Seeking an honest grower with morals

I am a 43 year old disabled vet from desert storm, I have payed my dues many times over, not looking for some grower that treats their patients like they think they are some doctor or something.

I suffer from nerve damage, I smoke in excess of 3 ounces a month to control the pain and release the tension my body normally carries.

I am on SSD, I cant afford all this bullcrap prices you greedy people charge, i am not interested in a grower who thinks they dont need to work for a living, and can sit at home, and sell the patients medication on the black market to pay their bills.

I have been a OMMP patient for 3 years, its been the same from day 1, so far not a single grower i have found does things the right way, OMMP is for people like myself, who are done taking opiates and the 500 other pills they shove down your gullet while trying to tell you it will make you better, it does not.

There has to be a grower out there, that suffers from compassion and honesty, and has a moral base, I know people like that are getting harder and harder to find, but one of you has to be hiding out there.

The deal is this, Whatever deal we make, I will follow period, I never fail on my end, if i give my word, it means something, I dont just speak because i like the sound of my voice.

I fought a war for the US, its not my fault i wash bullshitted and brainwashed into believing that we were doing something good, when really it was to make rich people richer, I did not back out, I gave my word to fight, and i fought, and now i get to live in poverty and be abused by you growers for the rest of my life, nice huh ?

I apologize that this sounds really bitter, I just want some peace in whats left of my broken down life, a little honesty and caring wouldn't be bad here and there either.

1/4 lb a month is more than a lot of gardeners produce on a normal basis.

Yes sir, I realize this, but my only other option is to go back on the pills, which means gaining weight again, which causes me many problems as i feel each pound i gain, which means they have to increase the morphine etc etc, its just a vicious circle.

So I have to find a way out of it, and unfortunately it takes a good deal of meds, cant get around that.

Are you unable to grow your own? you may want to consider concentrates as a substitute and find a grower that is willing to part with his trim for a reduced price.

You understand that no matter what, whoever it is... there is a bottom line.

The amount of meds you ask for is a lot, is there a family member that might help you grow your own?

I am a disabled vet too, I understand. that is what drove me to growing my own, getting the meds that work for me consistently. I also grow for my mother who is a high demand cancer patient, best bet for a reliable source isn't to look for random people on the net.

Medicine Man is a Vet operated MMJ collective in downtown Portland, you may have better luck with finding a grower that would suit your needs there or at a Mama's (or something similar) meeting.

I attempted to grow my own, and i hate to admit this, but its the truth, i deal with such bad depression, that at times i don't even care to take care of me, so pretty much any plant i own dies, i dont even have pets any longer, as for a family member, heh i wish, no, its just me, the thing is, way too many people try to pull the wool over my eyes, and I am anything but stupid, just wish i could find a grower who would work with me, and tell me the truth.

I do pay my grower a monthly fee of $300 as it is, I just need a little more than he gives, and alot more honesty.

yea, $300 a month is more than a patient with your needs should be paying. Come this fall you should really consider trying to find a outdoor grower that is willing to part with some quality trim for free or next to nothing and make yourself some hash.

I make dry ice hash to add to my meds and I also make bubble for a more pure application.

I get the depression too, I feel you. but I find that my anxiety and hyper-vigilance keeps me watching over everything (often far too much).

Again, try a meeting... I think it is by far your best bet. face to face meetings are required for these kind of things. I would be suspicious of anyone that would be willing to just do this for a random guy on RIU, lol.

I think most of the "volume" growers here would be happy to help you out IF WE PERSONALLY KNEW YOU. But since we don't, most will avoid the risks because we've all heard/read or experienced the horror stories. It's not that we don't care or don't want to help (and feel bad for your situation), it's about not wanting to take a risk for low or minimal returns (or any risk for that matter). Personally, I make it a point to make sure a good portion of each crop goes to my sick/handicapped friends and acquaintances. My regulars include a brother-in-law with MS, a quadriplegic friend I've known for 35 years, a few cancer patients, and friends who suffer with sleep disorders, back and leg problems, depression, etc. Some get it for free, others pay a nominal fee to help offset my ridiculous electric bills. I'd like to suggest a forum taking a different approach. Try asking for help and suggestions from the community in a more positive manner, and I think you'll get some great ideas and suggestions, and maybe a contact or two...... good luck with it all.

Thankyou for replying with suggestions, I have tried the above ways, and I am too trusting, in addition i suffer from ptsd, so there are simply some personalities, that i will never get along with, so adding all this up, i end up being being fooled, every-time, I want so much to be working with someone, who is working with me to make my life better, and all i end up with, is working with someone to make their life better, and i generally get the shaft, I currently live in Dorena Oregon, and of course i have no transportation now, as i got rid of it because way too many people abused it, and I, wanting to "Fit In" allowed it, I may be able to work a ride out to get into town, but at the moment, I am pretty messed up, I dont think i can handle public for a bit, but, like i stated above, if someone is willing to work with me, I'll figure out a way to make it happen.

