the panel is not a reason for opposing them, it is a reason for putting some checks in place. I'm glad the colleges are taking steps to protect students from sexual predators.
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I agree with all you say here. I strongly agree that a legal conviction is a job for the courts only and that the panels could be a good thing as long as there are those checks in place and as long as those checks are not corrupted or distorted.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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MidnightWolf said:
And if it's found later to be a false accusation, the guy is still labeled a rapist in his school records? Nice......! Love the High Times phoney ass report by that bitch of a reporter. Why was she not charged?
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i bet you're a hit at parties.

and that women never leave their drinks unattended around you.
 
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