lowrider2000
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thats what ima do with my AK-48 ima just clone the fuck out of them and store the extra seeds......
Seed Companies Are Way Greedy, Dudes.
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guy incognito
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I got AK48 going too. Also some PPP. I only started 1 seed of each. I'm gonna sprout the rest though just to see if I get a different phenotype. I just put my first AK48 and PPP under my 400 watt hps a couple days ago.
StonedPony
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Pot is AGAISNT THE LAW in the USA period................they take great risk selling them.............whats that Canadians Name Mar Emorry or something....donig 5 years in USA for selling seeds from canada to USA..............you bet the prices are high..........and that dont include the hard work to breed seeds and make good quaility....................buy a few seeds for 200 bucks and never buy again..................fuck sounds like a deal to me.................
Howard Stern
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Seed companies are not ripoff artists! Only if they sell you beans that are not what they say the are! Think about it for a second, on bean $10 grow her out and if you can get two oz off her street value is $300 an oz so you turn $10 into $600 less grow costs and that is about $50 per plant. So if you can find me an investment that with a little work you can turn $60 into $600 in a matter of 4 months? Let me know I will invest all day long!
Or if you take two clones each time before you throw her into flower you will end up getting around 7 off one bean, if you clone it twice and you take $600 times 7 you are looking at $4200 off one $10 bean. If you don't like the prices make your own or go buy clones.
Or if you take two clones each time before you throw her into flower you will end up getting around 7 off one bean, if you clone it twice and you take $600 times 7 you are looking at $4200 off one $10 bean. If you don't like the prices make your own or go buy clones.
LaKapitone
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Ouch! Another great point.
LaKapitone
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Agreed. Although I wasn't the one that said taxes are what makes cigarettes high in price, that was some other chick. When I go into a store & see cigarettes over $5.00 a pack, with or without tax, I know that is a ripoff waiting to happen. Maybe too me it is at least because I don't smoke, I guess to a smoker, who feels they need it, it's a killer deal? Who knows... let's stay on the topic of the seed companies though now that I got that chick off my back, we can focus on that, huh?
Like I said, I don't think this is even a debate... the best point so far is you can turn a $10 seed into $600+... enough said in my opinion.
guy incognito
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I believe the state and federal taxes are rolled into cigarettes shelf price. You don't see a base price before state and federal taxes, you just see the total price.
And saying you can turn a seed into profit missed the point I think. You can buy overpriced paint and turn it into a piece of art that gives you a 10X return on your investment. That doesn't mean the paint company that originally sold you the paint didn't gouge you.
And saying you can turn a seed into profit missed the point I think. You can buy overpriced paint and turn it into a piece of art that gives you a 10X return on your investment. That doesn't mean the paint company that originally sold you the paint didn't gouge you.
LaKapitone
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She's back... how did I not see that one coming! Jesus, I been here a week & I've already been followed by 2 ignored users... I don't know whether to feel special or stalked? What part of [ignored] is hard to comprehend? Hopefully she at least posted about the seed company & got off the cigarette/tax B.S. - but, we probably can't be so lucky. Anyways, don't know if there is much to be said on this thread anymore, many good points made both ways.
Good thread nonetheless. Interesting debate.
Good thread nonetheless. Interesting debate.
guy incognito
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Howard Stern
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I see what your saying but I don't agree with it! You can buy the good paint and sell your painting for 10X or you can buy finger paint and put it up on the fridge for free! There are so many different breeders out there from Nirvana-cheapest to some of the Doggies nuts on attitude- highest priced. Lots of shit out there to chose from and my biggest point is that everyone wants to bitch and moan! Making seeds cost allot of fucking money and these people are in the business to make money, not give out shit for free. There is a free market out there with competition so that should keep the prices managable.
Complaining about the price of a Ferrari saying it isn't worth that much cus you can't afford it doesn't mean it is a ripoff or they are gouging you. They offer a product for a price and the "customers" US will let them know by buying their beans or not. Some people just need to be told that the price is what it is and if you don't think it's fair don't buy it! It's a little thing in life called tough shit! It would be different if there was only one place to but seeds but there are tons! Get over it or learn to make your own! IMHO.
