Senate committee backs amendment giving provinces power to ban home-grown pot

VIANARCHRIS

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OTTAWA — A Senate committee has passed more than two dozen amendments to the federal government's cannabis legalization bill, including one that would allow provinces and territories to ban home-grown marijuana.

But the social affairs committee has refused to accept an amendment that would have prohibited home cultivation outright.

Bill C-45 would allow individuals to grow up to five plants in a single dwelling.

But Quebec and Manitoba have decided to prohibit home cultivation, setting up future legal challenges in which Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould has said the federal legislation would prevail.

The Senate committee, which was conducting a clause-by-clause examination of the bill Monday, unanimously supported an amendment specifying that provincial and territorial governments have the authority to prohibit home-grown pot if they so choose.

Among committee members supporting the amendment was Independent Sen. Tony Dean, the sponsor of the C-45 in the Senate. That suggests the amendment has the government's blessing.

However, the committee rejected, by a vote of 7-5, another amendment proposed by Conservative Sen. Judith Seidman that would have imposed a blanket prohibition on home growing across the country.

Among the other amendments passed, the committee agreed that regulations flowing from the legislation must impose a maximum potency limit on cannabis products.

It also agreed that the House of Commons and Senate should be given 30 days to review regulations before they're implemented and that anyone fined for violating the law should have up to 60 days to pay, rather than the original bill's stipulation of 30 days.

As well, the committee passed an amendment specifying that a permanent resident who is sentenced to six months or less for breaking the law would not face an additional penalty of being found inadmissable to Canada and deported.

Most of the other amendments were technical in nature. Dean, the bill's sponsor, proposed 29 amendments.

Just prior to the committee beginning its clause-by-clause examination, Toronto Liberal MP Bill Blair, the government's point man on cannabis legalization, told senators that Bill C-45 is comprehensive, "thoughtfully designed" legislation that strikes a careful balance among diverse perspectives.

But Conservative Sen. Carolyn Stewart Olsen questioned that assertion, given the number of amendments proposed by Dean to correct "flaws" in the drafting of the bill.

"I don't see that that is thoughtful or well designed," she said.

Stewart Olsen also took issue with Blair's contention that legalization is going to be an evolving process, requiring ongoing monitoring, consultations and modifications to adapt to changed or unforeseen circumstances.

"Do you really think that an ongoing or a work in progress is applicable in this area of extreme social change for the country? ... I would have thought, if you were going to do this, you would have monitored, you would have done your studies, you would have done all of this groundwork before bringing in the legislation."

Joan Bryden , The Canadian Press
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Bill C-45 would allow individuals to grow up to five plants in a single dwelling.
Since when? When did it change from 4?
Allowing Manitoba and Quebec to ban grows will only help the black market in Ontario, Saskatchewan and Alberta. It's legal to grow in all those provinces, it's legal to transport across provincial boundaries in 30g quantities and it's legal to share the same amount.
 

bigmanc

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end of med program due to no medical value, pushed to rec program. Grey market eliminated, price rises.

Starting to miss Harper.
 

gb123

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the saying SAY NOTHING, NEVER TELL HOLD TRUE TODAY
Now even for medical purposes...
right back to square one! :hump:
 

bigmanc

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what a mess, LP don’t want outdoor. Governments and everyone with a say doesn’t want growing. At the end of the day, they want to maintain 10$+ a gram and everyone with a plant is competition
 

VIANARCHRIS

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end of med program due to no medical value, pushed to rec program. Grey market eliminated, price rises.

Starting to miss Harper.
Huh? There is mountains of scientific evidence supporting the medicinal benefits of cannabis and it is increasingly becoming a mainstream medicine. Insurance companies are offering coverage the same as pharmaceuticals. Medical isn't going anywhere and I haven't heard anyone suggest it will. Eliminating the grey market will just increase the bm.
 

Flash63

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end of med program due to no medical value, pushed to rec program. Grey market eliminated, price rises.

Starting to miss Harper.
Missing Harper?The guy that tried to take our gardens away in the first place?He’s the sole reason an injunction was granted.The medical program is here to stay and only getting bigger,and as far as I can see the price of weed has dropped in half since the early 90s here in Ontario.
 

gb123

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lol back to court we all go!! lol

Senate committee supports amending cannabis bill to let provinces ban homegrown pot

And it defeated another that would have indefinitely delayed implementation of the legislation until the government reports to both houses of Parliament on the measures it’s taking to deal with the concerns of Indigenous communities.

The vast majority of the amendments approved were largely technical in nature and would have little affect on the substance of Bill C-45. Indeed, 29 of them were proposed by the sponsor of the bill in the Senate, independent Sen. Tony Dean, which suggests they have the blessing of the government.

The committee’s amended version of the bill will now go back to the Senate as a whole, where senators will decide whether to accept or reject the amendments or propose additional changes.

The various factions in the Senate have agreed to hold a final vote on the bill by June 7, which would allow the Trudeau government to deliver on its promise to have the legal recreational cannabis regime up and running by late summer.

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Under C-45, individuals would be allowed to grow up to five plants in a single dwelling.

But Quebec and Manitoba have decided to prohibit home cultivation, setting up future legal challenges in which Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould has said the federal legislation would prevail.

The Senate committee, which conducted a clause-by-clause examination of the bill Monday, unanimously supported an amendment specifying that provincial and territorial governments have the authority to prohibit homegrown pot if they so choose. Dean was among those supporting the amendment, again suggesting the government is willing to go along with the change.

