Lucky Luke
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If you bought the seeds off the original breeder then they all are. If you bought the seeds of a breeder who recreated it then none are.
Scientist says all cannabis basically the same?
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No, no, no.
The breeder aint handing those stable strains out. He's holding onto them like gold.
Theyre expecting us to find the right pheno to clone.
It sucks.
Xs121
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See, this is the real problem here, its obvious my seeds are from an F1. Most likely, a selfied F1.
Okay let's say the F1 is fire (aka CBD Blueberry)
The breeder selfie the F1 to sell the seeds...as feminized seeds
The feminized seed "is not" gonna have the same genetic makeup as the mother, simply because the genetic makeup of the mother is not stable. A seed could inherited 40% from the father of the F1 and another seed could inherited 60% from the father. What I'm saying here is, not all seeds will have the same genetic make-up.
So therefore, with 4 phenotypes, maybe one is the real CBD Blueberry, the rests are phenotypes of the parents of F1 which are not CBD Blueberry. Worst scenario, all of them are not CBD Blueberry. Close maybe, but not as close to the F1....these seeds can be considered as F2's
morgwar
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Better off with our own stuff period.
I haven't seen much in seed form lately that impresses me more than my own "chucks"
Nobodies gonna convince me that orange cookies or "grape gelato" whatever has anything to offer genetically or medically let alone actually smell or taste like their namesake.
The idiocy has to stop.
I wouldn't expect everyone to achieve or strive for "ibl" but a decent level of, true breeding, should be achieved
I haven't seen much in seed form lately that impresses me more than my own "chucks"
Nobodies gonna convince me that orange cookies or "grape gelato" whatever has anything to offer genetically or medically let alone actually smell or taste like their namesake.
The idiocy has to stop.
I wouldn't expect everyone to achieve or strive for "ibl" but a decent level of, true breeding, should be achieved
Lucky Luke
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No he is selling them. Of cause you need to find the pheno you want if your going to breed off it or use as a mother....
Lucky Luke
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I love fem seeds due to my space and counts but we all know regs are the go if searching for a particular trait. I don't think people who do large seed runs to find traits there after would use Fems. Hence why a lot of good stains are not sold as fems.
I think a fem seed by selfie is called an S1 not an F1???
If you have seeds from the breeder of a CBD Blueberry that was pollinated by a CBD Blueberry then of offspring will be CBD Blueberry. Maybe not with the traits you want but its still what it is .
Once those parents are lost then you can still cross the siblings over but they wont be the original CBD Blueberry (known as the original cut) but they still will be a CBD Blueberry. Hence why placers like Wonderland nursery exist for, to keep the original cut in a different spot.
What is rife in the trade is someone else will try to recreate someone else strain. AKA Northern lights. There a ton of people who breed it but only the original breeder has the correct linage. The rest have a recreation of it and trade off its name. Unless of cause they have a cut.
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Maybe. But where's the breeding information?
Which generation of seeds?
Same parents? Or mixed?
Which are they?
Very, very few of them actually care to say.
I could think of a few reasons why.............$$$
I don't know about you. But if I'm gonna Chuck pollen. I want to know those things.
Which generation of seeds?
Same parents? Or mixed?
Which are they?
Very, very few of them actually care to say.
I could think of a few reasons why.............$$$
I don't know about you. But if I'm gonna Chuck pollen. I want to know those things.
Lucky Luke
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Nothing wrong with chucks. Heres one I grew from @eastcoastmo - Skunk x Skunk/ Shit nearing the finish.DIY stuff, most pulled in the last week, last one has another 7-10 days. I've seen worse
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Lucky Luke
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Most do say.. Look at the info on seedfinder for eg, Ask the breeder, They are usually more than happy to discus.
You missed what I was saying.
I'm not talking about the strain information, and characteristics.
Lucky Luke
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Mother pics?
Father pics?
Batch number, and generation?
Stability?
Multiple mothers and fathers?
Or are all the seeds I buy brother and sister?
Its extremely handy to know.
And if anybody knows of a seed bank that will happily,tell us these things. Please let me know.
Because ill be buying from them right away, and selecting some parent seeds.
Lucky Luke
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You have never bought seeds. Why is it handy to know for you?
I just need to know are they Fems? Stretch %? Rough flowering time? Avg Yield? How many Pheno's? Taste? Or in the case of running Eastys chucks or @bobqp chucks, what they think it may do. Its a chuck so its a lottery, it could be gold it could be crap most likely will end up better than avg. Although one of the chucks from Easty ended up being dynamite and the C99 x Lemon Skunk of Bobs I'm flowering atm looks real good. Ive takin clones off that one as its structure is real nice, easy to grow and clones easily. If its as potent as I think it will be its a keeper.
If you would like a Bodhi strain for eg, email him and ask any relevant Q you have. They will be more than happy to answer any Questions. How do you think people like Coco and Easty are so knowledgeable on strains?
Lucky Luke
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Seed bank? How would they know? Ask the breeder.
Which breeder?
I want to know.
Please.
Refer me to one. Ive been looking for ages.
I'll shoot them an email.
But i want them to be able to tell me this-
Or im not interested. Simple as that.
Lucky Luke
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The breeder of the strain you want to grow or the breeders of the strains you want to breed/chuck from. (you may need more growing space)
You really are making things more difficult than they are.
whitebb2727
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He really is.
It's not that hard to breed. It's not that hard to breed stable genetics.
Most breeders I've emailed about strains answered my questions as to lineage and such.