Second grow, White Widow X Big Bud Feminized. Hope you enjoy :D!

Clueless as to why some of my photos are not showing up, but small update and big question xD.

I believe number 1 got too much heat. The lamp was 7 inches above her, and I noticed a VERY slight color difference. A slight lighter green to her first true leaves, and here is the photo below.



Compare that photo to the seedling that is one day behind her, seems more green to me. What do you guys think?



I gave the girls a shot of new nutrients, as shown above, at 1/4 strength. I also raised the light from 7 inches to around 12 inches.

My big issue/question >.<

So, tomorrow I am going upstate to my hometown for the weekend. Visiting family and friends, as I have been at college the past three weeks. I am completely unsure what to do. You can overwater coco of course, but then again overwatering will drown such delicate seedlings. I am leaving tomorrow evening around 6pm, and will be back no later than 4pm Sunday. What do you guys think?

Well I hate to hurry and do such a short update, but its time for class. Hopefully while I'm learning, people can drop in and shed some light on this dark situation XD. I left a comment on the "Coco Growers Unite!" thread, as I did not have enough time to go through 400 pages :/.

Thanks everyone, hope to hear from you all !

-Ocho2

The different shades of green are pretty normal, its when it keep lighting to yellow is the worry. Check them before you go and when you get back. In 46 hours they won't dry out enough to hurt...rw

Nice man. im very new here, just started a grow myself. ill be following this one if i can find out how. haha if u got a second mind checking mine out too? thanks hommie P&P

roofwayne said:

The different shades of green are pretty normal, its when it keep lighting to yellow is the worry. Check them before you go and when you get back. In 46 hours they won't dry out enough to hurt...rw

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They guy at the hydro shop recommends I put 1/4 to 1/2 inch of run off underneath the buckets for the period I am gone, and it will be fine. The coco will gobble it up and carry it up to the little ones. Agree RW?

I'll probably end up raising the light a couple inches as well before I leave. Its at a foot now, but 14 or 15 inches above them is much more safe. In the end, they aren't really going to change that much while I am gone. The first leaves will be a tad bigger, and MAYBE the new set will be nearly out. But it's always better safe than sorry .

I was thinking about setting the timer up and setting it to 18/6, since 24/0 will do a lot more drying than 18/6. What do you all think?

Thanks RW, and anyone else you are more than welcome to pitch in as well. I love hearing different options and opinions ^_^.

-Ocho2

OgrAdaY said:

Nice man. im very new here, just started a grow myself. ill be following this one if i can find out how. haha if u got a second mind checking mine out too? thanks hommie P&P

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I've never followed along with a PC Box Grow, and it looks quite interesting. You plant to top, LST, and maybe supercrop as well? I'll definitely tag along . Thanks for following and joining this as well, +REP to you . Simply scroll up top, click on thread tools, and then subscribe . Thanks again ^_^

Ocho2 said:

Another Update -

So I know staring at seedlings for updates can be repetitive and lightweight spamming my journal, but that is why they call it a journal . Here is another update for all of you here, as well as all of you reading and possibly subscribing .

General Hydroponics Coco-Tek Brick is my medium, and it in fact does not need rinsed. I had a little panic earlier this morning after reading research I should have read prior to planting, but luckily I was being overly paranoid. The medium is 100% organic, and in fact does not need flushed of salts like a lot of Coco Coir out there. My worry was the fact that I did not add water to the Coco-Tek brick to expand it from a hard brick to the medium for the growing.

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^Lulz at the Cat investigating XD. Onward ^_^. Instead, the Mrs. and myself went to town on the brick. Clean hands, a lot of muscle pain, and five hours of breaking and grinding chunks apart down to the medium. Now you can in fact do this, but I do recommend just adding water..it saves A LOT of trouble. So in the end, I was lucky. Coco requires water to expand from that hard rock like brick to its medium, and since I did the hard exhausting method, there is no issue. Coco coir also typically contains a lot salt traces within it, and requires rinsed of it. And lucky for me, General Hydroponics already completed that task for me. Again, super lucky, and no issue there again. Anyone that is new to Coco, and do not know this yet, Coco is a soiless medium, and contains no nutrients. It is not a soil grow, and you cannot treat it as one as I nearly did >.<. Also, if you read that flushing daily or even weekly is required, please look up the Ask Ed's Coco guide. Rule of thumb, flushing one time a month. That is unless or course you see any plant issues or deficiencies. In that case, you may need to check your PH levels, add CAL, MAG, ect., or do a flush due to excessive nutrients.