However, the committee rejected, by a vote of 7-5, another amendment proposed by Conservative Sen. Judith Seidman that would have imposed a blanket prohibition on home growing across the country.

It similarly rejected an amendment proposed by Conservative Sen. Dennis Patterson, which would have delayed implementation of the bill until the government reports to the House of Commons and the Senate on what it’s doing to address the concerns of Indigenous communities.

None of the independent or independent Liberal senators on the committee supported either of those two Conservative amendments, which could bode well for the government in ensuring the bill is ultimately passed by the Senate. The 32 Conservative senators have voted as a block against the bill at every opportunity so far but they’d need at least 15 other senators to join them on the final vote to defeat or delay it.

Patterson made an impassioned plea for delaying implementation, arguing that the government’s consultation with Indigenous people thus far has been “abysmal.” Moreover, First Nations governments will bear the impact of legalization on health, social and policing services, but he noted they have not so far been offered a share of the federal excise tax on cannabis to cover those costs.

“This is a terribly vulnerable population,” he told the committee, noting that Indigenous communities are already struggling with severe alcohol and drug abuse problems, mental health issues and a suicide epidemic — all of which he suggested will get worse if cannabis is readily and legally available.

Patterson’s amendment did not go quite as far as the Senate’s Aboriginal people’s committee, which had recommended a delay of up to a year to enable more consultation with Indigenous communities. He put no timeline on his proposal for a government report on how it’s addressing Aboriginal concerns and argued that the government could pull one together within a month if it wanted.

Independent Sen. Marc Gold said no one disagrees with the challenges facing Indigenous communities, but said he’s encouraged that the government is already taking steps to address them. Indigenous people are overrepresented in the criminal justice systems and delaying implementation of a legalized cannabis regime will only exacerbate the problem, he argued.

Liberal MP Bill Blair, the government’s point man on cannabis legalization, told the committee just prior to its clause-by-clause examination of the bill that some Indigenous communities want to get involved in the lucrative business of producing legal marijuana and the government has developed a guide to help them navigate the licensing process.

The government has also provided funding for culturally appropriate public education about the risks of using cannabis and for improved delivery of addiction, prevention and treatment services in Indigenous communities, he said.

Blair also told committee members that Bill C-45 is comprehensive, “thoughtfully designed” legislation that strikes a careful balance among diverse perspectives.

But Conservative Sen. Carolyn Stewart Olsen questioned that assertion, given the number of amendments proposed by Dean to correct “flaws” in the drafting of the bill.

“I don’t see that that is thoughtful or well designed,” she said.

Other amendments passed by the committee include those that would:



  • Require regulations that flow from the legislation to impose a maximum potency limit on cannabis products.




  • Give the House of Commons and Senate 30 days to review regulations before they’re implemented.




  • Specifying that a permanent resident who is sentenced to six months or less for breaking the cannabis law would not face an additional penalty of being found inadmissible to Canada and deported.
 

bigmanc

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Ah, bill c-45...the bill that amends the CDSA in regards to cannabis. It does involve medical patients, jeez dont believe me look it up. Now unfortunately Manitoba and Quebec’s home grow just turned into a flat no for home grow.

The funnel is gaining momentum.
 

torontomeds

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Ah, bill c-45...the bill that amends the CDSA in regards to cannabis. It does involve medical patients, jeez dont believe me look it up. Now unfortunately Manitoba and Quebec’s home grow just turned into a flat no for home grow.

The funnel is gaining momentum.
How about just posting a link. Who the fuck has time to look it up. Bottom line this industry is built on Medical,and bottom line if it has no Med value then why does my family Dr sign my papers in the first place.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Ah, bill c-45...the bill that amends the CDSA in regards to cannabis. It does involve medical patients, jeez dont believe me look it up. Now unfortunately Manitoba and Quebec’s home grow just turned into a flat no for home grow.

The funnel is gaining momentum.
Don't need to. The medical system goes untouched with the implementation of rec. Government cannot simply pass a bill to reverse court decisions. Manitoba and Quebec have no jurisdiction on medical grows so they will continue. But just to save an argument....https://lop.parl.ca/Content/LOP/LegislativeSummaries/42/1/c45-e.pdf

or this:
https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/campaigns/introduction-cannabis-act-questions-answers.html#a5
Q17. Will a separate medical cannabis system continue to exist under legalization?

Yes, as recommended by the Task Force, the cannabis for medical purposes regime will continue to exist to provide access to individuals who have the authorization of their healthcare practitioner to use cannabis for medical purposes. The Task Force also recommended that the Government monitor and evaluate patients' reasonable access to cannabis for medical purposes during the implementation of the new law, and then evaluate the medical access framework within five years of implementation of the law, which the Government intends to do.
 

bigmanc

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Hahahahaha who’s funding this court battle? Let me know which one of yas is gots the balls and a mil$ sitting around
 

gb123

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Hahahahaha who’s funding this court battle? Let me know which one of yas is gots the balls and a mil$ sitting around
they would only get another swift kick in the nuts tryin to off medical once again!
It wold only get worse for them with Rec ....which will be the next fight saying, no harm no foul!!:hump:
They dont want to start this fight..or else!! 8-) More truth will come out about their shit they pulled and it will show
they dont want a fight but theyre gonna get one weather they like it or not,,
soon come
:blsmoke:
 
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