Schuylaar's Sesh - SCOTUS Upholds Public Prayer..

killemsoftly said:

I don't buy islamic extremists representing islam anymore than I buy the Tea Party representing the average American.
The very same people who have antagonized muslims to secure oil supplies now want us to double down on a war of civilizations.
No thanks.
Solve the Arab-Israeli problem and the extremists would be ignored within a decade.
The problem with selling a line of shit is that it smells.

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Jihad loves you, then, They have extract Jizya Tax from you already with this attitude. Inner Jihad. Conquest of your mind. That is how they roll. And the problem is they roll much better than ever with modern stuff we build for them and they buy with oil money.

Of course Islam has you fooled. It is the MO.

If you will try this on any Muslim, as I have, you will see. You have to go easy, They will clam up and tap dance you into word death, if they can. But, if you can get it pinned, any and all Muslims will never say they can co-exist.

It is conquest even for the most meek and most full (seemingly) of gentle piety.

No religion on earth is allowed but Islam. They don't see this as religion.

They see it as Governance and they mean that for us all. Of course, you can't see it.

But, I have pinned down more than one Sunni Muslim on this board. Most will tap dance about it and not be pinned. They say they have the right to believe anything or "show me in the book where it say that" (all tap dance), but will never renounce conquest for Islam. A few, that Chechen guy, especially was very straight forward about it. We decided to kill each other in battle, but until then...,,

If you think you are so smart, go ask around. I sure have,

It they are honest, they will tell you they believe it is the will of Allah to have only Islam on earth. If they are honest (not so much to the infidel) they will say they cannot go against this. It is blasphemy to allow another religion to exist.

It is God's Will. That justifies it all.

Just ask them. None will renounce conquest. Even my very good Pashtun friend, citizen of the USA, will say, "but if it is God's will?"

Scary.

ginwilly said:

UofM installed footbaths in every restroom for religious reasons.

I don't think the world will every be free of religious bs. I hope you are right and I am wrong on this but people love love love the thought of an afterlife and seeing those they love "on the other side". I say whatever makes you happy...

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You're probably correct that it'll never be fully eradicated (there'll always be stupid people), however I'm hoping people will learn to keep their fairy stories in their brain and let society move forward in a secular, realist fashion.

Its interesting, there's an observable statistical link between intelligence and religious belief.

Less than 40% of bachelors holders in sciences believe in a personal god, and when you look to elite scientists it falls to under 9%.

But as Neil Degrees Tyson said, 9% is still too high, how can we convince the general public if that number is above 0%?

Canna Sylvan said:

Then those islamics should've thought it over better before they invaded my Buddhist ken about 1,000 years ago. Mahmud attacked my people because he was butt hurt over getting his ass kicked by the Qarakhanid. I say it's payback time.

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If you're a true Buddhist, you cant even encourage or condone violence.

But you're not a real Buddhist, its just your flavour of the week.

And why do you think these Jihadists are against education? They are not stupid,

The war is to educate the women. But, if you aggregate girls in schools, then they can be burned, or shot, etc, like Afghanistan or abducted, like in Nigeria.

So, you are right, but Jihad has plans against you.

Doer said:

And why do you think these Jihadists are against education? They are not stupid,

The war is to educate the women. But, if you aggregate girls in schools, then they can be burned, or shot, etc, like Afghanistan or abducted, like in Nigeria.

So, you are right, but Jihad has plans against you.

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Who are you even talking to?

Harrekin said:

You're probably correct that it'll never be fully eradicated (there'll always be stupid people), however I'm hoping people will learn to keep their fairy stories in their brain and let society move forward in a secular, realist fashion.

Its interesting, there's an observable statistical link between intelligence and religious belief.

Less than 40% of bachelors holders in sciences believe in a personal god, and when you look to elite scientists it falls to under 9%.

But as Neil Degrees Tyson said, 9% is still too high, how can we convince the general public if that number is above 0%?

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There are some weak-minded people that NEED the comfort of a magical afterlife to explain some of life's little mysteries. God's will helps people cope when shitty things happens to good people. Life can be a bitch works better for me, but for a lot of people, they can't deal with that sentiment emotionally. Love is a similar fairytale.