As you may have seen previously, I was going to use Jack's classic nutrients, all purpose and blossom booster, for the grow as my last grows went perfect with it. Well, thanks to my new friends that pointed a few issues out, and sent me on a path of super 15-hour research, I definitely realized that HYDRO-FRIENDLY NUTRIENTS ARE BEST IN COCO. I purchased the nutrients you see a couple posts above this as well as below here. Cannot beat it for $19.99, as Roofwayne pointed out how they are an excellent choice, as well as the levels of the ingredients it contains. All of the water I had already made up, with the Jack's soultions, I have stored away for in the future. I added 1/4 strength to a gallon of water, filled my spray bottle up, and put it in the grow so the solution is not cold (cold will shock your plants, and can easily kill them), and ready for feeding later on .

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A slight issue I encountered/noticed..

The third plant, that I removed the seed head off of today, was most definitely taking too much heat from the light. It is in the grey bucket, and that bucket is around four or five inches taller than the other two. Luckily, it seems no damage was done, but would have if not checked on as constantly as I do. Which is really constant . I rearranged the buckets as well as tilted the fan upwards. The tallest bucket, with the third smallest baby in it, is now further away from the light. Before it was underneath it practically, thus the heat issue. It is already hard enough to arrange thee 5-Gallon bucks underneath this light without the plants tilting towards it some. Since the issue occurred, she is still getting light, just a not as extreme. She is fresh out of the seed shell I removed earlier today, and the other girls are much taller than her. Why risk a plant when rearranging will benefit the other two, as well as help a safe growth of the third. Below is a picture of what I did to the setup, what do you guys think? I believe once she is three inches tall or so, it will be much easier to not fry her. Along with that, she will most likely be behind in growth compared to the other two. Any input, advice, or thoughts ?

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Now to the update on the babies ..Due to the fact that all of these plants are WW x BB, I haven't made any nicknames for them. So here is what they shall be called, as it has been what I have used in my head and on pictures to differentiate that plants from one another..

*Number One - Popped on Easter Sunday, oldest of all of the three, as well as the biggest. Had the slight lean towards the light, as you can see in the picture, but after repositioning the buckets it has straightened once again. Interesting how half the seed is still attached . Picture is below, and she is three days old .

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*Number Two - Popped the day after Easter, second oldest, and is not far behind number one. Picture is below and she is two days old here

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*The Ugly Duckling - Popped up just barely on Tuesday, and still has the seed on it's head. The smallest and youngest of all of them. Thank you supchaka, as he encouraged me to remove that seed head. The pictures below show from when it popped and up to now. She is 1 day old ^_^.

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As for a few other last details:

Temperature and Humidity: Temperature typically at a stable 75F, and has not exceeded 77F. Humidity also is typically at a stable 37%, and does not exceed 40%. I keep proper air flow with the fan, closet door open, as well as the door of the room open. Seedling also will be strong, as the fan gives them a good wiggle ^_^.

Lighting: Still at 100W, so these girls don't fry. Eight inches above them.
I will return whenever any reply is posted, as well as a vital question for anyone here that can answer it. DUN-DUN-DUN. But..it's really important >.<. Thank you everyone, can't wait to hear back !

-Ocho2

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Why in the hell won't all of my photos show up >.<? It did this at 4:00AM, I solved it, then it repeats itself -.-...

subed, cant wait to see the final outcome

I didn't think about putting the trays under the pots, that will work great!!! Putting the timer on will save money, plants don't get 24 hours a day except in Alaska. The missing pics happen to me unless I use basic mode. Have a good visit and keep your mouth shut.lol...rw

roofwayne said:

I didn't think about putting the trays under the pots, that will work great!!! Putting the timer on will save money, plants don't get 24 hours a day except in Alaska. The missing pics happen to me unless I use basic mode. Have a good visit and keep your mouth shut.lol...rw

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Yeah. The last kid lived upstairs, and climbed in the window. Silence is absolutely a virtue ^_^. But now, no unlocked windows or anything . What would be a good thing to use for trays? Just whatever can go underneath 5-Gallon buckets?

In other news, their second growths a much more present that earlier today. I have them all a shot of non-nutrient water, as I had fed them their new nutrients yesterday morning. I had the the worst earache, and yet it still has not gone away. Probably the worst thing next to headaches XD. I think a slight shot more of nutrients now, normal water when I wake up, nutrient water when I am leaving, and normal water in whatever I figure out to put under the buckets? What do you think?

Also, how far should I have the lights above them for when I am gone?

Tomorrow I shall do a full normal update .

Thanks everyone !