Not trying to flame you at all incognito! Just tired of people crying about beans that are $10! It is so simple, if you want that strain the buy it if you can't afford it get a better job or learn how to grow so you will have the money. Nirvana beans are around $40 usd for 5 fem beans, doggies nuts are like $200! guess what I don't buy the $200 dollar ones cus I don't think they are worth it! I don't sit around crying how unfair the world is cus I can't afford doggies beans!
justlearning73
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I don't think people are taking into account how much money goes into R&D (research and development) It can take years to get a stable, viable strain. So it can be years that a company has no revenue coming in. Yet they are still paying their employees. The companies have to recoup that cost. Then you take into account the fact that this trade is illegal the world over. Yes even in Holland. Most legit company provide guaranteed shipping, think about how much they lose there too. Yeah it is expensive, but that is the nature of the beast. There is a way around buy you swag and use the seeds to grow your own. I know of many people that are doing this. Male plants are not always bad.
StonedPony
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I love the news
Howard Stern
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You know what I think ipod's and iphones are to expensive too! I want one for $5.00! LOL
LaKapitone
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I don't think I was suppose to see that quote, lol... how did I know she went back to the cigarette/tax discussion? Call me MR. CLEO!
Howard Stern is a smart dude... from what you have said, I can see his followers are as well. Well put.
That was my point exactly. What company doesn't inflate prices by a shit load? If your against one, you got to be against them all. IT'S BUSINESS!
StonedPony
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I hear ya. I wish the crack whores only charged 2bucks for a blow job.........and deliver to house.
Howard Stern
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Yeah your right! Lets go give those crack whores some hell! And if you catch aids from one it should only be $1! LOL
Shmulster
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hey im a first time grower right now but ive been around many sites and i have to tell you man i was actually pretty surprised, in a good way, about the price. It might not be big and shiny, but these little guys sometimes have years of cross breeding and development behind them, and going through nirvanas catalog (yeah yeah i know a lot of people hate nirvana) i was actually shocked that for 25-30 Euros i can get top notch weed going on in my closet... ofcourse you have the popular strains and like any company i know, the first thing in their mind is how much money can be made through it, and dont tell me the sweet lady in the corner shop next to your house is just there to make people smile... with internet competition and the history of these shops indicating their time on this earth is limited, i think that just gets more greed up to their heads.... i know if i would open a business the plan would be to never work again for other people - just make the money and run. now im not saying this is moral in any way, but its the way of the world really...
LaKapitone
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Nirvana is the shit dude. An it is the way of the world... whether people like it or not... nothing is ever going to be 100% 'fair' - that just isn't how things work. Never have, never will... history shows it & the future will be no different from the path being led.
Why do you always have something fucking stupid to say, but so smart at the same time? Lol... your oxymoron's are the best!
this guy thinks that developing these strands of weed was easy.
the super potent bud we have now was produced by having a single strong marijuana plant, cloning it 20 times. the single strongest one, was cloned 20 more times. the single strongest one out of that one, cloned again... and again, and again... and again..... and again......
it took time, money and risk (marijuana was illegal in practically every country when this genetic engineering began).... some of these companies take care to keep hermies out, take the time to determine the stability of genes...... it was a lot of work, a lot of it done illegally, so we could enjoy the high quality smoke we have now... stop the bitchin....
the super potent bud we have now was produced by having a single strong marijuana plant, cloning it 20 times. the single strongest one, was cloned 20 more times. the single strongest one out of that one, cloned again... and again, and again... and again..... and again......
it took time, money and risk (marijuana was illegal in practically every country when this genetic engineering began).... some of these companies take care to keep hermies out, take the time to determine the stability of genes...... it was a lot of work, a lot of it done illegally, so we could enjoy the high quality smoke we have now... stop the bitchin....
Howard Stern
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I think this explains it all. To anyone that wants to bitch about the price of seeds.
