Sexing Seeds?

Does the crater on the bottom of the seed indicate sex?


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So i recently watched a youtube video where a guy was saying that he has had nearly 100% success on sexing a cannabis seed. He says at the bottom of the seed you can see a little crater and if it a good full crater, it is a female, and if the crater is deformed, it will be a male.

What do you guys think about this? Ill try to find the video again and post it on here but i am just curious to see if any of you fellow growers out there have even heard of this tech.bongsmilie:?:
 

qwizoking

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Cannabis seeds like many plants do not have a predetermined sex, unlike humans and most mammals most plants don't operate on our xy chromosomal determination system , its largely dominated by environmental factors in the first couple weeks of life..

I've had ~96% females out of.. Easily 300 plants
 

racerboy71

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Cannabis seeds like many plants do not have a predetermined sex, unlike humans and most mammals most plants don't operate on our xy chromosomal determination system , its largely dominated by environmental factors in the first couple weeks of life..

I've had ~96% females out of.. Easily 300 plants
thanks qwizo, i just said basically the same thing in another thread..
 

qwizoking

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No. About 30 different strains in total. Most my own creation. Many mexi brick.. I'll give details in a few hours

But yes, varied bean stock.. Non fem.. I've also reversed this to produce males for breeding
 
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qwizoking

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Many commonly mistake feminized seeds as meaning predetermined sex as with mammals...........
"68] Soon thereafter, Schaffner disputed Hirata's interpretation, [69] and published results from his own studies of sex reversal in hemp, concluding that an X:A system was in use and that furthermore sex was strongly influenced by environmental factors [66]" environmental sex determination is known to occur in many species. [79] Many researchers have suggested that sex inCannabis is determined or strongly influenced by environmental factors. [66] Ainsworth reviews that treatment with auxin and ethylene have feminizing effects, and that treatment with cytokinins and gibberellins have masculinizing effects. [60] It has been reported that sex can be reversed in Cannabis using chemical treatment. [80] A PCR-based method for the detection of female-associated DNA polymorphisms by genotyping has been developed.

Can I spray a hormone on yiu and turn yiu into a male? Or female? No not at all.... The fact that we can do this was the first bit of proof of the x:a system in cannabis

"1. Level of nitrogen and potassium of the seedbed: A heightening of the standard level of nitrogen makes for more female cannabis plants originating from the weed seeds. A lowering of the nitrogen level shows more male cannabis plants. A heightening of the level of potassium tends to show more male marijuana plants, while a lowering of the potassium level shows more female marijuanaplants. A combination of a higher nitrogen level for the period of a week or two and a lowering of the potassium level is recommended.
2. Humidity and moistness of the seedbed: a higher humidity makes for an increase in the number of female cannabis plants from weed seed, a lowering for an increase in male cannabis plants. The same is valid for the moistness of the seedbed.
3. Level of temperatures: lower temperatures make for a larger number of female marijuana plants, higher temperatures for more male marijuana plants.
4. Colour of light: more blue light makes for female cannabis plants from seed, more red light makes for more male cannabis plants.
5. Hours of daylight: few hours of daylight (e.g. 14 hours) makes for more female individuals, a long day (e.g. 18 hours) makes for more male cannabis plants."



I veg and flower under hps..color of light isn't as big a factor...neither is daylight hrs in my opinion, I run 24/0 in my veg room and immediately throw in the 12/12 flower room...

Heat humidity then nutes in that order imo
... Iwould run 20/4 if I could, my plants prefer it....just not as easy
My ratios will be cut to bout 80% just by having temps bout 75......so to germ effectively I keep temps about 80. Once they pop the surface Itake it down to high 60's low 70's for 2-3weeks. This marker has been observed by myself and others as when sexing takes hold in the plant and it will take on a lanky male appearance

With that said I veg 24/0 and just throw into 12/12..I don't believe given everything else is on point, that lighting is a significant factor in sexing.. but I have noticed a higher female count with plants receiving less light, specifically the intensity of light/saturation and not necessarily the time received


It took nearly a year to get my ratio from ~93 to ~96% I believe a solid 98-99% females is possible. I've certainly had it happen but not I'm not consistent enough
 

undead

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Cannabis seeds like many plants do not have a predetermined sex, unlike humans and most mammals most plants don't operate on our xy chromosomal determination system , its largely dominated by environmental factors in the first couple weeks of life..

I've had ~96% females out of.. Easily 300 plants
Many plants, especially fruiting plants, do in fact contain sex chromosomes. They often are affected by hormonal changes as well. I've yet to see an actual scientific, peer reviewed study done on cannabis sexing, but this link is very detailed in regards to fruiting plants

http://m.plantcell.org/content/16/suppl_1/S61.full

Because of the possibility that hormonal changes can affect sex, sexing based on a seed's appearance is unreliable.
 

Sativied

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Many plants, especially fruiting plants, do in fact contain sex chromosomes. They often are affected by hormonal changes as well. I've yet to see an actual scientific, peer reviewed study done on cannabis sexing, [....]
Because of the possibility that hormonal changes can affect sex, sexing based on a seed's appearance is unreliable.
And the environment can affect hormonal changes...

There's the sex genotype, i.e. the genetic makeup XX vs XY and the sex phenotype (phenotype is essentially genotype+environment)

"Cannabis sativa L. is a dioecious species with sexual dimorphism occurring in a late stage of plant development. Sex is determined by heteromorphic chromosomes (X and Y): male is the heterogametic sex (XY) and female is the homogametic one (XX). The sexual phenotype of Cannabis often shows some flexibility...."

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10681-004-4758-7

This flexibility and the sex genes in the seed not being a guarantee is also why a cannabis gender test (which some labs offer) is performed on plants that have a handful of nodes already. Before that it's not certain of it sexual expression yet.
 
tried this method and started 10 and 8 were female, I just took a magnifying glass and checked for the “perfect” volcanoes... maybe the 2 males weren’t perfect, idk at this point, but it gave me 8 females. So even if it’s not 100% if you have a bunch of seeds from breeding, you may as well try this method, and then you can always give away your “imperfect” ones to friends. Just my opinion... it’s better than randomly starting seeds at a 50/50 chance.. or as someone else will say “buy fem” and spend twice as much... nty, I’ll actually try the first time for a male and female, breed and get 100+ seeds, then go for a sinsemilla crop.
 
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