-Ocho2

Something bigger around than the bucket, maybe big plate. I water my pots in a cookie sheet. Put it a little higher then usual....rw

Well good afternoon everyone . Woke up last night to discover that in that nine hours I slept, after I gave the babies their first shot of the new nutrients, they changed quite a bit .

So below here is a short update. I have to quickly cat proof the house, along with this room so she doesn't come in and NOMNOM on the girls. She was eating my girlfriends flowers, so every time she came in here I gave her a good spray with the spray bottle I use XD. She has yet to come back in, but better safe than sorry ^_^.

Here is number one. Her next set of leaves are coming in quickly, and her first true leaves grew quite a bit ^_^.



Number two is right behind number one .



Even though number three was behind, she is growing very efficiently with the others .



So my plan is to make some ghetto trays to put the buckets on. Aluminum foil trays would probably work, just raise the sides as if it was a cookie sheet. I figure a shot of normal water before I leave, and a VERY dilluted nutrient solution in the tray, will be good for them until Sunday. The solution I have mixed up is at 1/4 strength, and I will add normal water to it to make it around 1/8 strength.

I am still deciding if I should keep the fan in the grow, or put it by the doorway to shoot some cooler air in here. With the fan inside, and the barricade I have setup for the cat, It is a stable 77 F and 40% humidity. When I had the fan blowing in from the hall before, it stayed at a stable 75F and at 38% humidity. I figure if the fan is in the grow, the Coco will dry out quicker than if it was in the hallway. Also the light is still set at 24/0, and is at 12 inches above them. Since their next leaves will be in when I return, it would probably be best to raise the light two more inches so no burn occurs.

Hopefully someone will see this before I head out in two hours so I can see what you think . I will still be on while away, just will not be able to do any updates XD.

Thanks everyone ^_^!

-Ocho2

Youre going to need trays eventually so may as well get real ones. Coco needs to be watered to waste, gets alot more runoff than growing in soil.

supchaka said:

Youre going to need trays eventually so may as well get real ones. Coco needs to be watered to waste, gets alot more runoff than growing in soil.

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I just went to the store. I picked up 3 cat litter boxes, which fits every bucket. About what level of water should be in it? 1/4inch or 1/2inch?

Whatever you put in the tray is most likely going to wick into the pot within minutes soooo with that said Id guess however little as possible.

hopefully they stay healthy while u r away, when do u return i may have missed that haha vaping some jack herre for tomorrows rememberence

Well Hello to everyone, and it feels great to be back. Not only that, but even better to be reunited with my 100% perfect healthy girls. Here is an update for all of you .

I noticed that from putting water in the trays, whatever random non-broken up pieces of Coco must have poofed up a bit due to the soil level was higher than when I left. Other than that, the temperature remained at 73F, and 38% humidity.

Here is number one . Officially one week old ^_^.



Number two, at 6 days old .



And number three, the youngest and slowest. Still very healthy !



So what do you all think so far? Not bad for the first week? My next question is at what point in time should I increase the watt's of my lamp. It is currently set to 100 watts for its output, and is ten inches above the seedlings. Funny thing is that it was around 13 inches when I left, but it is still good at this height. I just don't want to torch the little girls, you know? I can increase it to 250 watts, and 400 watts. I know it is still too early for 400 watts, but what is your guys' thoughts?

Also, my order from Attitude will be here tomorrow at 10:00am. Though I still have one white widow x big bud, and one green bud both feminized, I have the order below coming tomorrow with a crush proof tin and a coffee mug ..

- x4 Feminized Bubblegummer
- x4 Feminized Pure AK
- x1 Feminized Critical Mass 33 (Freebie)
- x1 Feminized Jamaican Dream (Eva Seeds Freebie)
- x1 Feminized Monster (Eva Seeds Freebie)
- x1 Feminized TNT Kush (Eva Seeds Freebie)
- x1 Feminized Blue Lemon Thai (Eva Seeds Freebie)

Hope to hear from you all, thank you so much for all of your input and tagging along. Can't wait to chat with you all again, as well as your thoughts and input !

WOOPWOOP

-Ocho2

Crank that bitch up to 400 and put it around 2'!

What about the fact that they are still small seedlings? And the fact that they will stretch horrifically..? I dont want them to burn either>.<

I run 12/12 from seed. My babies start their first days under a 600 watt. Granted its a good 2-3' when theyre brand new but I had it within 18" in just a couple days.

you could really run your light at whatever watt u want, i would think they would get better results from the 250 or 400 but who knows how they will react, just make sure not to burn those babies, your little trees r looking great man and that order from the tude sounds legit, how soon will those be potted up?