And thank you guys for the lack of flames, i expected some and got none, thankyou very much.

I'm definitely empathetic to your plight. Vets deserve better services and respect. I wish I could help but I just don't have the space.

Someone should put together a coop specifically for vets only.

Good luck out there and don't give up man.

Thankyou guys again for being so positive, its something i have an issue with as well, If anyone knows a way for me to meet people, but still retain my comfort bubble please let me know (I apologize if this is too much to ask), but any ideas would be very welcome.

Also, even if a grower is not able to help me, if there is someone who might have some time to listen and offer advice, it would help greatly (About personal stuff i need help with, not about meds)

vote yes on 80 and then you may b in luck

I'm sorry, i just need to vent a little, grower pulling his crap again, What gets me is he always talks about how I am his patient, and he thinks of me and will take care of me, but today is the third, same day i get meds every month, I even called him last night to let him know i would be calling him this morning to set up a way to meet him halfway to save him gas, and .... he sleeps in till past noon lol, if he really thought about his patient and not just himself, on the 1 day a month we meet to do this, he would wake his arse up before noon.

So now, because he slept in , on this day, I have no way to meet him, people don't just sit around and stop their day waiting on 1 person to do what they say they will do, when they realise that person is full of crap, they go on about their day, so fed up with being treated like this.

Yeah, you need to read an entire conversation before you respond, if you had, you would know i pay 300 a month, like clockwork, no bullcrap, and i buy lights here and there when able.

I stand by my deal with my grower and then some.

Eh sorry My PTSD is forcing me to answer this last guys post in detail as it contains numerous reasons why i believe growers should have a much more stringent application process before they are allowed to grow for patients.

I have to say the post by payformeds pretty much summed up the idiocy we patients have to deal with.

Or are you one of those that wants the grower to grow for you for FREE and then brake the law and sale the back end so you can have free meds?

Well, lets see, you guys "brake" the law anyhow and sell on the black market, i have not met 1 single grower in 3 years that does not.Free ? lol seriously, you guys are allowed to grow marijuana because of us, otherwise you would just be doing it illegally, like you did before.

I would never grow for peoploe like you and most GOOD growers never will.

So, you dont want a patient that stand's by his word ?

You probably wouldn't know how to handle a truly honest person, and in addition, you strike me as the type of grower that thinks they should be allowed to sell the patients back their meds at black market prices.

Your out for yourself, just admit it, people think they can act like the huge pharmaceutical companies, and keep raising the prices of medication sick people need, just to feel normal, you give no thought at all to the fact, that the majority of us patients, have already payed tons of dues in life, and because of it, alot of us have a difficult time, just fitting in, and now we finally are offered a way to try and feel normal, without all the bullcrap of the pharmaceutical companies, and without having to take medication X, to counteract the side effects of medication Y.

But your blind to this i am sure, its all about the money to you, and how you can benefit from the sick, disabled and elderly, this is why i cant handle people, they act right until money is involved, then they would sell their own mother, just for material gain.

I wouldn't allow you to grow for me sir, i need a better class of people, but thanks for your opinion.

Yeah dude, your not even an adult.

payformeds said:

ANY ONE WANT TO GROW FOR THIS GUY?????....LOL...Hey dork you seem to forget..I DONT NEED ANY THING FROM YOU..YOU NEED SOME THING FROM ME.Try not being such a ass and maybe some one will grow for you and get you your meds...hell i would rip off a noob like you just to show you how much of a nothing you are...l love signing up dorks like you only to take all you're meds...you see i can do that and not a damn thing you can do about it..can you!..The ghrowers run this not you..if you dont like it..GROW YOUR OWN!

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Jeff is that you?

good luck man. like people have mentioned on here before, we understand anxiety and its even increased when adding in a federal restricted element, but it IS much easier to meet with likeminded people by going out to meet them (i.e. compassion centers, clone shops, etc.) and get connected to a trust worthy grower who can grow something decent and specific for your needs, so you WOULDNT require such an amount. i don't know a single person who can smoke 3zips in 30 days of what i see grown in oregon we know our shit! and most of us dont mind doing the work, (yea it really takes more then flipping a switch and pouring some water) so go out, find someone who will make some foods or hashes or oils or tincures so you have a back supply and you arent waiting on marijunana like its dope or somthing, and stop endorsing criminal behavior by allowing someone you know is selling it to continue....it may be uncomfortable but im sure so is being out and dont just go with the first grower to offer service, shop around, its easy to get stuck with a bad grower/patient for several months...longer even.

edited cause i just forgot words...wonder how that happened