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NoDrama

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you must have some weird friends then.

i have seen people post pics of their pets, maybe their kids, but not so often or so belligerently.
To directly answer your question if any of my thousands of friends puts of pics of all their guns unprovoked? It has never happened to tell you the truth. I have a friend that posts his fucking cars all the fucking time though, and don't forget the people that post about their children 5 or 6 times per day.
 

tightpockt

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I just don't get it, I never really feel like im in that much danger, and I live in a big east coast city (surprise!).
I'm not going to lie, crime rates here are pretty high and I've even thought about getting a gun...but then I thought about it and I realized I've never really been in a life threatening situation personally. I mean, I've been in my fair share of scraps but nothing that required a gun.
and when I think about those situations I think about what would have happened if I did have a gun or if they did...how much worse they could have potentially been.
I guess i just dont fear this boogeyman "bad guy" who's looking to kill me and my family the second I let my guard down.
to me, just by carrying a gun means you're scared allll the time. Thats a crazy way to live.
 

Dr Kynes

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To directly answer your question if any of my thousands of friends puts of pics of all their guns unprovoked? It has never happened to tell you the truth. I have a friend that posts his fucking cars all the fucking time though, and don't forget the people that post about their children 5 or 6 times per day.
but their children are not tools of oppression and racism...

unless they are white children.
 

Dr Kynes

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I just don't get it, I never really feel like im in that much danger, and I live in a big east coast city (surprise!).
I'm not going to lie, crime rates here are pretty high and I've even thought about getting a gun...but then I thought about it and I realized I've never really been in a life threatening situation personally. I mean, I've been in my fair share of scraps but nothing that required a gun.
and when I think about those situations I think about what would have happened if I did have a gun or if they did...how much worse they could have potentially been.
I guess i just dont fear this boogeyman "bad guy" who's looking to kill me and my family the second I let my guard down.
to me, just by carrying a gun means you're scared allll the time. Thats a crazy way to live.
so being prepared is being scared?

you got a spare tire in your trunk?

a patch kit for your bicycle tyres?

a flashlight in case the power goes out?

nope, you wont give in to the fear.

instead youll just hope for the best, and if shit goes sideways, somebody else will come along and bail you out.

great thinking seinfeld.
 

UncleBuck

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To directly answer your question if any of my thousands of friends puts of pics of all their guns unprovoked? It has never happened to tell you the truth. I have a friend that posts his fucking cars all the fucking time though, and don't forget the people that post about their children 5 or 6 times per day.
my friends post appropriately for the most part with their ugly offspring. i can just see the car guy you are talking about though.
 

tightpockt

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so being prepared is being scared?

you got a spare tire in your trunk?

a patch kit for your bicycle tyres?

a flashlight in case the power goes out?

nope, you wont give in to the fear.

instead youll just hope for the best, and if shit goes sideways, somebody else will come along and bail you out.

great thinking seinfeld.
Prepared for what? When it's cloudy outside I don't walk around with copper wire dragging behind me to ground me in case lightning strikes.
My point, wether you missed it on purpose or not, was that in my estimation the risks greatly outweigh the benefits.
 

SirGreenThumb

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What shitty school did you go to? Weird kids doing things for attention all own guns now? The world really isn't like that. 2 out of 3 people own a firearm in this country. Most of them own a firearm for sporting purposes, rarely is the only reason somneone owns a firearm so that they can kill someone when the opportunity presents itself. Wanting the ability to defend yourself is not the same thing.
Indeed. I have 4 guns, 2 are used for hunting as is my crossbow, my sidearms usually my px4 is always with me as a just in case. I've only had to pull my sidearm once because of two drunk fuckers trying to start shit and one had a 3 ft steel bar, I took aim at his knee caps and gave him the option to turn around and go home or lose his knees..
They turned around and went home.
People seem to think that moments like that are easy to deal with.. Let me tell you, in my stance, my back leg was shaking, but I would have done what needed to be done if he would have taken one more step closer to me.
 