I'm guessing the paranoid rantings over muslims is over for now.

Harrekin said:

If you're a true Buddhist, you cant even encourage or condone violence.

But you're not a real Buddhist, its just your flavour of the week.

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You know not what you speak.

Harrekin said:

You're probably correct that it'll never be fully eradicated (there'll always be stupid people), however I'm hoping people will learn to keep their fairy stories in their brain and let society move forward in a secular, realist fashion.

Its interesting, there's an observable statistical link between intelligence and religious belief.

Less than 40% of bachelors holders in sciences believe in a personal god, and when you look to elite scientists it falls to under 9%.

But as Neil Degrees Tyson said, 9% is still too high, how can we convince the general public if that number is above 0%?

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Everyone is spiritual no matter how hard you try to deny that fact.

BANG! The universe. WTF kind of explanation is that?

Canna Sylvan said:

Everyone is spiritual no matter how hard you try to deny that fact.

BANG! The universe. WTF kind of explanation is that?

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The one that has some level of evidence to support it...?

Canna Sylvan said:

You know not what you speak.

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I studied Buddhism quite a bit actually, just if Id gone for it, I couldn't call people like you "shit for brains" anymore.

Harrekin said:

I studied Buddhism quite a bit actually, just if Id gone for it, I couldn't call people like you "shit for brains" anymore.

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Everyone's a Buddha and not. Even the Buddha himself. Or else why would the Buddha dwell upon shit and meditate? The world isn't perfect, and so would eat meat when offered. Back then Buddha was more interested in spreading his world view. Others wouldn't have listened to one word if he talked about how all life is essentially the same, and eating animals is eating part of the anima mundi. But I'm not him, and don't live in his time. Nothing bad is going to happen, and I don't give a shit about others becoming enlightened, since the method is out there. Figure it out for yourself. Buddhism is more about doing, and less about being told. The fact you said your quote means you didn't get a damn thing from all your "studying." To be blunt, you only need the fundamentals and then quit this studying nonsense. You have a lot more MEDITATING to do before you can consider yourself Buddhist. Maybe Doer can help you. He's the only one here who could point you in the right direction, if that's your wish. When you say "gone for it," that pretty much means studying Buddhism was a waste for you. Come back once you're willing to embrace the dharma.

Bunny's pissed now.

killemsoftly said:

Bunny's pissed now.

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I'm not pissed. I'm trying to help a fellow brother Buddhist who has lost his way. If he doesn't want to come back, no big deal. Society doesn't like Buddhism and puts up walls. Those walls are illusions. All you have to do is keep going. But if you believe those walls are real, you won't try and they become real.

Canna Sylvan said:

I'm not pissed. I'm trying to help a fellow brother Buddhist who has lost his way. If he doesn't want to come back, no big deal. Society doesn't like Buddhism and puts up walls. Those walls are illusions. All you have to do is keep going. But if you believe those walls are real, you won't try and they become real.

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I was just j/k around.
No biggee

Canna Sylvan said:

Everyone is spiritual no matter how hard you try to deny that fact.

BANG! The universe. WTF kind of explanation is that?

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Because magic is a much better explanation.

schuylaar said:

i think that is wrong because we should not have to be subject to someone else's beliefs (religious) regardless of whether or not our founding fathers believed in such. I do understand they would open public meetings with prayer but that ship has long sailed..why not something then from the quran or torah?

prayer should be like smoking, like anything else that others deem offensive to them..i find it very offensive to have to listen/subject to that shit.

freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion.

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That ringing in your head? It's your cognitive dissonance bell going off. Of course nobody should be subject to someone else's beliefs. Ahem....Obamacare much?

sheskunk said:

Because magic is a much better explanation.

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At some point you reach the point of magic which is just what we can't explain. Like with Euclidean geometry, you must accept with faith the four postulates are fact, they have no reason, it's magic they work.

Canna Sylvan said:

At some point you reach the point of magic which is just what we can't explain. Like with Euclidean geometry, you must accept with faith the four postulates are fact, they have no reason, it's magic they work.

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Like dragons and unicorns?

sheskunk said:

Like dragons and unicorns?

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You're plainly a bitch, or the stupidest person on the planet. I doubt I met that person, so I'm going with bitch.