NoDrama

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Prepared for what? When it's cloudy outside I don't walk around with copper wire dragging behind me to ground me in case lightning strikes.
My point, wether you missed it on purpose or not, was that in my estimation the risks greatly outweigh the benefits.
I assume you do not wear seatbelts, after all, you can't die,the fact you haven't died yet is all the proof you need.
 

UncleBuck

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My point, wether you missed it on purpose or not, was that in my estimation the risks greatly outweigh the benefits.
A subsequent Kellermann-led study identified both fatal and nonfatal injuries occurring in homes in 3 cities – Seattle WA, Memphis TN, and Galveston TX. It noted that for every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four accidental shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides. (J of Trauma, August 1998. pp: 263-267). He then developed the now much criticized 43:1 ratio that states every time a gun is used in self-defense, it is 43 times more likely to be used in a homicide, suicide, or accidental shooting.
 

Dr Kynes

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Prepared for what? When it's cloudy outside I don't walk around with copper wire dragging behind me to ground me in case lightning strikes.
My point, wether you missed it on purpose or not, was that in my estimation the risks greatly outweigh the benefits.
what risks?

a gun is no more dangerous to an experienced operator than a paring knife in your kitchen.
do you worry about your baseball bat sneaking out of the closet and bashing your head in while you sleep?
are you dreadfully concerned that your hair dryer will creep into the bathtub with you and plug itself in?
do you lie awake at night fearing that your ceiling fann will detatch itself from it's brackets and swing down to chop you up if you dont keep a close eye on it?

yeah, i bet you roll around without a spare tyre or a jack in your car, and when you get a flat tyre, after a passing good samaritan fixes your shit, you call him a dirty prepper and spit in his face.
 

NoDrama

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A subsequent Kellermann-led study identified both fatal and nonfatal injuries occurring in homes in 3 cities – Seattle WA, Memphis TN, and Galveston TX. It noted that for every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four accidental shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides. (J of Trauma, August 1998. pp: 263-267). He then developed the now much criticized 43:1 ratio that states every time a gun is used in self-defense, it is 43 times more likely to be used in a homicide, suicide, or accidental shooting.
One problem though, the great majority of guns saving lives are never reported.

When a mugger tries to rob you, but runs away when he sees you packing, you don't call the police and report it. Most people won't report it because of the hassle and the fact that the police will only snoop into your shit since they have no perp and won't ever find him.
 

SirGreenThumb

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One problem though, the great majority of guns saving lives are never reported.

When a mugger tries to rob you, but runs away when he sees you packing, you don't call the police and report it. Most people won't report it because of the hassle and the fact that the police will only snoop into your shit since they have no perp and won't ever find him.
I never reported the time that saved mine. There was no point, the threat was thwarted and no one got hurt.
 

tightpockt

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NoDrapost: 10477803 said:
I assume you do not wear seatbelts, after all, you can't die,the fact you haven't died yet is all the proof you need.
Seat belts reduce my chances of being killed.
Gun ownership increases my chances of being killed.
See the difference?
 

NoDrama

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I never reported the time that saved mine. There was no point, the threat was thwarted and no one got hurt.
The first time I had a home invasion i was able to stop them in their tracks and was very persuasive in making them leave with the help of a Glock .40, I called the police. The cops asked the next door neighbor if they saw anything and that was the end of the investigation. Nothing happened, the next time I didn't bother calling them since it would have been several hours out of my day for nothing but a bunch of questions pertaining to myself.
 

SirGreenThumb

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The first time I had a home invasion i was able to stop them in their tracks and was very persuasive in making them leave with the help of a Glock .40, I called the police. The cops asked the next door neighbor if they saw anything and that was the end of the investigation. Nothing happened, the next time I didn't bother calling them since it would have been several hours out of my day for nothing but a bunch of questions pertaining to myself.
Just curious, how long did it take for the police to get to your house?
 

NoDrama

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Seat belts reduce my chances of being killed.
Gun ownership increases my chances of being killed.
See the difference?
Gun ownership INCREASES your chances of not becoming a victim. Not everyone is responsible enough to own a firearm though. As long as you follow the rules of ownership your chances of accidents happening are so minimized as to be insignificant.
 
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